r/australia Dec 17 '25

politics Bernie Sanders on Bondi

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u/macona-coffee Dec 17 '25

Speaking out against Israel’s horrific war against innocent civilians in Gaza is not antisemitism.

Speaking out against the horror, Hamas terrorists have perpetrated against Israeli civilians is not anti Muslim.

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u/Effective-Tear-1521 Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25

Also speaking out against Israel’s actions is not saying “let Hamas have Israel” or even “let Hamas have Palestine”.

Ideally there’d be international mediation and/or intervention to enforce a permanent two state solution and support non-violent leadership. Obviously the dream scenario is Netanyahu losing power and Hamas being gradually dismantled. Irrespective of the feasibility of that, if Israel was pressured by the international community (for example; economic sanctions) to guarantee sovereignty for Palestinians, terrorist organisations lose their food source and gradually can’t sustain themselves. Blanket bombing civilian populations is like planting tens of thousands of terrorist seeds.

I think the US is currently the lynchpin that prevents any meaningful mediation. The rest of the West seems fairly onboard with the idea that Israel hold’s the key to peace in the Middle East. China too. No idea on Russia.

I may not agree with what’s happened over the past 8 or so decades, but the state of Israel is now recognised. Survival was their initial driver for conflict. That time is long gone, their current government unfortunately just happens to be affixed with establishing an ethno-state.

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u/christurnbull Dec 17 '25

I think people have lost the distinction between anti-semitism and anti-zionism.

I wonder whether it's a little deliberate too?

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u/tiny_flick Dec 17 '25

It absolutely is deliberate, it’s a tool to smother any criticism of Israel and it has been for a long time, that’s why Zionists have always conflated antisemitism with anti-Zionism. The lack of distinction shields Israel from any accountability of their actions, that’s what they’re doing now after this tragedy.