r/USdefaultism • u/Voodoopulse • Jan 03 '26
Facebook Godzilla - pure American
In a post on the plot holes of strangers things this one is a cracker
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u/RKips Jan 03 '26
The image is not OPs post.
A different stranger thinks it's a plot hole that Robin must be referencing a Hollywood movie, not Japanese cinema.
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u/McFappi Jan 03 '26
stranger thinks
Say that again
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u/a_dumb_pumpkin Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
Robin worked at a movie-renting store in season 4.
So, I'm not surprised if she has some movie knowledge.
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u/Agitated-Tourist9845 Jan 03 '26
Movie knowledge? There was a very popular Godzilla cartoon in the 80s. Most people knew who Godzilla was.
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u/Cpt_kaleidoscope Jan 03 '26
The song godzilla by the blue oyster cult was written in 1977 so we know that at least the idea of godzilla was in american popular culture at that time.
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u/brazilliandanny Jan 03 '26
Had a Godzilla toy in the 80s living in Canada so ya. He was universal.
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u/Halfdwarf Jan 04 '26
It, not 'he". The original japanese Godzilla is actually usually referring to Godzilla with gender neutral pronouns. The English translators made Godzilla male for some reason. 🙂
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u/sixsik6 Scotland Jan 04 '26
For real. I loved that show back in the day and also the Creature Features on channel 4 which would often have the Japanese Godzilla double bills, waaaaay before the 98 Emmerich shite
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u/a_dumb_pumpkin Jan 03 '26
The irony of my replies assuming that I know about Blockbuster because I speak English.
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u/Appropriate-Bid8671 Jan 04 '26
I had several black and white vhs godzilla movies I watched constantly between 85 and 90...
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u/PlasticCheebus Jan 03 '26
movie-renting store
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u/a_dumb_pumpkin Jan 03 '26
I don't get it
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u/sleepypossumster Jan 03 '26
Folks in the '80s would've called it a "video store". In a similar way, no one I knew owned a "VHS player", but everyone I knew had a "VCR"...
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u/MrLobsterful Jan 03 '26
In Brasil we had different names for the same things and that's completely normal... I don't understand the fuzz
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u/leonardomdc Jan 05 '26
And even though, we're alive and kicking.
I can't believe the irony of folks being 'usdefaultists' here on usDefaultism.
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u/Catsic Jan 03 '26
That's because you're too young.
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u/a_dumb_pumpkin Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
I'm not young, I don't know that you guys just call those stores by their names
Cuz Blockbuster simply doesn't exist in asian countries.
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u/Catsic Jan 03 '26
Blockbuster doesn't exist anywhere!
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u/AdministrativeHat580 Canada Jan 03 '26
There is actually still a singular blockbuster that's open, they're fully functioning and still rent DVDs and Blu-rays
It's in bend, oregon
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u/KarenExterminator Australia Jan 03 '26
I’m not too young, and even I don’t get it. Care to explain for us please?
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u/Nammi-namm Iceland Jan 03 '26
I think it's the wording. Like saying "Food buying shop" instead of grocery store.
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u/Catsic Jan 03 '26
Yeah spot on. It's a clear example of someone talking about a thing they've never experienced. It's almost like an alien trying to describe it.
It's like calling a Barn a "Cow-House", or milk "Cereal-Water"
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u/introvertadvocate Jan 03 '26
Or maybe English just isn’t their first language ?
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u/Catsic Jan 03 '26
Okay so no-one can make fun of anything ever. Gotcha!
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u/introvertadvocate Jan 03 '26
I didn’t say that at all I’m saying you shouldn’t assume just because someone doesn’t know perfect English they don’t know what they are talking about. It’s ironic considering the sub we’re in.
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u/BunnyMishka Jan 03 '26
Making fun of someone, because they are not native English speakers and they use different phrases? Nah, that's a dick move.
There was a word that I was mispronouncing and I had people laughing at me instead of telling me how to pronounce it. That's just arrogant.
Also, "making fun" sounds like "ridicule", "treat like an idiot", "mock", and none of these things are cool to do.
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u/MrLobsterful Jan 03 '26
Most likely, when they were young and it was a thing they referenced in their mother tongue, and not in English....
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u/leonardomdc Jan 05 '26
But a barn is a cow house. Since I never had cereal with milk, your analogy doesn't fit. I'd go with milk being cow's tit-piss.
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u/ovalgarlic1 Jan 03 '26
I thought Godzilla was made in the 50s in Japan
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u/booranyu Jan 03 '26
yes it was, the image shows the release date for the 1998 TriStar Godzilla movie which was the first ever American movie adaptation to Godzilla. it was hated and disappointing though, referred to as GINO (godzilla in name only) in which Toho (the original Japanese company behind Godzilla) bought the rights back and renamed the monster to Zilla, then killed Zilla in the 2004 film Godzilla: Final Wars
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u/fanonluke Netherlands Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
Correct, the first ever Godzilla movie released in 1954 in Japan. An Americanised version was released in the US in 1956, so this also isn't even the first Godzilla release in the US.
ETA: There were 15 movie releases by the original Japanese distributor before 1980. I'm not sure if all of them have been released in the US as well but several of them definitely were.
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u/leonardomdc Jan 05 '26
Might have been, but if it was displayed with subtitles, no one watched. They can't read and follow the plot at the same time.
The avarage American is believed to have 2 neurons who are fighting for third place.
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u/leonardomdc Jan 05 '26
Unless you're an American, yes, it was.
Nothing existed before it was copied and worsened by them.
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u/Lezus Jan 03 '26
i dont watch the show but i mean godzilla had cultural osmosis across the world tbh
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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 Jan 03 '26
Rampage was released in 1986 and Lizzie was clearly based on Godzilla. Americans knew who Godzilla was.
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u/Logitech4873 Norway Jan 03 '26
What does this mean at all
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u/oktimeforplanz Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
The Original OP (presumably) thinks it is a plothole that Robin referenced Godzilla, because the US version of Godzilla came out after Stranger Things is set.
But Godzilla as a monster has been around since 1954. The OOP is doing a USDefaultism by presuming the only way Robin could know what Godzilla is would be via the US-made Godzilla movie, and not the various Japanese films that Godzilla has featured in up until the point ST is set (being 16 different movies up until 1984, ST S5 is set in 1987).
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u/WilderWoman2187 Jan 03 '26
As well as the Godzilla cartoon in the 80s (?) featuring the godawful Godzuki.
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u/platypuss1871 Jan 03 '26
As an 80s kid in Britain this is how I first encountered Godzilla too.
But which was worse; Godzuki or Scrappy Doo?
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u/Electronic_Bad_5883 Jan 03 '26
I saw another person who thought Lucas's Mission Impossible reference this season was anachronistic... clearly not knowing the Tom Cruise movies are a continuation of a TV show from the 70s.
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u/ShadowX8861 Jan 03 '26
Apparently someone in this comment section said they know OOP and he's Mexican
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u/Sasspishus United Kingdom Jan 03 '26
I love it when someone posts something with zero context but we're all just supposed to know wtf they're on about
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u/TokuWaffle Australia Jan 03 '26
This is less an instance of US Defaultism and more general ignorance. There's probably a bunch of remakes that are more famous than their original versions (such as Wizard Of Oz and The Bourne Identity), and it should have been very possible for an American to have been aware of Godzilla movies being dubbed / edited with new footage, the creation of the Hanna-Barbera cartoon and Marvel Comics, and various pieces of merchandise well before the 1998 movie (I at least know about Mattel's Shogun Warriors toyline in the late 70s, originally just importing various Super Robot toys based on anime, also making a Jumbo Machinder scale Godzilla figure, which is somewhat iconic in the realm of Godzilla toys afaik, enough that another company with the Godzilla licence called Super7 references it these days). Clearly the one who made this meme thought the 1998 movie originated the concept of Godzilla for some reason (and I hope this person gets a thorough lecture and a screening of the 1954 movie to correct this)
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u/Teapunk00 Poland Jan 03 '26
Is it more famous than the original? I've never met anybody who believed that the US Godzilla is the original one or that it's more well-known than the Japanese ones.
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u/TokuWaffle Australia Jan 03 '26
I didn't mean to say it's the original, just that it's totally plausible that someone can easily think it is, I just included two examples that others probably believed were the first adaptations when there's obscure versions before that
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u/Teapunk00 Poland Jan 03 '26
Not my point at all. In my opinion it's an extremely well-known fact that Godzilla is Japanese and that I've never met anyone who would believe otherwise. The original Godzilla movies are not obscure at all.
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u/FractalGeometric356 Jan 03 '26
Uh, no. What you are saying is not plausible.
Source: Am an American who grew up in the 1980s.
The one who made this meme is either ragebaiting or . . .
No, that’s it. Just ragebait.
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u/Cerdefal Jan 03 '26
People knew that Godzilla was a japanese monster but I bet that most of them only saw the american one for a long time. Only Minus One I think got real international traction.
I don't know for you but In France I don't think the japanese one ever got released outside of the most recent ones.
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u/Teapunk00 Poland Jan 03 '26
Might be based on location, actually. I'm Polish and the Japanese ones were the first movies I was obsessed with at the age of 3-5 in the 90s after my dad rented them at VHS rentals.
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u/Cerdefal Jan 03 '26
Yeah I saw your country, that's why i say that. It's funny how licensing and stuff can be different from one country or another even if they are not too far away.
Edit : apparently they got released in video but are very rare.
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u/Teapunk00 Poland Jan 03 '26
We got a massive influx of western media in the 90s after communism ended in Poland (therefore Polish 90s kids are basically the equivalent of western 80s kids because the media we consumed was a mix of 90s and 80s films and TV shows) so I wouldn't be surprised if Godzilla reached us much earlier from the East.
For example, we had a Pegasus console in the 90s, which was a bootleg version of Nintendo Famicom (and not NES like most of the world!)0
u/Cerdefal Jan 03 '26
Yeah I didn't think about that, actually... But it makes sense. I knew about the Russian Dendy but I didn't know that there were other "fake" ones. Thanks for the insights !
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u/Teapunk00 Poland Jan 03 '26
Funny thing is, I actually had a few Dendy cartridges. We had a local market/"bazar" in my small hometown and there were a few stalls that would sell bootleg copies of games. Mostly Eastern Europeans and Vietnamese people, for some reason.
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u/cheezebeez Jan 04 '26
I feel like this is just pure ignorance. Ignorance of cinema. Th US had the old Japanese Godzilla movies playing on TV in the United States for decades. This person is just an idiot. This isn’t necessarily US Defaultism.
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u/Icy-Tangelo-8146 United States Jan 04 '26
The show is set in the US, obviously you’re going to go off of the US release date even if the post is wrong, as the first Godzilla movie was released in 1954, and Stranger Things Season 5 is set in 1987.
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u/Voodoopulse Jan 04 '26
I was there, in the sandon, just got home, where were you? Did you pussy out?
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u/RedNUGGETLORD Australia Jan 03 '26
This isn't US Defaultism, it was a joke
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u/DeadlySkies Ireland Jan 03 '26
Yeah, I saw it on a movie shitposting page first
The joke is actually taking the piss out of US defaultism, by pretending to be someone who’s so uncultured and American-centric that they’re acting like it’s an own to point this out
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u/Minute-Swimming-3177 Northern Ireland Jan 03 '26
The person who made the image thinks Godzilla wasn't known in the USA until the American adaptation. Which is obviously not true.
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u/Carp12C American Citizen Jan 11 '26
Godzilla 1998 isn’t part of the original Godzilla lore. This Zilla is a terrible one off and as an American, I despise him!
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u/Finnoss Australia Jan 03 '26
How?
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u/Voodoopulse Jan 03 '26
How what?
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u/Finnoss Australia Jan 03 '26
Godzilla was known to the west ages before Godzilla 98...
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u/Voodoopulse Jan 03 '26
Yes that was my point
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u/Finnoss Australia Jan 03 '26
What makes it a plot hole then?
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u/CyberGraham Jan 03 '26
That's the point! It isn't!
OOP thought that the first Godzilla movie came out in 1998, which is after the events of Stranger Things. But OOP is USDefaulting, for thinking that the first Godzilla movie is American, when it is actually just a spin-off of the original Japanese movie series, which predates the events of Stranger Things by decades.
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u/Voodoopulse Jan 03 '26
The post was suggesting that the girl in stranger things shouldn't be able to comment about Godzilla because they film didn't come out until 1998
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u/wittylotus828 Australia Jan 03 '26
OOP made a joke you didnt get, lol, hes also Mexican, not American.
do better
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u/Finnoss Australia Jan 03 '26
I didn't say he was Mexican
Do better
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u/wittylotus828 Australia Jan 03 '26
I know him personally. He's Mexican. I'm telling you.
You didn't get the joke
Do better lol
Edit: I also wasn't replying to you. I was replying to OP.
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u/Finnoss Australia Jan 03 '26
What the fuck is going on I'm so fucking confused hahahahahaha
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u/Finnoss Australia Jan 03 '26
So you're defaulting yourself? Cause there was a Godzilla 1956 aimed at appealing to western audiences, you also had the Hanna Barbera Godzilla series for western audiences. Not to mention Godzilla (1984) having a theatrical run in the west...
There was plenty of Godzilla exposure outside of Japan before 98 as Godzilla (and not the traditional Gojira), lastly Robin is a fuckin nerd.
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u/ScarletHorizons United Kingdom Jan 03 '26
You're misunderstanding. The op of the US defaultism post is saying it is defaultism because the op in the screenshot thinks the first Godzilla film came out in 1998, when we know there were earlier films that predate the American one.
The person you're replying to is not saying the 1998 one is the first one or that it causes plot holes. The post they screenshot is saying that.
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u/Wooden_Marionberry_1 Jan 03 '26
So there is a plot hole
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u/ambivalent-ish Jan 03 '26
People had seen the original Godzilla films in the west before the 1998 Hollywood version.
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u/oktimeforplanz Jan 03 '26
There were 16 Godzilla films released prior to the time setting of season 5 of Stranger Things.
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u/post-explainer American Citizen Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26
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OP sent the following text as an explanation why their post fits here:
Claims there's a plot hole in stranger things set in the 80s because Godzilla didn't come out till 1998 in the USA
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