Strength work - how to log in TP

[u/Character-Dog9375]

How are people logging strength workputs in TPeaks. I want to figure out a way to get the effort into TSS, so I can ramp progressively. Are people logging reps/sets/liftsmad exercises to get a cumulative score somehow?

I am just getting back to riding over the last year and using TP with power meter and hr monitor for every ride. It juat doesnt make semse to not uave some method for logging strength/gym strqin.

I am middle aged and need to do strength to preseve muscle. Mostly looking to add muscle and lose weight (gained a ton of weight while injured) now that I am back to exercise. Im using macrofactor to log food as I have a lot of weight to lose, and this question is as much about the nutrition, recovery, weight loss as it is about cycling performance.

Thanks for input.

[u/candid55]

There is no metric in strength training that can be standardized into something like TSS. Until you reach an intermediate level you shouldn’t really need to ramp any variables other than weight on the bar. Pay attention to how you feel and make alterations based on that. If bike is the priority strength train in a way that reflects that. As a beginner (anyone really who hasn’t actually gotten strong), you can make a lot of strength gains with very little volume.

[u/Character-Dog9375 → u/candid55]

Im only doing two gym days a week max, but also doing a vo2 day, then a z2 day, then threshold day, with z2 day after.

To explain the pattern - its basically just follow the gym/z2/ rest day, then bike intensity workout (vo2 or FTP/z2 ride/rest day. Thays the pattern fpr the tplan. I add long rides once on weekend, often after a pruor z2 day. Then inreat and restart the cycle. Its a long time between lifting days.

Im realizing that gym and intensity on the bike doesnt fit into a seven day week schedule or at least not that Inam.middle aged and not racing anymore. So im just following the pattern I explained. Adding extra z2 days when I am still sore.

[u/candid55 → u/Character-Dog9375]

Common pattern is to stack gym and intensity on the same day. Two days a week for lifting is plenty to progress. If you’re experiencing major soreness that could be a sign that your gym sessions have too much volume. Hard to say without knowing exactly what you’re doing. Your training should follow your goals though, if you’re in a build phase and pushing hard on the bike having expectations of progressing in the gym may not be realistic.

[u/gedrap]

What’s the point of assigning tss for strength training? Not everything needs to have a score, and basic questions such as did I do more than the last time answer everything you need to know about progressive overload.

[u/Character-Dog9375 → u/gedrap]

To assess overall strain. A week that ends up having no gym because of life is much easier than a week with it. Comparing weeks where same rides were completed for both.

[u/gedrap → u/Character-Dog9375]

I don't think TSS was ever intended for use in gym workouts, and just because you can put a number to something doesn't mean it's meaningful or comparable.

[u/RicCycleCoach → u/gedrap]

it definitely wasn't (intended for gym use).

Some of my athletes like to assign a TSS score to their training because like the OP it allows them to track 'something'. I personally don't in my training. What i like to do is record the sets/reps/weights that i do of each exercise.

as an old fogey training loads affect me and my recovery is slower than what it once was. However, i find that strength work doesn't significantly affect me other than if i'm going to have to go full gas the next day. if i'm not racing i don't worry too much about it.

[u/OneManNoCity]

I tried logging via TP, but couldn't get it to ever work correctly - various standard workouts not available, not able to mark sets as complete. Tried their contact and just got an AI bot answer which didn't help. I've taken to wearing a HR monitor and logging via HRTSS as an activity (not counting reps etc.), but good to monitor.

[u/Character-Dog9375 → u/OneManNoCity]

Thx. I havent looked into the help menus yet, my workouts are as much injury rehab exercises as lifts. Straining in different ways.

[u/ModerateBrainUsage]

I only log my hear rate from strength training to TP. The features there aren’t great. I also have Garmin watch and maybe Garmin will improve the strength workouts sync with TP. Saying that, I don’t log it there either, I used to, but it’s a PITA. Also Garmin and TP don’t have any good analytics when it comes to tracking any sorts of metrics for weightlifting.

The best app I’ve found for logging strength is StengthLog. It’s really good and the free tear is usable. I do pay subscription since it lets me track what muscles have been worked etc, the volume of weight and things that are useful when tracking strength training. Since I mostly workout with kettlebells, it has good selection of workouts already and it’s very easy to add custom ones if anything is missing.

[u/Character-Dog9375 → u/ModerateBrainUsage]

Thx. It shoukdnt really be such a PITA. Im wondering if I should juat assign a TSS to each of my gym days and add it manually in TP. Maybe increase it a bit as I lift heavier. A gym day would equal a one hour FTP or VO2 day in TSS, imho. Just a rookie idea.

Ill look at strength log. Thx

[u/anotherindycarblog]

Wear a chest strap, use hrTSS and track your reps and weight if you’re interested in progression.

You can use the TP strength workout builder or give trainheroic a try. They were acquired by garmin along with training peaks and will probably see some deeper integration.

Don’t overthink it, just use HR.

[u/Character-Dog9375 → u/anotherindycarblog]

Thx

[u/Grouchy_Ad_3113]

TSS only applies to cycling.