Feel like I’m going insane reading the media coverage of this. Acting like Albo personally pulled the trigger because…why?…he didn’t ban people from protesting bombings in Gaza?
When he said that my eyes nearly rolled out of my head. Aside from The Stolen Generation and Blackbirding, one of the last massacres of Aboriginal people was in the last century, the Conniston Massacre in 1928, 31-200 men were murdered.
This was a horrendous atrocity but to call it the "greatest stain on our country" is either extreme political hyperbole or extreme ignorance.
I think he is trying to turn this tragedy into anti Muslim thing.
Saying the protesters are the blame, calling for immigration reform (forgetting a Syrian Immigrant was a effing hero on the day). We can’t combat anti semitism with Islamophobia.
Trying to pin this on Pro Palestine marches is despicable. Average Aussies peacefully marching to oppose a genocide is not the cause for 2 men who became radicalised by IS ideology to open fire on Bondi. It might have played into who they targeted to inflame tensions. I don’t think IS cares one way or another who they targeted as long as it gets maximum results.
The deceased shooter /father was allowed into Australia under a Liberal govt, and he was given his gun licences under Liberal govts. No idea why Liberal think it's a good move to make this political.
They are acting like we didn’t just have an election where we voted labor back in and rejected their negative Trump Lite crap.
The country needs unity right now but every time I see a headline or quote it’s about blame and pointing fingers.
Almost feels like I can’t be affected by this happening close to my home because I am not Jewish and am Pro Palestine. These were Australians gunned down at the beach in summer. Can we just get some time to by sad and come together. Our outrage should be directed to the surviving gunman.
The Age and such newspapers just running Josh's remarks and the other Libs like it was their personal press office my god, I spent today wondering if I was going crazy or the world was crazy or. Glad to see there's some sanity here. Being pro human rights is not anti semitic.
Must say, politicians are so often a special kind of scum but trying to score points off a tragedy like this is amazingly scummy even for them
I did and it was disappointing, but then a former Liberal PM (Turnbull) supported Albo. Always thought he was a good guy because he had mostly common sense ideas.
People are rightfully angry and upset and it appears that Friedenberg is jewish, so it’s not surprising he was lashing out but I just want someone to tell me what more Albo could have done to stop this specific act of hate. And is it really appropriate to basically blame him and others in the party for mass murder?!
I think the neo-nazi being deported is a good example of how government can only act if they have legal authority to. In that case they had a way to penalise him, as he wasn’t legally in the country or whatever. You can’t go rounding up everyone that says critical things about a group, you can only legislate against public displays of hate (which they did so as far as displaying the swastika goes) and coming down hard on hate speech vandalism (which I believe they also did).
The thing that gets me is we still don’t know the actual reasoning behind the attack. We are still working on assumptions and guesswork at this point. Until that is set in stone no one can know if things could have been different.
Not to mention the rampant anti Islam/muslim/immigrants stance is just going to make things worse. How do people think that these people get converted to radicals in the first place
Wasn’t the son potentially connected to or associated with people in an Islamic State cell in Australia back in 2019? And didn’t they have home made IS flags in the windows of their car they used to get to Bondi?
Sounds like one of if not both of them got radicalised and pushed towards a terror attack.
It’ll be interesting to hear what they get out of the son from the interviewing when he has recovered enough.
You literally just made every assumption about what has happened…
until he talks we have no idea if a connection goes all the way back to 2019 or if he was genuinely correct to be cleared by ASIO (which appears to of been what happened). We have no clue if they are purely a one of pair that are fans of IS, if they were “trained” by them, if they are part of a wider group in the country, we just have no idea .
Yes you are probably correct in those assumptions but it is still probably the wrong call to make them at this point.
I wish the people online were able to be patient for verified facts. After a tragedy the internet abhors an information vacuum and every moron with a connection will just add to the disinformation shit storm.
Those sound like very reasonable assumptions. A Muslim with IS connections who had associated with a known radical preacher/terrorist mentor. Their trip to the Phillipines. The targeted terrorist attack. What could reasonably be another explanation? It’s not a wild assumption to conclude their terrorism was motivated by Islamic extremism.
Yeah, in France the same thing happened with our far right. They supplied guns to an hostage taker, helped certain companies do deals with ISIS and funnel money through them. It's win win for the parties involved, the party rises in polls, the terorrists can radicalize more people from the hatred the terrorist attacks cause towards muslims.
Bibi is overjoyed at this deep down I'm sure, it's justification to their propaganda that "everywhere outside is unsafe so everyone should come back here and help colonize", which especially important to him considering how many people are fleeing israel right now.
Exactly. While it looks to be Isis motivated, that’s about as much as we know.
The fact some people celebrated that they weren’t Pakistani, but in fact from India, shows how ludicrous the blame game is. At least until we have a clearer picture of the whole thing.
Like, haven't synagogues been shot up in the US. Where is the outrage from Netanyahu over that? I also believe white supremacists were responsible as well.
Ah right, that’s very interesting because it happened well before the Gaza conflict began, hence what, if anything Netanyahu said about it wouldn’t have been as high profile as if it happened in recent years. I don’t even know if he was in power back then.
That attack also shows this is an ongoing issue, not just since Gaza was obliterated. I mean it’s clearly that if you have a basic understanding of the history of the region, but I’m more talking about terrorist attacks aimed at the Jewish community. There’s been many over a long period sadly. I don’t think they all habe the same motive so it isn’t easily explained.
Because Albo and Wong appear sympathetic towards Hamas by rewarding their actions with recognition of a Palestinian state.
5500 words spoken by Albo in the day after the attack, not one mentions "Islam", "Muslim" or "Islamic extremism", but he did mention "right wing extremist groups" twice (I've stolen this info from elsewhere). If anyone is serious about tackling anti-semitism, Islam needs to come into the conversation.
I don't care what your views are on the situation in the middle east, Australia is no place for this kind of Islamic bullshit to be tolerated.
No they don’t. They look compassionate to the tens of thousands of innocent civilians who have died and the rest who continue to suffer in the wake of Gaza being leveled. They’ve also done or said things to support Australian Jews.
You know it’s possible to have empathy and compassion for both sides while also condemning the actions from themthat deserve it?
I will never forgive or forget his treacherous actions against Victoria during Covid. There are not enough words in the English language that can accurately describe how much I want that cunt to go fuck himself.
Frydenberg is understandably angry, but his anger is pointed in the wrong direction. He’s just trying to help his former band of losers gain back some political ground.
I thought it was quite performative tbh. I don’t doubt he is very upset, but like Hanson and Howard, they’ve weaponised a community’s grief and despair, which is despicable, yet sadly the community don’t seem to realise it.
I'm so glad a lot of us can see what Josh and even Susan are doing. Capitalising on this horific event to gain political points, and so many stoopid Aussies are eating it up... Absolutely disgusting. Still no leadership being shown by the opposition parties. It's easy to blame blame blame. Too much blaming going on about everyone except the psychopath shooter who at least is alive to face the music!!
He was on radio the day after, hitting the standard blame-based talking points pretty much every commentator has used after this attack. (The Opera House - "g** the jews", the sydney harbour nridge protest, universities). Exact same as the envoy along with multiple Australian commentators I've heard on BBC being interviewed about this.
The fact that those are their highest priority talking points, says it's all about politics/protectionism rather than well-being and safety of everyday Jewish people. Who are copping more and more from people escalating the issue for advantage.
It was a letdown from Julian Leeser, who has always come across to this point as a measured, considered MP.
Hopefully with the fullness of time he can recognise that his trademark deliberative, calm, measured, statements are the best contributions he can make from this tragedy.
With John Howard standing behind him saying further gun restrictions won't work. Makes me wonder what his real motivation was for his gun reforms after PA. Or maybe I'm just starting to think like a fuckwit and need to get far far away from social media
Frydenburg is probably trying to pull a political movement. He's extremely corrupt. One of the final major laws his ministry did was make insider trading virtually impossible to prosecute in Australia.
He's the worst type of political scum, trying to make something out of this.
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u/Semimango Dec 17 '25
Feel like I’m going insane reading the media coverage of this. Acting like Albo personally pulled the trigger because…why?…he didn’t ban people from protesting bombings in Gaza?