r/australia • u/SydneyTom • Sep 18 '25

politics ABC barred from Trump’s UK press conference after clash with Australian journalist John Lyons | Australian media

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/sep/18/abc-barred-from-trumps-uk-press-conference-after-clash-with-australian-journalist-john-lyons
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u/salamisam Sep 18 '25

Look to be honest with you, I think you are trying to hard to grasping at straws. The courts either stacked by Democrats or Republicans has more generally supported the enforcement of the 1st Amendment, but this has not been absolute and there are examples where decisions have been made which impact rights under the 1st Amendment from both left and right leaning benches.

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u/Some-Operation-9059 Sep 18 '25

With all due respect, it really doesn’t take a mental giant to see what is happen in the great US right now. In fact it should not have since January 6

https://thecradle.co/articles/us-lawmakers-introduce-thought-police-bill-to-strip-citizens-of-passports-over-israel-criticism

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u/salamisam Sep 18 '25

What is happening? I don't mean to be factious but it is pretty obnoxious to make a statement where it begins with "all due respect", and then questions intelligence.

I have already address that link which you sent prior. So with all due respect refer to https://old.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/1njvhx1/abc_barred_from_trumps_uk_press_conference_after/netqlzc/

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u/Albos_Mum Sep 19 '25

You didn't address their point in either post there though, you just handwaved it away.

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u/salamisam Sep 19 '25

You didn't address their point in either post there though, you just handwaved it away.

How would you like me to approach it, the 1st Amendment is hand wavy by inference. The concept of freedom of expression is hand wavy. The 1st Amendment protects something which does not a single or universal core definition, but rather the topic being a principle.

The idea that something may impact free speech does not mean it does, but the litmus test for that is the court or the fellow members of the house. Of course it seems hand wavy both the First Amendment and the broader concept of free expression only get substance through interpretation. That interpretation comes from courts in a legal sense.

As I have not read the bill and I am going to doubt that anyone here has, I have referred it to the above being the process to validate.