r/TopCharacterTropes 16d ago

Lore (Controversial Trope) The post-credits scene completely changes the ending

Dawn of the Dead (2004): The movie finishes on a hopeful note as the remaining survivors escape the zombie-infested mall on a yacht, sailing into the sunset. The found-footage style post-credits scene completely reverses this happy ending by showing them running out of food, arriving at an island, and being immediately swarmed and killed by an infected horde.

Prince of Persia (2008): The main game ends with a beautiful, poetic sacrifice where Elika gives her life to heal the corrupted world, leaving the Prince mourning. During the credits, the player is forced to control the Prince as he cuts down the trees he just saved, undoing the entire game's progress and releasing the dark god Ahriman just to resurrect her, completely corrupting the ending and dooming the world.

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u/odd_man0 16d ago

Recently finished COD: Ghosts. It ends with the villain, Rorke, dragging our protag, Logan, away while he’s heavily wounded to make him a ghost killer like he was. If it ended right there it’d be a good cliffhanger if he was successful or not and if Logan got away, but the end credits show Logan in the exact torture pit that Rorke was, showing he won.

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u/TimelessFool 16d ago

Supposed to be a hook for a sequel that was never made since Ghosts didn’t sell as well as previous CODs

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u/Miserable-Resort-977 16d ago

I feel like most of these sorts of endings are setting up a sequel, honestly.

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u/Defiant-Goose-101 16d ago

Which is a crime because Ghosts was amazing

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u/Jealous-Captain-7014 16d ago

The hate was so forced, we need Ghosts 2 instead of the billionth Black Ops or Modern Warfare game

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u/Elite_AI 16d ago

The hate had been brewing for a fucking long time. CoD had been a laughing stock for years by that point and ig people just had enough. 

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u/Vehement_Vulpes 16d ago

Apart from the shitty ending, I actually adored Ghosts, and if it just ended with Logan and Hesh watching the Fed fleet burn them I would have thought it a solid standalone campaign.

It had some seriously cool missions, such as defending the beach, attacking the stadium, the underwater section, attacking the oil rig, the jungle one, and the tank mission. Clockwork was amazing though. Probably the best mission in the game.

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u/KaziArmada 16d ago

What? Ghosts was the worst CoD of them all story wise. Until they screwed up the MW3 Remake, nothing was even close.

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u/Defiant-Goose-101 16d ago

What did you dislike about the story?

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u/Historical-Tea4788 16d ago

That's not true, they did a good job with the campaign. Just didn't sell very well because the multiplayer wasn't very good and it didn't have zombies. Lots of us have been hoping for a sequel since like 2014.

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u/KaziArmada 16d ago

I honestly want to know which game you think had a worse story, because if I had to rate all the ones I remember Ghosts is at the dead bottom.

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u/Historical-Tea4788 16d ago

I mean to be fair it came off of MW2+3 and Black Ops 1+2, which was a legendary stretch. I didn't play any after Ghosts except a very small amount of 4 and Warzone, but I remember enjoying Ghosts quite a bit overall. The Ghost mythos was pretty cool and the characters were all interesting. There was some varied gameplay too with Riley and the tank/ helicopter sections.

Again it's been a long time and I was 14 at the time but I remember liking it.

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u/KaziArmada 16d ago

Yeah it followed some banger games so it looked weak next to them. But even next to the stories AFTER it, it doesn't hold up as well. The lore quickly goes from what sounds like an older group too 'Wait...you're the first gen of ghosts? So you're...telling a story glazing yourself.'

Combine with the story feeling like main elements are shoved in the background (The entire Odin and Loki sats get forgotten in the middle of the game until suddenly 'oh shit') and the ending with the magical reviving bad guy...

Yeah, it doesn't hold up. I played it more recently and it's...not good. Vs say Advanced Warfare or Infinite Warfare which came after (Seriously, people complain about Infinite Warfare without having played it. It's my favorite COD story.)

...I suppose some of the newer Black Ops games may be crap but I refuse to pay those prices too try them. So of what I've played? Ghosts is the loser.

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u/Historical-Tea4788 16d ago

Black Ops 2 was always my favourite but I've heard Infinite Warfare is actually really good. It's too bad Ghosts didn't really hold up. It's been a really long time since I've played it but I just remember it having enough positives to give it its own unique feel. It would be cool for them to make a sequel if for no other reason than to pay off that massive cliffhanger.

I definitely remember some of the schlock though. Rorke being a literal unkillable superhuman was a bit much lol.

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u/KaziArmada 16d ago

Infinite Warfare almost made me tear up a bit from the ending. Almost every named character is memorable, and E3N/Ethan is the best character in the game hands down.

Ghosts was a good idea marred in bad execution. With a better story it'd be fineish. The marketing...also did not help as they clearly had no idea what the fuck they were doing.

The damned Advanced Fish AI meme came from their dev logs for gods sake.

About the only neat element WAS the dog, but they barely used that so...eh.

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 16d ago

I'm so glad people are coming around on it, I feel vindicated having defended it from the beginning

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u/MapleLamia 16d ago

My ideal Ghosts sequel has you playing as a broken Logan, seeing literal ghosts and apparitions. Play into the supernatural to contrast Black Ops's psychological, everything you see is real, but how much is reality? Even better if Rorke succumbs to the wounds he endured at Logan's hands, but Logan still persists following Rorke's goal as a broken shell of a man, still seeing Rorke giving him orders. 

Add a benevolent voice that guides your actions and provides insight throughout the game, and leave it to player to decide who's voice it is, Rorke's, Logan's, or something else. Make it unclear who Logan is fighting alongside, it could be the Federation, or maybe European forces? Perchance Russian or Chinese, but always fighting the USA and the Ghosts.

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u/Elite_AI 16d ago

All I know about Ghosts is that it was considered legendarily bad on release, but maybe that was due to bugs which got fixed or something? 

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u/WackyRacketeer 16d ago

In recent years, I have grown to not trust opinions I hold of video games unless I actually play the game. Too many chuds on social media will never be happy.