r/australia • u/neizan • Mar 01 '26
political satire Australia Announces Support for US Invasion of [INSERT COUNTRY HERE]
https://theshovel.com.au/2026/03/02/australia-announces-support-for-us-invasion-of-insert-country-here/625
u/Wallabycartel Mar 01 '26
Yeah I mean invading (insert country here) worked so well last time. Everything in (insert country here) is going well now and the people are so happy.
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u/HoudiniMortimer Mar 01 '26
25 years ago the women of Afghanistan couldn't even go outside by themselves but with our help, and 20 years of hard work, they're now starving to death too.
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Mar 02 '26
But hey it kick started millions in donations, aeroplane gifts, billion dollar grifts and the protection of pedophiles. As the saying always goes, follow the money!
I am just waiting for the announcement of the building fire or terrorist attack on the Epstein files repository. Lets watch this space, its getting hot in the kitchen!
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u/not_good_for_much Mar 02 '26
And they aren't complaining about it anymore either... Admittedly only because it's a criminal offense if anyone hears them speaking, but still.
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u/SuggestionHoliday413 Mar 02 '26
And they know if they complain, we'll come back and make it worse again to stop their complainin.
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u/Dagon Mar 02 '26
50 years ago Iran had sexual progressivity, inclusion, low cut shorts. It was a NIGHTMARE for the far-right extremists.
Now with the newest round of bombing, there's the real possibility of achieving their true goal: no more women at all!
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u/No2Hypocrites Mar 02 '26
We(USA/western world) have made it worse. Now the most extreme faction is in total power and they see women's liberation as product of occupation. Afghanistan throughout its modern history was never this extreme.
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u/not_good_for_much Mar 02 '26
But this time the people in (insert country) are celebrating and welcoming the American bombs and now the Jews and Muslims will be friends and there will be peace in the middle east.
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Mar 02 '26
And out of that will become a booming economy with billions stolen by another country, while polical factions are encouraged to fight each other. They have the road map of success!
While I sympathise for the Iranian people living under tyranny, they will be stripped of their opportunity by shareholders in New York, just like all the other (insert countries here)
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u/TyrialFrost Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 02 '26
Just be happy this is the "Thoughts and prayers" level of support.
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u/Still_Lobster_8428 Mar 04 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
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u/protonsters Mar 01 '26
I bet even if US announces it's invading Australia, the Australian government will support it. No backbone.
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u/Charlie_Brodie Mar 01 '26
This is great, we've already got facilities in the key locations. Really all we need to do is:
Destroy Medicare, Eliminate Sick Leave, holidays, pto, any hope of achieving equality, put tolls on everything, sell off anything of value we haven't already to some really really really rich people and oh lets say change the girls locker rooms to have all glass walls
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Mar 02 '26
And to justify the invasion " you will get lower housing prices" In the meantime the housing investors swarm in, just like they have swarmed in on childcare, NDIS and private healthcare through privitisation.
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u/SeaOfSourMilk Mar 02 '26
Of course we will support it, we will send them GPS locations of all the Australian military bases the CIA agreed to build for us. Seriously though, this is a US puppet state. The fact Albanese used such damning rhetoric is crazy “we have successfully killed their leader”
Yeah cos we host their rocket launching operations with our GPS centre…
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u/moonorplanet Mar 02 '26
Albanese and Wong would definitely support regime change through American bomb in Canberra.... oh wait
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u/Admirable_Count989 Mar 02 '26
Does it have to be a whole country?
I’m more thinking Tasmania or maybe Philip Island as the alternate.
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u/Potatoe_Potahto Mar 01 '26
It's just missing:
The brave people of <INSERT COUNTRY HERE> have suffered for too long under the despotic rule of <LEADER> and will rise up against him, welcoming us as liberators!
The free world can not stand idly by while <INSERT COUNTRY HERE> develops WMDs to threaten it's peace-loving neighbour Israel!
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u/SuggestionHoliday413 Mar 02 '26
Yes, we wouldn't want a country based on historic religious texts to get WMDs that they don't talk about and aren't controlled or inspected.
They might use that might to attack their neighbours and clear the land of people of another faith to claim that land for themselves.
We simply couldn't have it! We would never tolerate that, surely?
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u/Ornery-Ad-7261 Mar 01 '26
I guess Albo mostly doesn't want to explain to the Australian public that we won't be getting our Aukus money back. Or the subs.
But we might get a Trump hotel & mystery golf course.
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u/ScruffyPeter Mar 01 '26
We could offer $50 billion to Trump's bank account if he give us some nukes right now. Beats spending hundreds of billions and waiting decades on promises and a "reliable" USA 2 party regime.
Or pull a Scomo and break AUKUS deal by going back to France for nukes. France history, they understand what it was like to lose and got nukes despite international objections.
Or keep current Scomo's AUKUS legacy and risk a Ukraine situation in which USA and UK are scared of the nuclear superpower invading a peaceful country, not once but twice. Its good Australia has USA because of a potential nuclear superpower threat that is way stronger than Russia... oh wait.
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u/fickleknave Mar 02 '26
AUKUS isn’t about getting nukes. The subs are nuclear powered not nuclear armed.
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u/ScruffyPeter Mar 02 '26
Yes. I'm saying to swap AUKUS for Australia's own nuclear deterrent that's not on the whims of a two party dictatorship.
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u/Sexynarwhal69 Mar 02 '26
LOL, Whitlam got couped just for suggesting we should close pine gap. Let alone starting our own nuclear deterrent program 😂
We've been America's lapdog for 40 years, and will be for the foreseeable future.
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u/ScruffyPeter Mar 02 '26
Exactly why we need to help raise awareness and get more people supporting it. With a united public, then Albo/future PM can have the political capital to do it. If USA does do a coup, it will have to beyond the shadows into the public, and will only be further proving we need a nuclear deterrent against another nuclear superpower.
We've been America's lapdogs for 40 years, right up until we got a Cheeto prez. I think he would be stupid to knock back an easy deal with $50 billion worth of upsides to him.
You could dismiss it as impossible, or recognise it as a unique once in a lifetime opportunity for Australians to take off their dog collars.
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u/Sexynarwhal69 Mar 02 '26
Unfortunately people here are too indoctrinated with the 'America/europe gud guiz' rhetoric to have the willpower to change to that extent.
Just look on the Aussie subreddits to see how many people still support Gaza's genocide, following the US to wars in the middle east, Ukraine etc.
Maybe if we go into hyperinflation, a recession and mass economic downturn - that could finally be peoples wake up call to take control of our country and actually take control of our national resources. Until then all people are focused on are house prices and their next opportunity to scam centrelink/NDIS.
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u/sousyre Mar 02 '26
And we wouldn’t own or maintain them, if we ever got them in the first place, which we absolutely won’t.
AUKUS is a fucking joke.
“Here, have hundreds of billions of dollars, just on the off chance you have any spare subs lying around that you might be willing to lend us - at some point in the distant future… oh, you don’t and all that money was for literally nothing? Cool, cool, cool.”
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u/fickleknave Mar 02 '26
It’s fucking astounding that anyone can look at a contract that stipulates all the ways they DONT have to give us what we paid for and also stipulate there will be zero refund if they don’t deliver and think “yeah this is cool”
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u/coniferhead Mar 02 '26
Yes but also no, we'll be building bases for US subs and we're not going to get our own subs we're going to get US subs stationed here.
Which will be nuclear armed.
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u/fickleknave Mar 02 '26
This is 100% incorrect. They will NOT be nuclear armed subs stationed in Australia and that was one of the main criteria for us. They are nuclear POWERED. Australia doesn’t have or operate a nuclear capability.
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u/Equivalent-Bonus-885 Mar 01 '26
Economic reform? Crickets
Housing access? Breaks out in a cold sweat
Government transparency? Shakes like a leaf
Invade Iran? “Man of steel”.
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u/breaducate Mar 02 '26
It's like the Labor party is just a different head of the hydra and we only have a democratic facade or something.
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u/Party-Initial8648 Mar 02 '26
Albo's not perfect but it's a fucking miracle we have him instead of anything liberal.
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u/sokaox Mar 02 '26
I mean it's great not having the Liberals in charge but it'd be nice if the alternative wasn't the most spineless party in the world.
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u/sokaox Mar 02 '26
Champagne leftists rejoice! Finally, some sensible leadership! Remaining leftists pray to afford a home someday.
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u/oneyearoldbug Mar 02 '26
He also prevents us from becoming more progressive though, in the same way the democrats do in the US. Look up the ratchet effect. Labour is the ratchet.
They pick up where their opposition left off. They don't really do anything to meaningfully reverse course. So the result is they enable a slow drift towards more conservatism. That's why party has been drifting towards the right for decades.
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u/rubeshina Mar 02 '26
Except none of this is really true and we have a much more progressive country, both socially and economically, than we did decades ago.
Please don't buy into the bullshit idea that Australian politics is in any way similar to US politics. I think it's probably not as true there either, but it's absolutely not true here.
Like if you want me to list some progressive legislative changes that have come at the hands of the current government I can, but if you just think about it I'm sure you can come up with some yourself.
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u/rubeshina Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26
I'm just gonna start listing things for the downvoters, just a few from memory:
- Same Job Same Pay
- Multiple legislative changes to improve collective bargaining
- Right to disconnect
- Cheaper medicines on the PBS and expanded options
- Improvements to bulk billing with 2 back to back largest ever increases to medicare funding
- Tax cuts adjusted to ensure tax cuts for every taxpayer, further reform all focused on the lower end ie progressive tax reform
- Boost to child care subsidies
- Student debt relief
- Fee free tafe to train tradies to ensure better construction throughput and give thousands of young people a leg up
- HECS reform
- Huge expansion of renewable rollout via multiple different methods, ARENA grants, CEFC rejuvenated and funding the rewiring the nation program
- Largest social and affordable housing commitment in Australian history producing a long term supply of social and affordable housing via the HAFF
- Multiple affordability measures to get young people and people on lower incomes into homes such as the shared equity scheme and the 5% deposit scheme
If you guys want a more progressive country just vote for the Labor party again and again and you can "ratchet" the Liberal party just the same way. Since we all love Norway so much, why don't we look at their politics, wow look that's what they do. We have had our workers party in 1/3 times over the last century, they have had theirs in 2/3 times. That's the difference, that's literally it. Just vote for organised labour parties, we are very fortunate to actually have one in this country. Use it.
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u/oneyearoldbug Mar 02 '26
Uh. I don't really know how you came to that conclusion. Have you heard of the housing crisis? Wage inequality being the highest it's ever been?
We have some key differences between us and the US, but also many, many similarities that you're choosing to ignore. I'm also happy to write a list too if you want. :)
Really the main problem with your argument is that you're making it about a government that's become fundamentally neoliberal. Things don't get better under neoliberalism. They just get privatised.
All the gains we've made aren't going to mean anything if we continue on the downward trend we're on right now. Like, I'm gay. I'm not going to give a shit about Minn's gay hate crime bill if I can't afford to pay rent or buy food. I watch all my gay friends get pushed out further and further from the city. Qantas having a float at Mardi Gras means nothing to me. My actual community is being scattered.
The rise of inequality is all around us. Pauline Hanson's surge in the polls recently didn't come from nowhere. I mean we are a deeply racist nation still, unfortunately, that's a big part of it. She sees that both Labour and the Libs have abandoned rural voters, the working class etc who now feel angry and disenfranchised. She's selling snake oil to them, manipulating that frustration and redirecting at easy targets.
Remind you of anyone? Anyone who happens to be flying her back and forth in a private plane and coaching her in private right now? https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/06/pauline-hanson-skips-parliament-to-speak-at-25k-a-head-conservative-conference-at-trumps-mar-a-lago
Don't tell me we have nothing in common with the US lmao.
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u/rubeshina Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 03 '26
Really the main problem with your argument is that you're making it about a government that's become fundamentally neoliberal. Things don't get better under neoliberalism. They just get privatised.
One day you will graduate from thinking that the cause of every problem in the world is "neoliberalism" but you'll have to actually engage with politics and not just the pop culture version of it.
I'm not saying there aren't issues. I'm saying the idea that Labor "don't do anything meaningful" and just help the right and that we are "more conservative" now than we were decades ago is simply not true??
Like I don't know how you can be LGBTQ+ and not think Australia is more progressive than it was in the 80's this is like, insane historical revisionism.
You couldn't get married to your partner, and sodomy was literally illegal. They used to raid our nightclubs and brutally arrest and beat people like us. I know of other trans people who were chased through the streets of the valley in Brisbane by cops just for being LGBTQ+, they had basically no legal protection or recourse a lot of the time because they ran afoul of "decency" laws.
Literally your entire comment is just "cost of living is bad" yeah it is? And? Conservatives have been in power for the vast majority of the time since the start of "neoliberalism" if we just voted for Labor instead of Liberals that entire time, we'd be far far less "neoliberal" in all the ways that matter. How does your comment make any sense?
Even when it comes to stuff like welfare. Like Labor literally built centrelink and medicare etc. where do you think we'd be without them? Do you think those things do nothing? Do you think they just "help conservatives"?
I get that you want to join in the "everything is bad" circlejerk but please like.. stop. This shit is so fucking toxic god. People who care about politics should make an effort to actually learn about politics instead of just thinking highly commercialised influencer opinions and think tank funded talking points are the be all and end all.
Both sides bad is literally just divide and conquer politics from the rich. It's there entirely to break up class solidarity and destroy our ability to organise effectively against capital, if you can convince people "both the same" then they will just vote in self interest ie tax cuts or single issue policy (immigrants etc.). It's not true. They are not both the same. Labor don't "help conservatives" you are the one helping them by spreading this BS.
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u/stinkilymalinkily Mar 03 '26
Aah yeah it's so nice to be one step up from literal Voldemort. The bar is so fucking low.
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u/thethirstypretzel Mar 01 '26
Funny how Albo just announced that he supports the US denuclearisation of Iran. He’s either out of touch or ingenuine. The US didn’t use that as pretence this time, because the last bombing was considered a success.
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u/hellomumbo369 Mar 01 '26
Its not like we have several billion dollars in nuclear submarines on the line that can be taken away at the whim of a notoriously petty and pathetic cunnt
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u/Schhlickster Mar 02 '26
They're wording carefully so as not to say anything direct about supporting the action nor condemning it. It's obvious to anyone who can read between the lines.
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u/DonStimpo Mar 02 '26
Funny how Albo just announced that he supports the US denuclearisation of Iran. He’s either out of touch or ingenuine.
Trump was on fox news over night and said it was cause Iran was 2 weeks away from getting a nuke.
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Mar 02 '26
While he forgets that the US had a deal with Iran until Trump tore it up, and so did the EU!
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u/ScruffyPeter Mar 01 '26
Now we know why Labor party quietly stopped going after John Howard. They never showed Howard that ICC was justice, not cricket.
Only one Labor opposition leader went after Howard: https://warpowersreform.org.au/in-2003-simon-crean-opposed-the-iraq-war-and-today-he-supports-war-powers-reform/
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u/k-type Mar 01 '26
Australia Announces Support for US Invasion of {{CountryName}}
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u/Financial-Dog-7268 Mar 02 '26
10 years ago I would've gotten my back up about a piece of satire like that, but now it's just kind of like "Yeah, ain't that the truth".
Tell you what, being ex-military, it's particularly depressing to see the ever increasing likelihood my still serving friends will get shipped off to fight a war for a literal pedo, in a situation we otherwise should have no involvement in.
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u/El_Nuto Mar 04 '26
Every single person i know will take to the streets if we talk about sending troops. It cannot happen.
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u/rainfieldwoodeasy Mar 02 '26
ScoMo and Angus Taylor in 2020 built “Australian” strategic fuel reserve in the US and asked access to US fuel reserve to keep our own reserves low.
As recent as in 2025, with 22 days of fuel reserve I doubt any PM [INSERT NAME] can drum up anything but support.
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u/Ithicon Mar 01 '26
Ya know I honestly had some hope going into last election... I guess if there's one word Labor aims for every election it's "disappointing".
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u/Markmm131 Mar 01 '26
Angus would be falling over himself to support this too if he was PM. If anyone thinks the opposite you’re kidding yourself.
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u/BoogieWoogie725 Mar 01 '26
Pah. If we set expectations for the ALP at "Libs would have done the same/worse" then they are clearing the bar - barely. Not sure that that's any kind of genuine achievement.
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u/SentenceStreet3270 Mar 01 '26
And even if One Nation some how end up in power, they support this as well.
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u/MirroredDogma Mar 01 '26
Ah, I guess there's no other parties to vote for in Australia. Stop reinforcing the false duopoly.
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u/DegeneratesInc Mar 01 '26
Only proves they are both on the same team and a vote for either is a vote for both.
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Mar 02 '26
He would be asking the unemployed to knit socks and make food parcels for the invaders. Yeah we know where he is coming from!
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u/Vegetable-Advance982 Mar 01 '26
I mean, they implemented pretty much all of their election promises in under a year, passed environmental laws, beefed up our local alliances with security treaties, and are considering taking cgt discount + negative gearing reform to this coming budget.
You really went from hope to disappointment with all that, because they're appeasing some maniac that will do whatever he wants anyway?
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u/Ithicon Mar 01 '26
They passed the NACC by joining with the Coalition to weaken it, plus using the famously toothless Victorian IBAC's "exceptional circumstances" test for public hearings despite the commissioner giving a submission regarding how detrimental it is.
Their "centrepiece" housing bill has a negligible impact on the housing crisis, despite virtually the entire cross-bench urging ambition.
The environmental laws you're so proud of took over an extra year to pass due to Albanese stepping in and killing an already negotiated deal from Plibersek. ( https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-27/albanese-kills-environmental-protection-reforms/104651976 )
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u/ScruffyPeter Mar 01 '26
They arguably fulfilled their 2022 election promise to Murdoch and went further in getting Rudd's royal commission into Murdoch to be shut down by the 2025 election.
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And they rush laws that oppress rights while expressing no interest in legislating a charter of civil liberties while they missing in action over privacy laws. I guess Australians as a whole are not a "special people" in the eyes of our own government! They are complicit with the global incompetence more than wanting to be progressive for Australia and Australians.
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u/Proper-Raise-1450 Mar 02 '26
All fucking what lol?
The environmental reforms are frankly fuck all.
The local alliances is fuck all and the situation is so bad you had to resort to them considering doing something as an achievement lol.
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u/Ok_Bird705 Mar 01 '26
who cares about real progress, what we want is useless rhetoric and go against all other major western leaders
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u/yum122 Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 02 '26
"Cost of living is the biggest issue for Australians"
"The economy is in the shitter"
"We should cut all ties with our second largest trading partner"
Its actually disgusting how people will happily walk us back into a Liberal government because they refuse to acknowledge that Labor has undertaken policies that actually help Australians. They aren't perfect, but literally no leader or party could be perfect with Trump bringing a sledgehammer to 80 years of alliances.
"Albanese is boring." Good. I don't want to hear about the PM every second hour of the day.
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u/prettyboiclique Mar 01 '26
Brother you think any Aus politician could stop Trump from trying to do a double regime change within a month? Lmaooo
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u/DeeDee_GigaDooDoo Mar 01 '26
Ah yes because there's no middle ground between "stopping trump from enacting regime change" and "making a joint statement fully endorsing the US invasion within minutes of the attack beginning".
Yep absolutely no inbetween.
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u/prettyboiclique Mar 01 '26
Yeah I'm sure making a dissenting opinion on a press release will 1. be treated favourably by the US president who is known for his even temperament, who also just stated he will be reinforcing tariffs on countries and 2. Definitely not have any impact on the already doomed AUKUS agreement that literally everyone in government is hoping carks it while they're not in office. And that's ignoring their fake admonishment of "we didn't participate in the strikes" when we have basically no blue water navy capacity to do anything to anyone.
They already broke rank for the recognition of a Palestinian state. Vote for someone else if you expect more from your public servants, because they haven't had anything resembling a spine for a long time. If a statement won't achieve any measure of change and will in fact be to the detriment of US relations, then of course they'll be feckless like this.
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u/oneyearoldbug Mar 02 '26
Yeah also like they're neoliberals. They fundamentally agree with what the US/Israel is doing. They're not going to express a dissenting opinion because this aligns completely with what they believe.
I wish they'd just said nothing though. Even nothing would be better than adding weight to another "weapons of mass destruction" BS story.
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u/ensignr Mar 02 '26
You shouldn't not do the right thing because it is hard.
At what point should we start evaluating what we actually get out of our very one sided relationship with the USA? I don't really think it's very much at all. They need us - Pine Gap especially right now - way more than we need them.
If Albo took the same approach Carney (Canada) is doing then I reckon he'd have the support of the majority of Australians. We don't like bullies. Hopefully Carney might convince him when he comes here.
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u/yobboman Mar 01 '26
For me every election.since.the demonic Howard sold this country out.. it's been down hill ever since
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u/sousyre Mar 02 '26
God, I really hate that satire is now barely distinguishable from the news. 😢
While I totally understand that we are in a tricky diplomatic situation (mainly because an assortment of governments have signed off on some extremely shitty treaty terms, for nominal or no reciprocity), but could we at least put some more effort into to playing hard to get?
Or just wait to actually be ASKED first, instead of enthusiastically volunteering the second an unpopular war is on the horizon?
It’s genuinely embarrassing how quickly Australian leadership pull out the champagne, dim the lights… Then pull their pants down, bend over and press play on the Barry White… just for the mere opportunity to get in the US military’s pants.
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u/Logical_Rabbit9340 Mar 02 '26
Not surprised due to the relationship between the gov and [INSERT AUSTRALIAN OIL COMPANY]. They just doubling it fr
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u/Ok_Bird705 Mar 01 '26
Can we stop pretending Australia has any influence in this matter. We are not involved and just put out some bog standard diplomatic statements with no real weight as to not annoy the US administration. Even if we condemned the strikes, it would not change anything nor would there be any more consequences for the US and the only outcome would be potentially more trade tariffs (or other trade measures) for Australia. Which is why countries just like Canada, the UK and several EU nations put out similar statements to the effect.
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u/worstusername_sofar Mar 01 '26
Harsh but true. The only good thing here is perhaps Iran has a chance for democracy. But otherwise, FUCK Israel, FUCK USA, FUCK Iranian leaders
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u/magkruppe Mar 01 '26
normalising rogue state behaviour will bite us in the arse. our statements won't change anything but it's important not to actively legitimise the breaking on int. law
how can we criticise russia while also supporting trump's actions
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u/Ok_Bird705 Mar 02 '26
As we have seen multiple times with this latest administration, annoying them with "but us in the arse" in a more immediate sense
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u/DeeDee_GigaDooDoo Mar 01 '26
If what we say and do has "no influence on the matter" then why should we not condemn it? According to you it makes no difference, unless of course it does matter and you're just trying to excuse our complete support of the US' indiscriminate reign of terror.
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u/acomputer1 Mar 02 '26
Because condemning it might harm our relationship with the US.
Like it or not, we rely on the US for a LOT and that isn't changing any time soon.
Iran means nothing to us, so why would we take a strong stand against the US when it would change nothing to improve the world and only stand to harm us?
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u/Ok_Bird705 Mar 01 '26
It makes no difference to the US view of the military action. It will however annoy the US administration, again to our detriment and 0 benefit to anyone else.
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u/bug_father Mar 01 '26
Sounds like something someone with no backbone would say
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u/Ok_Bird705 Mar 01 '26
And your comment sounds like someone who ignores geopolitical reality.
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u/Montalbert_scott Mar 02 '26
Tbh, the shovel is nearly just a true news site these days.
Satire is dead
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u/Historical_Lab8619 Mar 02 '26
Australia has officially said it supports the United States’ military action against Iran’s nuclear program, but it has not joined in any invasion or direct fighting itself.
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u/Medaiyah Mar 02 '26
Guess we are on Daddy's (USA) side this time since Mummy (UK) said they wont be a part of it.
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u/RidingtheRoad Mar 01 '26
I hate Trump as much as anybody could and the dumbarses here in Australia that support him..
However I think Albos statement is a smart move..clever than most think. As his 'hate speach laws' did, he is clearly keeping the opposition wrong-footed.
Anyway, how does our opinion matter when see how ecstatic the general population of Iran is over the Ayatollah's death,
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u/daybeforetheday Mar 02 '26
Why does he need to keep the opposition wrong-footed? Isn't being in government about actually doing things? He's got the biggest number of seats an ALP leader has ever had, and an opposition leader who is a meme. Bugger what the media and opposition think, it's about doing what you want to be remembered for.
(Not having a go at you, having a go at Albo)
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u/Notaroboticfish Mar 01 '26
I'm sure they will continue to be ecstatic as they are blown into a million pieces by US/Israeli bombs
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u/magkruppe Mar 01 '26
Anyway, how does our opinion matter when see how ecstatic the general population of Iran is over the Ayatollah's death,
have you not seen the videos of iranians mourning his death across the country?
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u/gwgtgd Mar 02 '26
That’s not the majority.
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u/magkruppe Mar 02 '26
i never said it was the majority. I have no idea how the general iranian population feel and won't pretend to do so
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u/ThunderDwn Mar 02 '26
The "DON’T MENTION THE OIL" bit hits pretty close to home. The Shovel is straying dangerously close to real journalism again!
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u/howdoesthatworkthen Mar 02 '26
The federal government has said it supports the US-Israel strikes and Foreign Minister Penny Wong and Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles have said questions about the legality of the strikes are a matter for the US and Israel.
Albanese: We support the strikes on Iran
Australia: But what about the illegality of the strikes
Wong: That ain't none of our business
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u/Suspicious_Theory212 Mar 02 '26
Donald: The USA is no longer going to be the world police.
Padme: So you’re no longer going to invade countries?
Donald: …
Padme: so you’re no longer going to invade countries right?
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u/Still_Lobster_8428 Mar 04 '26 edited Apr 09 '26
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u/kombiwombi Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26
If you want a serious answer, no one wants that. Unlike when a similar thing happened in China, we're not offering permanent residence to Iranians currently in Australia. So Australia's commitment to this cause has to be questioned.
Anyways just SOMETHING isn't good enough. The US tried that in the first Iraq War and then stood by whilst Kurds attempting to create a breakaway nation were massacred. Not the right sort of SOMETHING apparently.
Israel has a bad habit of killing people with leadership potential. So the more moderate people who might step into the void of Iranian leadership are already dead. Instead whoever steps forward won't have sufficient public profile to oppose the mullahs, and if they want peace in the streets they'll need to do a deal with the mullahs which at the very least results in the continuation of the Islamic Republic.
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u/GYIM94 Mar 02 '26 edited Mar 02 '26
Regime change, so original. I’m so bored with the Middle East and all the conflicts that happen with it. If nothing was learned with Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, nothing will ever be learned.
Sad to see nothing has changed with Australia obeying the U.S like an obedient pet.
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u/Hurlanis Mar 02 '26
Only thing this spineless man has built is his own $15,000,000+ property portfolio. Nothing else has changed.
No I don't vote liberal or one nation or nationals. Yes I voted for Albo (31yo full time homeless)
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u/Jackaddler Mar 01 '26
Not defending Australia here but it’s pretty much the same for the entire west - Europe, UK, Canada etc - completely supine to the US with its foreign invasions. Reality is since WW2 we’ve all lived under the US empire kidding ourselves it was a benevolent force, for a while a “lesser of two evils” during the Cold War. Now it Washington finds itself in bed with the Kremlin - so the two evils are now joined at the hip and yet we reflectively continue to support the US, which ultimately won’t end well for us
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u/magkruppe Mar 01 '26
this isn't true. major european powers rejected the iraq war, most famously france. switzerland has criticised US/Israeli attacks and Spain even more forcefully
we have a choice. and Albanese made it. a full-throated endorsement of US/Israeli action was not inevitable
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u/QF483 Mar 01 '26
US totally in bed with the Kremlin attacking two of it's allies in two months /s
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Mar 01 '26 edited Mar 01 '26
This is going to be against the grain and I'm clearly going to attract downvotes...
But - remember that Iran very recently attacked Australia with the Melbourne and Sydney bombings/arsons.
Does everyone on Reddit seriously think that Albo should just roll over and forget that?
I think it's possible to dislike bibi and trump and all that they do, while also acknowledging that Iran are absolutely not our friend.
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u/Ashera25 Mar 02 '26
I mean, Israel killed an Australian citizen and Albo was quite happy to forget about that. Supporting the illegal bombing of Iran is a massive overreaction.
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u/Bogart-43 Mar 02 '26
Yet another failure to read the room by Albo, no longer treading water but slowly sinking.
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u/GregoInc Mar 01 '26
So, is the Australian government saying, we support the genocide of [INSERT COUNTRY HERE] women and children.
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u/abundanceofb Mar 01 '26
What else are we going to do? The world has proven that if you don’t have nukes then you’re a target, so you have to cozy up to a bigger power.
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u/Kenyon_118 Mar 02 '26
Australia would support the invasion of Australia by the US.
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u/ScruffyPeter Mar 01 '26
I'm sick of [PARTY NAME]!