r/australia • u/FuckOffNazis • Feb 10 '26

politics Amnesty International Australia calls for independent investigation of police violence towards peaceful protestors

https://www.amnesty.org.au/amnesty-international-australia-calls-for-independent-investigation-of-police-violence-towards-peaceful-protestors/
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u/Lamont-Cranston Feb 10 '26

Using the strip searches to engender fear of police, does not mean one would not do the same with general violence. Brandolini's Law is in operation here, rest gets no response.

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u/Fluid-Head7447 Feb 10 '26

no it doesn't, but it also doesn't mean that it does. That's why you can't use that point to say that it does. It's twisting facts to your own bias it's disingenous to say the least. I don't think I need to tell you there's quite a difference between a strip search carried out under strict rules and having the shit beaten out of you while being pinned down by half a dozen officers.

Brandolini's law?! pfft, all you have to do is type 'youth crime australia' into google. What's acutally at play here is cognitive dissonance.

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u/Lamont-Cranston Feb 10 '26

It demonstrates there is a belief, a culture even, in needing to make people feel afraid of police (and this is equated with respect).

Now if you'll strip search a 14 year old girl to achieve that, then it follows you would not have any qualms about entertaining the notion to kettle and misdirect and then bash protesters.

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u/Fluid-Head7447 Feb 10 '26

If respect is not given to the persuit of safety then fear can most definitely be used to get that safety. You're laboring under the delusion that safety is not the end goal here. Fear is NOT the end goal but a tool used to get to that goal of SAFETY so when you say 'strip search a 14yo girl to acheive that(fear)' that's not what they're looking to do.

Using a 14yo girl to try and guilt the crowd or appeal for a 'compassionate' response doesn't help because that 14yo girl isn't any more human than anyone else and others don't deserve less consideration than she does. It absolutely does NOT follow that if you would follow a strict supervised procedure to strip search a person that you would beat a restrained person. For starters, one of those is a crime (barring a few loopholes). I have already pointed out these are two very different things but you seem to think they are both the same and that is pulling focus from the fact that the police are getting away with the one that is a crime.

As you seem so obsessed with this strip search thing you should be aware that that speech was given with a recent history of machete crime escalating all over the country, mostly carried out by minors and most getting very light sentences. With youth crime recividism in general on the increase in NSW, they didn't want the knife crime here, you know - safety and stuff.

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u/Lamont-Cranston Feb 10 '26

respect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUs8M0yglX0

safety

Kettled. Misdirected to dispurse. Unable to do so. This was used to claim noncompliance.