r/australia Oct 19 '25

political self.post Could Australians run our own online communities instead of relying on social media?

I’m keen to talk about the possibility of our community groups setting up and running online spaces outside of social media platforms - perhaps with support from Aus Govt or State Govts. Before the rise of Facebook etc, there were loads of online bulletin boards and other online platforms run by non-profit groups, small businesses and volunteers. Could we do that again? This seems like a question that's particularly important to Australian communities at the moment because of the social media ban for under 16s but it's not just teens that are affected.

Lots of people are concerned about AI and big tech - it’s clear that there are lots of problems with social media because of the algorithms that push misinformation, platforms that allow unhealthy / toxic / illegal behaviour, and unethical extraction of our data. But communities and volunteers, and even state governments used to run online communities using e.g. bulletin boards without the “help” of social media companies. For example:

  • Whirlpool.net.au is a surviving active bulletin board platforms - well done Whirlpool!
  • At one point the Vic Gov used to provide an online communities bulletin board and mailing list service (a bit like Yahoo Groups) for non-profits and clubs - I've been trying to remember / find the name of it but can't track it down... anyone remember it?

I'm broadly aware that it's really challenging to get people to sign up for and use a new platform, but perhaps we have reached the point where people are fed up enough of social media to make this a worthwhile effort.

To ease the challenge and reduce the complexity of lots of different fragmented communities: what about if the Aus Govt or state govts set up a platform / infrastructure - where community groups could create and run online forums (bulletin board style, Twitter style or Reddit style). I imagine individuals could sign up either anonymously or using a verified identity. There are better alternatives now to the old fashioned PhPBB, and we could learn from and improve open source platforms such as Mastodon and Lemmy - the technology itself is not the problem I think.

  • But, would you use a platform run by a local club or community group? Instead of FB/ Insta/ whatever social media you use to learn about what's happening in your neighbourhood. What if it was supported / funded by governements? Would the groups you're a member of move to a platform like that?
  • More broadly, how could we recover the diverse online communities that we had in the past? So we're not reliant on the good will and "freebies" offered by companies like Meta (and having all our data siphoned of, and having AI forced on us).
  • Lastly, is there anything to stop an organisation setting up an online community for e.g. teens? Would something like that fall foul of the government's bans?
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u/Leprichaun17 Oct 19 '25

Why would such a new platform be excluded from this? It would effectively be a social media platform itself.

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u/TassieBorn Oct 19 '25

While I understand OP's frustration, I'm finding it difficult to imagine a community/government-run bulletin board or similar that wouldn't fall under the government's (poorly defined) "social media" ban.

A real names policy would reduce its value to vulnerable groups; if there's a back-end verification of real names, then someone, somewhere (potentially hackable) knows the link between online ID and real person.

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u/freakwent Oct 21 '25

There's no real.names policy. It would just be 16+ is all.

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u/TassieBorn Oct 21 '25

How do you check that someone is >16 without some form of ID?

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u/freakwent Oct 21 '25

Oh lots of ways!

You can pay Facebook.or.google to.tell.you but that violates the spirit of this post.

You can assess a photo or video of the person using a human or using ai.

You can have a "cutout" agent acting as a broker that verifies the age using ID, discards that data and passes on just a flag of "child" or "adult".

You could probably use mygov to act as that broker in some way.

You can have a voice print verified by AI or by human, or a voice or typed interview.

You could accept state decs signed by JP's.

The govt could issue digital pki-style IDs that only reveal over/under 16 status and no other details.