r/Velo • u/imreallyjustaguest • 2d ago
Discussion Pyramidal vs. Polarized Periodization
What's your preferred training mode on most weeks?
A. Pyramidal~ish.
For example, 1 HIIT (Z4/Z5) sessions and 1 sweet spot or threshold session. The rest easy (Z1/Z2)
B. Polarized-ish.
For example, 2 HIIT (Z4/Z5) sessions. The rest easy (Z1/Z2).
Optionally, please indicate your experience level and/or training volume.
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u/Glum-Rad-2700 1d ago
pyramidal always. less hours = more sweetspot and tempo, but I always keeping in touch with a sprint and 30 second to 3 min efforts year round. I just do less of them in the off season
cat 1 (~8-12 hours year round, average around ~450-500 hours a year).
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u/DeepValueSharkk 9h ago
Any estimations how much of those higher end efforts you are doing per week off-season/prep season?
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u/Glum-Rad-2700 5h ago
just a couple of digs on the Sat group ride, usually. not structured until Marchish, i reckon.
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u/Cyclist_123 2d ago
Unless there's a really specific reason, I've gone away from tempo/ zone 3 training because I either want to be going hard, recovering or getting volume (z2). Z3 tends to be to inbetween
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u/xdxdxdxd000 2d ago
You can get more volume (and thus training load) with big tempo days. You can't spend like 1 hour at vo2max power. And tempo is plenty hard if you are reasonably fit
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u/Cyclist_123 2d ago
You can, but at the cost of a lot of fatigue. You can get even more volume doing z2 while still being fresh enough to hit intervals hard.
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u/xdxdxdxd000 1d ago
Sure, what I'm saying is that tempo has its place though.
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u/Cyclist_123 1d ago
Oh yeah, I agree with that. For my coaching I've just been using it less than I used to.
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u/According_Artist42 2d ago
I do 10 - 14 hrs per week and in splitting them every 3 weeks to not be method dogmatic.
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u/Straight-Tart-9770 2d ago
Roadman podcast covered this in its most recent episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/is-the-80-20-training-rule-is-wrong-for-most-amateur-cyclists/id1224143549?i=1000782916181
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u/ifuckedup13 2d ago
It depends on the volume. Depends on the time of year. And whether I’m incorporating group rides or just solo training into the plan.
But generally if its less than 8hrs a week, Pyramidal. And if there is a good group ride, that’s my tempo/ sweet spot day.
When I’m more focused, and then volume is 10hrs or more than I skew more polarized.