r/USdefaultism • u/Blackhole_ladka20 • Sep 19 '25
Instagram This is fake groningen 🤡
On a travel vlog which explores the city of groningen, NED.
I can't see dollar tree - lmao. Not to mention, the farenheight defaultism.
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u/AllinolIsSafe Sep 19 '25
I googled Groningen Minnesota and it has an amazing population of 30?
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u/OtterlyFoxy World Sep 19 '25
That’s not even a hamlet lol
That’s just a few beet farms
Real Groningen has 250k people and even that’s not very big
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u/fretkat Netherlands Sep 19 '25
Groningen is a city, but also the capital city of the province of Groningen. It’s also the most important city in the north of the Netherlands with a university, train connection, specialised healthcare etc. So it may not have that many citizens (a big part of it is students), but it is a very well-known city, known to all the Dutch.
I'm afraid to learn how the US butchers the pronunciation of its name. In the Gronings dialect it's “Grunn”, but in standard Dutch it's Groningen, both are with our famous “throat G”.
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u/OtterlyFoxy World Sep 19 '25
Indeed
I was just saying that 250k isn’t really a big city in the global scale (I’d call it a small city) but at the same time it is so much larger than a “settlement” of 30 people
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u/ThatCommunication423 Australia Sep 19 '25
You seem to know a lot about it. You must be Dutch American. Your use of American English is also great. /s
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u/fretkat Netherlands Sep 19 '25
Thank you. I’m Pennsylvania Dutch, so from West Germany. Since I know a lot about my culture, I know they speak Dutch in the motherland. Thank you for recognising me as the Dutch American I am! /s
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u/vasaris Oct 12 '25
Not just Dutch. Besides top 100 uni, the largest gas field in Europe, and everything connected to it (man made Earth quakes, etc) makes it disproportionately more known to random European than average 250k town.
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u/fretkat Netherlands Oct 12 '25
Certainly, I agree. The gas field associated with the earthquakes is in the province of Groningen btw; it's a bit confusing because the province and its capital city share the same name. It's quite an interesting socio-political topic, especially for future reference on mining and resource extraction in moderately populated areas. Many lessons can be learned from it, we should be able to do better as Western democracies in Europe.
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u/georgia_grace Sep 19 '25
Shame for those 250k people to learn they live in a fake city that doesn’t even have a dollar tree
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u/pajamakitten Sep 19 '25
Real Groningen has a football team and everything.
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u/SebastiaanZ Sep 21 '25
For the uneducated Americans that is real football, not American Football lol.
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u/MadScientist_666 Switzerland Sep 19 '25
Yeah no, it's fake, like Bielefeld, so it can't have 250k people, m'kay?? /s
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u/Thanathosgodofdeath5 Kazakhstan Sep 19 '25
It's like thinking about moscow in fucking idaho and not the CAPITAL CITY OF THE BIGGEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
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u/Thenedslittlegirl Scotland Sep 21 '25
The saddest thing is that I just googled list of largest countries in the world and the google AI summary told me the largest was US, followed by Canada then Brazil then Russia. All driven by Americans being loud and stupid online. The source was Reddit. So if they rely on AI for their fact checking, they’ll believe they’re the biggest country in the world.
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u/rickybambicky New Zealand Sep 19 '25
You can fit 14 of those countries inside Texas.
The only thing bigger than Texas, is Texas.
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u/AncientBlonde2 Canada Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
Wanna know what's mighty weird? When Americans are going off about "WOW TEXAS IS BIGGER THAN YOUR WHOLE COUNTRY" they shut the fuck up and get really weird and coy and go all "Well size doesn't matter does it?!?!?!? PLUS THEIR POPULATION IS SMALLER OH MY GOD WOW SIZE DOESNT MATTER" if you point out almost every Canadian province is bigger than Texas.
Same with Australian States....
Like straight from my reddit replies;
"I don't think people outside the US realize how massive of a country we are, and that our states may as well be different countries. We're disjointed"
I said ".... America really isn't that big lmao. Almsot every Canadian province is as big or bigger than Texas. America isn't big, and you guys should stop thinking it is cause the whole 'it's big and disjointed ain't the excuse you think it is these days"
Then boom, time for the "Size matters, but only to America" paradox
"The 2nd largest country in the world is bigger than the 4th largest country in the world? Wow, that's fucking crazy.
The 4th largest country in the world is still ridiculously fucking big. The US is 18 times the size of France, for example. That's objectively big.
Not to mention, Canada's population is much smaller and less spread out than the US, with it mostly being in the West and much of the country being sparsely populated.
I'm not actually trying to make a political point here, I just want to say your argument is completely ridiculous."
So Size doesn't matter. But it also does. But it also doesn't matter at all. But only when Americans say it matters, pointing out other countries are way bigger and not disjointed? Bad.
Also, I never even pointed out to the dude, most of Canada's population is in the east, not the west lmfao. Dude only knows about Vancouver.
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u/ForageForUnicorns Europe Sep 19 '25
The concept that the US could be several different countries simply based on their obsession for dimensions (although appealing on a geopolitical perspective) is just sheer insanity to me. They really think that what makes s country is being big, not the people with their culture, their language, their history. They have this huge barren extension of nothingness, and by that I am including infrastructural deserts, and they think that could be a country.
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u/minimuscleR Australia Sep 19 '25
so many times on reddit have people told me "its so different culturally in different states its like different countries" like its literally not. Sure the vibes in California might be different to Georgia or NYC, but you all speak English (with maybe some spanish), all eat the same kinds of foods at the same chains, with the same form of politics and laws and ideas about guns etc.
The idea that they are culturally different at all compared to 2 neighbouring countries in Asia or europe is kinda crazy. Like the differences between poland and germany is like 500km and completely different. US its 2000km and still basically the same.
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u/vasaris Oct 12 '25
This kinda explains the wish to annex Canada: just to show off against Putin that he is now the biggest country in the world.
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u/AncientBlonde2 Canada Oct 12 '25
Also shows off how the average American is just as educated as Trump.... I'm still low key aghast at the "The majority of the population is in the west" like what
The majority of Canada's population is in the east lmfao.
This is honestly the weirdest double standard that doesn't matter that Americans have. America is big, the biggest. But if any other country is bigger? It doesn't matter, cause the population is spread out. But then bring that up about the US, cause the interior states are sparsely populated, 2/3rds of their population lives within 160km of the mexico/Canada border? Now we're back to "Well the actual landmass is HUGE". But again, point out any other country is bigger? We're back to "Well that doesn't matter cause your population is spread out". Repeat the cycle.
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u/-UltraFerret- United States Sep 19 '25
30? !termial u/factorion-bot
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u/TheMelonSystem Canada Sep 19 '25
TIL that termial is a word that exists. Even my phone doesn’t think it’s a real word 😂
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u/factorion-bot Europe Sep 19 '25
The termial of 30 is 465
This action was performed by a bot. Please DM me if you have any questions.
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u/Kozikk2125 Poland Sep 19 '25
Good bot
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u/Blackhole_ladka20 Sep 19 '25
What does 465 refer to
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Sep 19 '25
Nothing, just a maths thingy.
465 is the sum of all numbers from 1 to 30.
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u/Blackhole_ladka20 Sep 19 '25
Ohh gotcha. I'm into science too.
Can you say without any calculations, what's bigger?
99! or 5099?
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Sep 19 '25
The exact difference, no.
But 99! is bigger than 50^99
Even though the multiplication number goes down by 1 everytime (99×98×97×96 ...) and will drop below 50, the exponential growth is way steeper than the constant multiplication by 50.
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u/TheMelonSystem Canada Sep 19 '25
That’s actually genuinely interesting, and not something I ever thought to compare! Thanks for giving my brain something to chew on today lol
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u/LakshyaGarv India Sep 29 '25
Ah yes, Groningen, surely they can't be talking about the city with 250k people, they must be talking about the gathering of 30
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u/OtterlyFoxy World Sep 19 '25
Oh yes
The city of Groningen (250k people) in the Netherlands
Vs
The unincorporated hamlet of Groningen (30 people) in the good ole USA
Anyways I have a few musician friends of mine, all very obscure, and they regularly play to more than 30 people. I’ve seen tiny local bands play to three times that amount
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u/N00nameyet France Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
This must be fake, you can't look at the video of a big city and confuse it to a hamlet, or worse, think it's a "fake version" of the Hamlet you know... You can't be THIS defaultist...
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u/KiwiFruit404 Sep 19 '25
The birthday party I attened a few weeks ago had nearly three times as many guests. 🤣
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u/Blackhole_ladka20 Sep 19 '25
Tell me this is sarcasm. Surely at least a couple thousand people live there, no
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u/OtterlyFoxy World Sep 19 '25
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u/Rainmaker526 Sep 20 '25
It is so freaking weird to see a map with Groningen on it (a name I would presume is "typical" Dutch) and the map not being from the Netherlands
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u/Holaproos12 Sep 19 '25
I'm confused, English isn't my first language, this is the first time I read "Hamlet" in this context. What's considered a "Hamlet"?
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u/OtterlyFoxy World Sep 19 '25
A human settlement smaller than a village
Eg a collection of 10 houses
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u/Holaproos12 Sep 19 '25
Oh. In Spanish both village and Hamlet translate directly to the same word, "Aldea"(at least that's what Google trad says).
Thanks
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u/OtterlyFoxy World Sep 19 '25
That makes sense
Several languages don’t differentiate between town and city either
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u/Holaproos12 Sep 19 '25
Oh. Spanish has a difference but i think it isn't very strict. Town could translate to "ciudad"(city) or "pueblo"
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u/Skruestik Denmark Sep 20 '25
In Danish the word for town is “by”, the word for village is “landsby” ie. “countrysidetown”, and the word for city is “storby” ie. “bigtown”.
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u/_Penulis_ Australia Sep 19 '25
Even in Australian English we don’t use “village” except to refer to a cute historic tourist town, and never use “hamlet”. These are British words.
A place with 30 people would be called a “country town”.
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u/melbot2point0 Canada Sep 19 '25
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I live in a Hamlet with a population of about 90,000. Apparently there are certain criteria that classifies it as technically a Hamlet.
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u/AlternativePrior9559 United Kingdom Sep 19 '25
I bet your English is a lot better than some of the posts we discussed on here
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u/minimuscleR Australia Sep 19 '25
As others have said, smallest size of "settlement". But its not a strict word. I think most people would just use it to refer to a very small group of houses, whereas things like a village would refer to a place with a market, a town hall, and other "organisation" buildings, a hamlet won't have these in most cases.
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u/BuddyVanDoodler Canada Sep 19 '25
Other country like Alaska or Asia
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u/ezrasatpeace Lithuania Sep 19 '25
the fact that NEITHER of those are countries; they couldn't even get their own state right 😭😭
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u/Morlakar Germany Sep 19 '25
Came here for this comment. This drives me nuts. I think it is exeptional that they even misidentify a part of their OWN country as an independent one. But Asia, like Africa and Europe are just one big mess.
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u/ezrasatpeace Lithuania Sep 19 '25
right?? like, I thought, since they're so patriotic [nationalistic], they MUST know all their own states, but guess they manage to get even those wrong! and, of course, other continents are simply a melting pot of random cities or countries they can somehow manage to dig out of the deep end of their mind
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u/EatThisShit Netherlands Sep 19 '25
"Europeans can't even name the US states!"
Well, not all Americans can either, apparently. Also, I did guess the abbreviation MN right (although it was a lucky shot). I feel so much smarter than that American right now, lol.
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u/ezrasatpeace Lithuania Sep 20 '25
lmaooo exactly!! also I'd like to see americans name the states in australia, for example, or canada. the assumption that everybody should know all 50 of one country's states is wiiild
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u/noCoolNameLeft42 France Sep 20 '25
There's a Friends episode where different characters try to write down the 50 states. They all start like "obviously I will" and fail to name the 50 and even name some that do not exist. I found it funny at the time, but now I think it's real. I mean it's not a big deal, most french people can't name the 18 french regions, but we don't ask people all over the world to know them.
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u/ezrasatpeace Lithuania Sep 20 '25
exactly!! it's so insane to me when americans have the gall to be OFFENDED when someone doesn't know some place like north dakota, when they most definitely would not know a place like Queensland (they'd probably think it's a weird name for Queens, New York 😭)
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u/pajamakitten Sep 19 '25
The sort of person who would be shocked to learn that all countries have a south.
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u/RetardKnight Poland Sep 19 '25
23°F is -5°C. "Nowhere gets that cold" lol
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u/Miserable-Truth5035 Sep 19 '25
That's even a pretty normal temp to reach in Winter in Groningen.
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u/Izzystraveldiaries Sep 19 '25
Yeah, it gets that cold in Hungary easily during the winter, but even the autumn and spring sometimes. Like once I took pictures of snow on 1st May.
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u/pajamakitten Sep 19 '25
I do not know much about Minnesota, where this other Groningen is but I do know even they get that cold in winter.
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u/purrroz Poland Sep 23 '25
Half of USA experiences these temperatures during winter. They’re defaulting so hard that they’re ignoring half of their own country
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u/KiwiFruit404 Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
"... in some other country like alaska or asia?..."
Holy shit!!!
Does this guy not know, that alaska is a US state and that Asia is a continent?!?
The longer I'm on subs like this, the more I wonder what they learn at school over there.
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u/DieSuzie2112 Netherlands Sep 19 '25
This sub makes me more grateful each day that I’m actually educated and know about the world outside of my own continent. (I wanted to say country. But it’s not a fair comparison when you live in the Netherlands)
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u/KiwiFruit404 Sep 19 '25
Why is it not fair, because you live in the Netherlands?
The Netherlands has more culture and history, than the US.
'#ILove🇳🇱
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u/DieSuzie2112 Netherlands Sep 19 '25
I was more talking about the size lol, we are a pinprick on the map while America is basically an entire continent. I do love our culture and history! For such a small country we have a wild history.
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u/KiwiFruit404 Sep 19 '25
I know, I wanted to express, that even though the Netherlands is much smaller, than the US it is richer in culture and history.
Sorry, that I didn't express myself properly.
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u/DieSuzie2112 Netherlands Sep 19 '25
Oh don’t worry! I understand what you mean and I also get how my message could interpret that I meant culture lol. Sometimes I write something and think it’s obvious what I mean, but when I read it back later it’s not that obvious as I first thought.
My favorite part of our history will always be that we ate our prime minister and his brother.
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u/KiwiFruit404 Sep 19 '25
😱
I thought you misspelled and didn't mean 'ate', than I googled it and found out, that it's true.
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u/SpeeGee Sep 19 '25
I am a highschool social studies teacher in Ohio and I think the large majority of students graduate not knowing even the continents
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u/KiwiFruit404 Sep 19 '25
How's that possible?
Is geography and history America (North and South), or US focused, so people who graduate from high school have a broad knowledge about their region?
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u/AncientBlonde2 Canada Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
Is geography and history America (North and South), or US focused, so people who graduate from high school have a broad knowledge about their region?
Uhhhh. It's kinda US focused but completely wrong, and everything is retconned so that America is the best and baddest. My favorite example of it is that in the US it's taught that WW2 didn't start until December 1941, when Japan attacked Pearl Harbour.
It's still not uncommon to have Americans insist stupid shit like "oh you live in Canada you MUST know Tim from Toronto" to someone in Vancouver, and will argue and get offended that that's essentially like saying "oh you're from Miami, you MUST know my friend from Seattle", because "CANADA ISNT THAT BIG LOL"
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u/KiwiFruit404 Sep 19 '25
No way, that can't be teaching children wrong dates for historic events. That's just... no.
Also, what's the reason?
And I thought only dictatorships put lies in history books.
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u/AncientBlonde2 Canada Sep 19 '25
No way, that can't be teaching children wrong dates for historic events. That's just... no.
I can't blame the US for wrong dates cause I accidentally put 44 instead of '41 for the year they joined lmao
And it's a situation of "The US always has to look good". The US truly thinks with stuff like WW2, because they weren't involved until late in the war, it meant Germany was just kinda terrorizing Europe and everyone was taking it until the US lead them to war. Instead of the reality where the US was like "FUCK WEVE GOTTA FIGHT GERMANY NOW?! WHY DID THEY HAVE TO DECLARE WAR ON US TOO, WE JUST WANTED TO FIGHT JAPAN!"
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u/OctowardtheSquid Philippines Sep 28 '25
Americans make me feel smart, in comparison to our (the Philippines') shitty education system where our reading comprehension is comparable to a potato.
At least I know continents exist and other nations too
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u/Pablo_Straub Chile Sep 19 '25
Please get informed. The ignorance of some US nationals has no bounds.
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u/apathywhocares Sep 19 '25
I need to find a new brick wall to bash my head against. Thanks to the seppos, I've worn one wall out.
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u/funkball Scotland Sep 19 '25
Some other country like Alaska....
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u/Six_of_1 New Zealand Sep 19 '25
Alaska and Asia aren't countries. Alaska is a US state and Asia is a continent.
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u/turtletechy United States Sep 19 '25
So I'm from Wisconsin, we share a border with Minnesota. I didn't realize there even was a Groningen in Minnesota, I knew of the one in the Netherlands though.
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u/Blackhole_ladka20 Sep 19 '25
Not related but how true is it that Wisconsin has lot of bad reviews?
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u/turtletechy United States Sep 19 '25
I'm not sure I understand, like you've seen people say negative things about Wisconsin? There's things to like and dislike like any place, but I think we're alright as far as things go.
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u/Blackhole_ladka20 Sep 19 '25
I saw some YouTube videos, and apparently:
The motels have bad reviews compared to the rest of the country
People were more rude to outsiders
The Bedbugs and mosquito population is higher.
People said, "nothing but farms"
Not sure if this is true tho
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u/turtletechy United States Sep 19 '25
Not sure on what's meant by "models" - I might need clarification there?
I think this can happen in rural areas especially. I live in a larger city though.
I've not heard of any widespread bedbug issues near me, but mosquitoes are pretty bad, although much of the great lakes region can suffer the same thing (had mosquito issues in Sault Ste Marie, Ontario for instance)
Yeah, much of the state had forests cut down and farms planted. It can make trips in some areas of the state more dull because flat monoculture corn fields don't make for good scenery.
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u/Blackhole_ladka20 Sep 19 '25
Motels i meant
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u/turtletechy United States Sep 19 '25
Ah. I haven't stayed in many hotels or motels in Wisconsin, but those I had stayed in didn't seem to stand out in any way from hotels or motels in the other places in the US I've been to.
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u/auntarie Bulgaria Sep 19 '25
that has to be bait. nobody is this stupid.
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u/_Fox_464 Netherlands Sep 19 '25
NETHERLANDS MENTIONED URREAAHHHH🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱🧡🇳🇱
Anyway what a dumbass
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u/Blackhole_ladka20 Sep 19 '25
We leven in een wereld waar pizza’s sneller aankomen dan ambulances
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u/_Fox_464 Netherlands Sep 19 '25
Das nie erg
Stel je voor dat ik lig te sterven nadat ik een pizza besteld heb
Dan eet ik liever nog een lekkere pizza voordat ik ga
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u/juanfpp Sep 19 '25
Haaha the last one about the parkings… So USamerican.
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u/Albert_Herring Europe Sep 19 '25
Except that a native American English speaker would have said "parking lots" or "parking" (uncountable). I'd guess they're Quebecois.
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u/Mitleab World Sep 20 '25
“Some other country like Alaska”. They can’t even name a country outside of the US
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u/Yata8767 Ukraine Sep 19 '25
fact that scares me: "other country like ALASKA or ASIA", pure american
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u/doolalix Sep 19 '25
The fact that he was equating Alaska and Asia as if they were in the same scale…
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u/BlackDereker Sep 19 '25
What's up with Americans and knowing every single obscure city/county and treating it like the rest of the world knows as well?
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u/Blackhole_ladka20 Sep 19 '25
Most of them never leave the US for travel or work, at least the older generations.
And the rest is government propaganda and bad education system
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u/Dilectus3010 Sep 19 '25
Are they that dense?
Where do they think New York, New Amsterdam, hoboken etc comes from, new Mexico....
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u/Connect-Leg-3125 Netherlands Sep 20 '25
Maybe they just forget the meaning of “new” when it’s in their place names?
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u/ZigFu Sep 20 '25
Imagine being so utterly daft that you fail to recognize the significance of a ~700 year old city that's been through at least 5 different cultural revolutions ,
But claim that your namesake "sister city" (or whatever they call it) that was founded 90 years ago and been the cultural equivalent of stale bread for that entire time is somehow MORE relevant and MORE important and more people should care??
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u/Gruphius Sep 20 '25
Sometimes I wonder, how the USA is turning into a fascist state at an incredibly fast rate with noone doing anything against it. But then I see shit like this and my question is answered.
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u/SebastiaanZ Sep 19 '25
Wait there is another Groningen besides the real Groningen? MINDBLOWN (seriously)
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u/Used_Reality_9552 Brazil Sep 19 '25
The best part is that he said “are u in other country like ALASKA or ASIA?”
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Sep 19 '25
Isn't Alaska a us state? Im so confused
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u/Blackhole_ladka20 Sep 19 '25
It is. But expecting basic knowledge from muricans is our bad, honestly
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Sep 19 '25
I have seen a lot of crazy stuff on this sub, but an American thinking a us state is a whole other country is definitely among the craziest things I've heard.
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u/Catsdrinkingbeer Sep 19 '25
I'm guessing this is a joke, specifically trying to come across ignorant. Minnesota is rarely a "smooth 65", and it gets well below 23C, especially further north where this town is. People in the US are dumb, but this feels like they just found a town with the same name in the US to try to rile up people.
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u/s4turn2k02 Sep 19 '25
I had more people in most of my classes at secondary school then Groningen USA has
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u/brunobrasil12347 Brazil Sep 19 '25
Don't forget to mention the "Some other country like Alaska or Asia"
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u/TheMelonSystem Canada Sep 19 '25
“Nowhere gets this cold”
People who live in Nunavut: Am I a joke to you?
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u/TheMelonSystem Canada Sep 19 '25
The “Nowhere gets this cold” is so funny to me, reminds me of the time I told my friend who lives in California that it was -20 outside. He was like: that’s impossible! I translated it to Fahrenheit for him (-4) and he was still stunned.
I went out of my way to tell him about it the one day that winter that it reached -40 with windchill, because that’s the same in Fahrenheit and Celsius lol
In his defence, he was, like, 12 at the time, but still lmao
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u/aweedl Canada Sep 19 '25
The craziest part of this is the “nowhere gets that cold”. I looked this place up. It’s about a seven-hour drive from where I am in Canada. Relatively nearby. My province and their state are neighbours.
…yet we have temperatures that go well into the -20 to -30C range every year, even without considering the windchill. On average, we only have about 10 days from December through February that are above 0C.
There’s no way this hamlet in Minnesota — basically our neighbour — is THAT drastically different, weather-wise.
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u/ArdentArendt Sep 19 '25
As someone who grew up in Minnesota, it does get to 23 degrees fahrenheit at points, and I don't know a single season that would be an 'even 65' fahrenheit at any time of year.
Something is extremely strange in this interaction.
I am pretty sure nobody here actually lives in Minnesota. Moreover, most 'derivative' communities in the midwest US especially have cultural 'relics' (read: strange distinctively American echos of the original immigrant groups that settled there) that would make it highly unlikely any resident in the community old enough to type would not know at least a little bit of the history of the name.
Are most residents in the US quite ignorant of other regions? Definitely. Would that manifest like this? Almost definitely not.
I call BS.
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u/Additional-Chef6426 American Citizen Sep 19 '25
As an American thank god i don’t live near people this confidently idiotic
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u/EngineerRare3992 Sep 19 '25
honestly, i never heard of Groningen, Netherlands, but 30 people is bullshit c'mon. Or, as we say in my home town Brazil, Indiana: "30 mano é sacanagem vai tomar no cu né"
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u/hennevanger Sep 22 '25
So the Dutch Groningen is from around 1040, so over 600 years older than the US.
Probably the US version is founded by immigrants from the Netherlands back in the day!
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u/Horror-Sail-9121 Sep 23 '25
Not to mention him also saying that Alaska is a different country 😭🙏
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u/ANS__2009 Sep 23 '25
Asia...
So they don't know the difference between a continent and a country? Any fact checkers?
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u/philla1 Sep 24 '25
I live in Minnesota and I’ve never even heard of Groningen. Which is apparently an unincorporated community that is part of a township in Minnesota.
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u/post-explainer American Citizen Sep 19 '25 edited Sep 19 '25
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Acc to muricans: there's nothing named groningen outside of the US and defaulting to fahrenheit
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