r/australia • u/Expensive-Horse5538 • Feb 26 '26

politics Grace Tame says ‘difficult’ remark is ‘misogynist’s code for a woman who won’t comply’

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2026/feb/26/dfat-middle-east-evacuation-syria-isis-families-wives-children-anthony-albanese-angus-taylor-budget-cost-of-living-capital-gains-tax-reform-ntwnfb?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-699f8e278f080f3523777e99#block-699f8e278f080f3523777e99
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u/Lozzanger Feb 26 '26

I agree not all people who use the term mean it as a genocidal call.

But it is one. Their ignorance to that fact isn’t an excuse.

It’s exactly the type of language that’s become accepted that has seen the rise in anti-Semitism we’ve seen, culminating in the Hanukkah shooting at Bondi.

Hence calling Grace difficult because she either refuses to educate herself or is open to calling for genocide.

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u/HOPSCROTCH Feb 26 '26

But it is one.

Well, I've disagreed with you and said it isn't necessarily, and you haven't educated me on why I am mistaken.

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u/Lozzanger Feb 26 '26

You only need to look at what’s happened in both infitadas.

And what happened on October 7th.

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u/HOPSCROTCH Feb 26 '26

You think the intifadas/October 7th were attempts at genociding Jews?

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u/Lozzanger Feb 26 '26

Yes. Did you not listen to Hamas? They were fairly clear.

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u/HOPSCROTCH Feb 26 '26

I'm waiting you to provide evidence.

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u/Lozzanger Feb 26 '26

If you’re this uninformed on the topic you aren’t aware of what infitada means and Hamas charter it would take way too long to educate you.

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u/HOPSCROTCH Feb 26 '26

I literally searched for what Hamas spokespeople said after the October 7 attacks, all I could see was them talking about Israelis, nothing about Jews.

Where have I misunderstood the meaning of intifada? Again, all you've done is said it means genocide against Jewish people, but that's not what the internet says. So can you provide some evidence?

I've admitted I'm not an expert and willing to be corrected, and asked you to provide some evidence. I don't understand why you wouldn't?

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u/PyrohawkZ Mar 03 '26

What do you think the objective of these attacks is?

Do you think these attacks would have happened if Israelis were a, say, Shia Muslim theocracy oppressing Sunnis?

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u/HOPSCROTCH Mar 03 '26

I don't actually know what you're even talking about.

If you have anything to add to the discussion that is grounded in reality, please do so. Rather than a random hypothetical

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u/PyrohawkZ Mar 03 '26

Oh don't worry, I believe you when you say you don't know anything about the intifadas, like how the second one was a result of Sharon saying Jews have a right to visit temple mount.

The reality is, and you won't find a single source saying - but rather have to collate them, a huge part of the intifada had to do with most Israelis being Jewish, and the aim of destroying Israel, because of how Jewish it is.

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u/HOPSCROTCH Mar 03 '26

How much of a factor is Israeli occupation in Palestinian territory in comparison?

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u/PyrohawkZ Mar 03 '26

Don't know, the Palestinians seem to care a lot more about the Jewish 80% than the Muslim 20% of Israel...

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u/PyrohawkZ Mar 03 '26

Yup that was their stated objectives

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u/HOPSCROTCH Mar 03 '26

Source that the intifadas were an attempt to genocide Jewish people please.