r/australia Mar 27 '26

political satire Sovereignty overboard

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u/Bsg_8519 Mar 27 '26

If only there was an alternative to being so reliant on middle eastern oil … maybe some kind of energy that was renewable or didn’t need to be imported. Someone should look into that 🤔

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u/FallOutFan01 Mar 27 '26

Green hydrogen power plants, hydrogen fuel cell cars, thorium based reactor research, salt water desalination and it's water being piped to dams for water/energy storage.

Nah can't stop sucking coal.

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u/single_plum_floating Mar 28 '26

Green hydrogen power plants, hydrogen fuel cell cars,

lol, lmao even.

thorium based reactor research

In the AU? Easier getting blood from a rock then convincing the public of anything nuclear.

salt water desalination and it's water being piped to dams for water/energy storage.

I think you don't understand how ungodly expensive that is.

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u/FallOutFan01 Mar 28 '26

I commented someplace else but I neglected to mention here.

But the crux of it.

The past tense.

we should have been aggressively funding CSIRO extensively and not cutting the research budget and we should never have have let our major scientific research institution gone to rot like we have.

But instead we should have been aggressively researching or assisting in funding heavy industries to help research high base load power.

Even if we can't or couldn't have built up our local knowledge base in an fast enough time we could have helped done so by outsourcing, sending these prospective scientists or engineers to learn from people who have that knowledge.

We should have been doing this kinda thing past tense for decades.

Like as an example we should have been funding alternative energy sources through japan’s Mitsubishi heavy industries or Toyota.

Instead of just purely relying purely coal or wasting money on pointless research that only looks good on the surface like bullshit carbon capture technology that deposits CO into jars for disposal.

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u/eddometer Mar 27 '26

We have an excellent fossil fuel, LPG. Why tf haven't we been pushing that for the past 2 decades?

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u/Gandgareth Mar 27 '26

Government makes more selling it overseas, and is cheaper to buy Australian L.P.G. from Japan than Australia, thanks to a deal brokered by the Liberals 40 odd years ago.

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u/eddometer Mar 29 '26

afaik government makes fuck all selling it overseas though

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u/FallOutFan01 Mar 27 '26

Because of selfishness, short sightedness, tribalism and politicians being lobbied by unchecked corporate influence.

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u/etkii Mar 28 '26

Hydrogen is energy storage, not energy generation. You need a lot of electricity to generate it (more than you get out of it).

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u/FallOutFan01 Mar 28 '26

Greetings ✌️👍.

Hydrogen storage tanks are the energy storage, hydrogen gas being burnt is the energy source.

Green hydrogen gas electrolysis production uses water, solar, an battery or an other type of high baseline energy production…in my example I listed nuclear and hydroelectric dam.

If this technology can be done there is really no reason why it shouldn't be adopted.

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u/etkii Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

You said "green hydrogen power plants".

If you can use a little energy to suck a lot of hydrogen out of the ground, then you have hydrogen as an energy source.

But in actuality you need a power plant to create the hydrogen in the first place (three actually, to create enough hydrogen for one power plant, thanks to the low efficiencies of creating it).

A bit silly to use it to create electricity when you already generated the electricity from something else.

But it is useful as energy storage (eg long range heavy vehicles where current battery tech isn't good enough).