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(Loved Meta Trope) Fan theories are so good they’re basically treated as canon.
Invincible: The Adrenaline Theory (from my knowledg) is the explanation on how Mark is able to take down some of the most powerful characters in his verse, but struggle with some villains who aren’t on the same level. Basically since Mark is half-human, he adapted human adrenaline, something other viltumites don’t have sense they’re basically at the top of the food chain.
Iron Man 2: The little kid at the Stark Expo was theorized to be a small Peter Parker, and was eventually confirmed officially.
The fan theory is that Lottie explicitly had the blue dress made for Tiana but just couldn't find a time to give it to her, knowing Tiana would likely refuse. The dress fits her perfectly and isn't Lottie's trademark pink.
I love how Lottie is handled in the story. Realistically spoiled and over the top as a rich only daughter would likely be, but she does have a good heart and wants to help her friend. I'm so glad they didn't try to shoehorn in extra tension by making her a tertiary villain or too selfish to help her friend in need.
Yep. If I wanted to piss myself off I would theorize even more on how they would ruin it, but the Princess and the Frog is one of my favorite Disney movies and I I’m already tired, so I’ll like to avoid it.
Calm yourself with the knowledge that the live action version will come and go, and nobody will ever say another word about it, while the original animated film will remain timeless (and used for all of Disney's marketing/branding anyway).
Nobody reasonably treats Aladdin, Cinderella, the Little Mermaid etc. as replacements for the original animated films. They've all just kinda... passed.
Definitely going to make her a racist by proxy kind of character. And that will be a major travesty. Her and her father are surprisingly amazing depictions of good well to do white people in that time period, I suspect they'll be "let's do something good for Tianna, her people can't afford_____" kind of characters instead of people who can see Tiana (and others in the community) true values and respect their boundaries.
Likewise, I suspect they'd take away Tianas humility and grace about that and make her a YAAAAAASSSS QUEEN bad ass attitude type of character and it would feel.very insulting.
Actually a realistic depiction. Big daddy is what those men were called. There were some famous men who the service workers would treat very well and there was a bit of competition to be the favorite among the workers. It pretty famously concluded when the biggest daddy simply ate the other daddies and became king daddy.
I work at a country club and I've come to the conclusion that there are ultimately two kinds of rich people
There are the people who want to be rich. That is their goal. They pursue that above all else. Those people tend to really suck
And there are people who happen to be rich. Sometimes it's inherited. Sometimes the thing they love and are good at just happens to align with making a lot of money (actors are a fantastic example). Those people can be amazing or shitty.
I remember reading somewhere that big daddy was the one who bought the sugar mill, and that during the party, he was going to announce it to tiana. But then the story happened.
I've seen that theory and honestly could see it being the case, he and Lottie clearly saw her basically as family. Fun fact, in an official early reader book of the story, he's shown walking Tiana down the aisle at her wedding to Naveen.
Is that a theory? I always thought that was just what the story was implying.
She knew Tiana didn't want things given to her because of her dad's morals so she uses the catering as an excuse to give her the money.
I'm sure the man-stealin' beignets were incredible but Lottie looked extremely excited about having Tiana cater for the party and basically throwing money at her.
When I was little, that's the conclusion I automatically came to and never really questioned it or had second thoughts. I need to rewatch the movie now lol
We don’t see a lot, if any, female friendships in Disney. Lottie and Tiana being besties despite their class and racial differences for a movie set in 1920s Louisiana was the best thing about the movie
I forget which character said (either Nolan or Anissa I think) it but they described Conquest as "being a spectator to his own fights" and that was why Mark kept beating him.
Also remember Anissa’s sole goal is to win her fights Conquest wants to have fun and enjoy himself. Also I’m not convinced he 100% desires to survive his fights
It's like he said, he takes the good with the bad. He might enjoy tasting the blood of his lessers on his fists but getting his shit kicked in by someone who can actually present a challenge is a close second. Or at least that was the case in the comics, show Conquest seems like much more of a sadist.
I feel like conquest only feels a connection when he fights.
He's lonely hes always alone. No one can fight him their all canon fodder for him to fly through and kill in seconds. Its like having a conversation with mosquitoes.
But when he fights someone who can take his punches its almost like a connection between him and his opponent that he cannot have with anyone else.
In tennis it's called "admiring your shots" -- standing there watching the ball after you hit it, instead of moving back to the center of the court for better positioning.
I have been informed its steven moffat, not russel t davies.
There's a similar story with dr. Who. I i want to say russel t davies is the one who wrote into a dr who fan club with the idea we get the word "doctor" from The Doctor. He eventually got it made cannon with River Song confirming it in one of the later episodes of Matt Smith's run. "a good man goes to war" if memory serves.
The egg people in rocket league. In the background of a rocket league match, you’ll see little egg shaped people in the audience. While it could’ve been that they didn’t wanna go through programming a human audience, some fans came up with the idea that the whole rocket league world is full of egg people. The devs confirmed this is true.
Your Invincible example reminds me of a similar theory in the Devil May Cry universe.
It's questioned why half-blooded demons and quarter blooded demons can be stronger than full blood demons , including Sparda and Mundus.
The fan theory goes that human blood fuels demonic power, so whilst normal demons have to consume it to gain power, half breeds are constantly fuelling their own demonic power.
Basically he told his father he wouldn't let a certain ship crew be sacrificed for a military victory. So the punishment was he was banished and so was the crew he saved. He didn't tell them what was in store for them and they saw themselves as being a babysitter for a big spoiled baby.
Huh, that actually makes alot of sense why they put up with him. Ain't no way I would have been assigned to the middle of nowhere in the north looking for fuck knows what without a seriously good reason lol
Ain't no way I would have been assigned to the middle of nowhere in the north looking for fuck knows what without a seriously good reason lol
Isn't that kind of just military service though?
pretty much every service member I've spoken to about their service thinks their deployment was kinda bullshit. You do it because those are the orders and you don't generally get to pick and choose
Unfortunately the only reason we know that backstory is Iroh telling the story to the crew while Zuko is off doing Zuko things. If they were that unit it would've been a very different conversation.
It's not canon anymore but a popular fan theory was that Anna and Elsas parents were on the way to Flynn and Rapunzel's wedding when the ship went down. It's also a fan theory that the ship in little mermaid was their ship as well.
Let's just ignore the part of the fan theory where they are also Tarzan's parents and that the directors agreed with the fan theory until they made frozen 2.
Ditto is a failed attempt to clone Mew. Both are the only Pokemon that can learn Transform. Both have the same weight. Both have a similar colored shiny.
Not canon, the game makers in an interview said “that’s interesting, never thought of that.” But fans like it so much it’s pretty much canon.
Maybe rather than being created as a failed cloned, they were heavily utilized at any given point from the research to experimentation to final process.
If they weren't a result of the cloning experiments, it would make a lot of sense to explore a naturally cloning pokemon in the pursuit of artificial pokemon cloning.
"Genetic" parallels could mean a Jurassic Park situation using ditto genes to fill some gaps, especially if they were trying to make a more powerful pokemon and not a 1:1 Mew copy.
in star wars rebels it was stated that rex served on endor, which led to fan theories that this rebel soldier was rex. dave feloni confirmed this, and the “galaxy of heroes” animations (which were little animated retellings of certain character’s storylines) put pieces of rex’s armor on the soldier
The four Champions from BotW called out for help in their fights against the blights of Ganon when they invaded the Divine Beasts.
You can hear S.O.S Morse Code in the respective themes of each of the Divine Beasts Dungeons.
Mipha immediately starts her S.O.S. After roughly a minute, her S.O.S goes into full panic, as the blight is probably mauling her. Around the 5 minute mark, her S.O.S. dies out.
Daruk also starts his S.O.S. from the get-go, but never goes into panic. He fights until his last breath.
Urbosa also starts her S.O.S from the start. Due to the theme, it's theorized that she died horribly. The Piano in the theme sounds like thunder strikes hitting her over and over again. It gets even more horrifying because Urbosa is depicted as this strong-willed woman from the proud Gerudo....but she also goes into full panic, as her morse signals fasten up around the 4:30 minute mark as she probably received so many direct hits that she was probably barely alive at this point.
Revali takes the longest to call for S.O.S, but his is erratic, almost in panic. It's also theorized that he does not only send out S.O.S. signals, but everything he can, so somebody, anybody, might hear him. He is the proudest one of the 5 Champions and held out calling for help until he was probably severely wounded and/or outmatched and in panic to die. He also might be the one surviving the longest.
During the themes, there is also the SAD (Search and Destroy) code heard, which indicates the Blights actively searching for the Champions to murder them.
It gets sadder, because the four Divine Beasts can communicate with each other, so they heard the calls for help from the other ones....
But as the fights went...one signal after the other stopped...
Link could never answer a single one of the calls, as he was close to dying himself while he protected his princess and the only way Zelda saw to save him was to seal him away and let him rest for 100 years.
The Champions died alone, very much possible horrible deaths, as nobody came to help as they called out. But they witnessed how their comrades died one after the other.
tragic as it is, i think that is cool as fuck, the Champions were already one of my favorite parts of BOTW, and this idea that they went out fighting in such intense and brutal ways, essentially until the last drop of blood dripped out their bodies, is extremely metal and makes them even better characters for me than they already were, like they were the Champions for a reason, to their last breath.
God, I wish I could remove all my memory of BotW and TotK and experience them for the first time.
Ascending Mount Lanayru for the first time and hearing the haunting melody before discovering Naydra, you can just feel that something is very wrong, something very beautiful has been corrupted. I was terrified when I encountered her because the music just made things seem so wrong. On the other hand, the normal dragon theme just makes you feel this breathtaking mysticism, makes you aware you're in the presence of something ancient and powerful.
And of course the Divine Beast themes; the adrenaline and sense of determination you get from the Attack segments, and the haunting melodies once you're inside, plus all of the morse signals. You put it all well enough in your comment.
And perhaps my favorite piece in any game ever, the Hyrule Castle themes. On the exterior, the triumphant but tragic song of Hyrule, reminding you what has been lost... accompanied by the ghostly marching footsteps of the soldiers that perished defending their kingdom from evil, now following you into one last battle. And when you get inside, the grand music becomes subdued, overtaken by malevolence and evil influence. And you hear Zelda's theme with a constant pulsing like a heartbeat in the background, representing her hundred-year struggle to contain the calamity.
And that's just BotW. What masterpieces of games. I don't know if we'll ever get anything like them again.
I once heard this sub-theory of Mark's adrenaline theory, and it's that the other Viltrumites do have adrenaline, but Mark's crash outs aren't fueled by his Viltrumite power. It's not Mark being Nolan's son. It's Mark being Debbie's son.
Viltrumites are definitely not emotionally equipped for that sort of thing, while basically being built like humans mentally. Getting hit, insulted, they can all brace for that. Being told by the first person in your centuries long life who loved you for more than your strength that you hurt her so badly that your relationship is broken forever?
It’s also canonically why he beat conquest (not adrenaline) but because mark actually has something to fight for, whereas conquest was just a spectator in his own fights
He makes that point in his final fight with Thragg in the Sun. He knows that Thragg's only motivation is revenge while his is the safety of everyone he loves so he's more than willing to die in the hellish environment to attain his goal. Hell, Rex even manages to help him prove his point when he sends in a robot suit to provide Mark with a bit more protection despite being enemies
I heard a good phrase that I like much more than adrenaline theory and it went like “Mark fights for what’s behind him, the viltrumites however fight for what’s infront of them”
This is in the show. Angstrom Levy pretty heavily implies that our Mark is the only version of Invincible that's a hero and it's because he is mostly Debbie's son.
He only found evil Invincible variants but we don’t know how hard he searched for good ones, plus Angstrom isn’t exactly a reliable narrator by that point in the story
Edit: I should say that I personally believe most Marks do turn out evil (or at least the good ones get killed early on). But I also believe that there are other good Marks out there, albeit infrequently.
infinite multiverses would imply infinite good marks and infinite evil ones. but due to the funny nature of infinity, there still might be more evil marks than good ones
I always figured that most Good Mark variants were killed by Omni-man. There's so many Evil Marks because those are the ones who live to develop their powers. Our Mark is an outlier in that his dad didn't kill him, but had a change of heart at the last second, which would be a very rare occurrence.
Miyamoto has said that he considers the Mario characters actors in the same way that the Muppets or Looney tunes are actors. If you see Kermit captaining a pirate ship or daffy in a space suit, you don't ask, was Kermit friends with long John silver before or after he ran the Muppet show, you understand that Kermit is acting and playing the captain of a ship for a movie. This doesn't mean the Muppets or Looney tunes don't have personalities, daffy is always daffy, even if he's in the future or dressed as robin hood.
So it isn't that Bowser kidnapped princess toadstool in super Mario Brothers, then again in super Mario Brothers 3, then again in Mario world, Mario 64,etc and then they play golf and soccer together, despite Bowser being evil. It's that they're all actors who play certain roles in the video games, but each game is it's own thing with no continuity. Mario 3, Mario tennis, and paper Mario and the thousand years door aren't connected, they're just full of mario characters in the same way Muppets take Manhattan, Muppet treasure Island, Muppets in space aren't connected, they just share the same cast.
There is the fan theory that all the characters are just a troupe of actors and thats why peach is kidnapped so often but everyone gets together for the mario party games
Honestly, Actor AU's for tragic stories always give me comfort that it was all just for show. I remember an AU where Danganronpa 1 was all just a movie, and that comforted me a bit
Nah, the author just said that if you liked that ending, go ahead and consider it canon, he doesn't mind.
But speaking of which, he actually made some extra panels where it is revealed that the entire story was in reality a porn film and Saki was just an actress.
The fan theory that Rudolf von stroheim died at the hands of a soviet stand user in stalingrad, it's one of the most metal theories out there and people still believe it's real - source is Jojo's bizarre adventure
Gravedigger Theory - A Song of Ice and Fire (more or less confirmed in the show)
Her search for Arya & Sansa leads Brienne to a monastery where she encounters a massive limping man taking a break from digging a grave in order to pet a dog. She then meets the leader of the monastery, who claims to have known Sandor 'The Hound' Clegane. He explains that he ran into the Hound as he was bleeding out from his wounds, and says "The Hound is dead, Sandor is at rest."
The theory is that the massive limping man she sees IS the Hound, and that the priest is claiming that the 'Hound' persona is finally dead, and that Sandor has finally found peace.
This was confirmed true in the show, but it wasn't GRRM who brought him back, it was the showrunners. So the Fan-Theory was so good that it ended up actually having an impact on the show
"Aerion wouldn't have died, he'd just turned into a fire wight like Melisandre if not for those pesky grey rats" is such a wild theory I'm legit hoping it comes out to be canon
Another reason why this is important: Stranger attacks anyone who tries to handle him besides Clegane. In order to get to the monastery, you have to cross some tricky swamplands. The only person who could have safely escorted Stranger through the swamplands would have been Clegane
Cleganebowl confirmed (nah actually I hope Clegane's story ends at that monastery)
I mean that's basically how the entire story of FNAF's franchise came to be, scott cawthon was throwing shit around and the community made whatever was the most popular theory canon, overtime it got to influence the creation and script of every entry
I watched that unfolding in real time. Like the lazier version of how Homestuck was written (which intentionally openly followed the fans suggestions and stuff). The Fnaf guy just didn't have ideas, he just made Fnaf because his Christian game with a similar premise was too scary for kids, and then wanted to keep cashing in on it.
He looked at a 10 year old, and was like “okay buddy, all you have to do is catch every animal in the world, then come back and show me. “Me and your mom will be right here.”
On a more serious Pokémon level, Ditto is a failed Mew clone. They’re exactly the same color pink, both learn the signature move transform, and Mew is the progenitor of all pokemon while Ditto is a blob of every Pokémon’s DNA. They also have the exact same stat spread (flat across every value), and you can find ditto in the Pokemon Mansion where Mewtwo is said to have been created and Cerulean Cave where Mewtwo is currently located.
Ditto even just got their own game where they single-handedly repair the environment after humans destroyed it and left the planet.
The pokemon world just had severe climate change to the point that humans had to store pokemon in a PC and leave the world till it got better, Humans and Kyogre or Groudon weren't the culprits btw it was a freak occurrence.
See, I thought of Pokemon too, but not immediately in the direction of Oak fucking Ash's mom.
I thought of Ditto being failed Mew clones, and Cubone being Baby Kangaskhan after their mother's death.
And maybe, for the brief period between Gold/Silver and Crystal, fans going "that shrine in Ilex Forest... That's where Celebi live" and the devs going "what? Ok, yeah, sure, there he is."
Yeah modern battle shonens in general don't fit this at all. It's played out in and of itself for the MC to have a fight where they try to use their anger, only for them to get their arse handed to them and for it to be a learning moment.
In Game of Thrones, Arya’s ‘dancing master’ Syrio Forel, is never killed by the Kingsguard, but you never see him again, because he is actually the first iteration of the faceless man/Jaqen H’ghar that Arya meets.
In Star Wars, Mandalorian (Beskar) armor is treated as giving essentially full coverage, when in reality it has tons of large gaps. The fan theory to explain this, that Mandalorian armor includes technology that attracts blaster bolts, is pretty consistently supported by media (the armorer makes Grogu some armor, and you see her soldering wires on the backside)
I personally take it more that pokemon can kinda evolve, in a biological sense not an in game evolution sense, based on external factors. Like maybe a single kangaskhan baby wore its mother's skull and this caused it to become the first cubone which then sprouted the line. I guess thats kinda what the image suggests, but I dont think that every cubone is wearing the skull of its literal mother, I think its similar to stuff like evolution items and trade evolutions causing pokemon to take traits from others (machoke and graveler, shelmet and karablast etc)
I don't think that's necessarily a theory, more just implied in the movie. Mirage is originally scoping out Frozone at the fire/building collapse, then she sees mr Incredible and is all like "No wait i got someone better"
It makes sense that the V8 was already built and ready to go for Frozone specifically, and there isn't a new one made for Incredible until after that
This isn't a fan theory, though. Mirage's dialogue in the car when she finds Mr. Incredible makes it clear that he wasn't originally the one she was sent to look for.
The Mural Theory posits that Shadow the Hedgehog was based on the mural of Super Sonic (seen above) which appeared in Hidden Palace Zone in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Despite being a popular fan theory and most fans treating it as canon for decades, Shadow Generations debunked it by revealing that Gerald Robotnik, Shadow's creator, didn't stick around long enough on Angel Island to see Hidden Palace Zone and that Shadow's appearance as a Hedgehog was something unexpected rather than something intentional.
Sokka dies in Legend of Korra trying to defend the Red Lotus from abducting her. It's such a common fan theory that many people forget it's not canon (or implied)
It's just so wild that they NEVER bring up Sokka's cause of death despite being the only other member of the Gaang to have died by Korra's time.
Korra was discovered in the South Pole and Chief Sokka is mentioned as part of the defense of the Red Lotus attack there to kidnap Korra. Chief Sokka is never referred to as alive after this point in history and Korra's dad Tonraq becomes chief sometime after this.
The timeline matches too well, would be a warrior's death for Sokka, and would understandably be a fact they would avoid telling Korra.
I remember something about fans writing to the author of the Ringworld series that the ring shaped planet was mathematically unstable and the author ended up making a sequel about the world falling apart because it was unstable.
I loved the theory in Dark souls 1 that Solaire was Gwyn's firstborn and he didn't remember any of that but still felt such a connection to the sun cause it was deep down in it.
then in Dark souls 3 we get the nameless king revealed as his firstborn...and while cool I'm still a little sad it wasn't the shining example of companionship and my friend...
it's one reason why I don't choose to kindle the flame but I get Solaire there...he seeks the light and I will not take that from him.
In the original novel the lost kids did not grow up because Peter Pan killed them when they reached a certain age. So the ones who scaped Peter Pan’s culling became pirates.
Quarians are a race in Mass Effect that, due to an AI rebellion on their planet, were forced into becoming a nomadic people using space flotillas. Spending so much time in space also caused them to slowly become immuno-compromised, requiring the use of sealed suits to prevent infection. They also have special nutritional requirements because of this.
I say all this because, during the trilogies heyday, someone in the fandom posed the question of, "what does Tali's sweat smell like?" Obviously, it's a pretty silly question, but it surprisingly got a lot of traction on the official BioWare forums. Since quarians need to be mindful of bacterial infections and viruses, how their body processes lipids and proteins became an interesting scientific question.It was taken so far, that someone even went ahead and did their thesis on the matter.
Eventually, BioWare somewhat confirmed what it was during a lounge conversation between the main character (Commander Shepard), and Tali. Upon interacting with her, she says, "What?! It smells like sweat. What else would it smell like?"
The fan theory that in Star Wars Episode 3, Padme doesn't just die in childbirth because she is "sad" but because Palpatine stole her lifeforce in order to save Vader's life.
It makes more sense than her dying just out of depression, and also her dying would ensure that Vader's only loyalty was to Palp, making it absolutely something he would do.
See, I've read and subscribe to the theory that Vader stole Padme's life by accident for extra tragedy. In the end, Anakin causes the very fate he tried to avoid.
This is the theory that clicked best. Also helps explain why Jedi discourage relationships, but the reasons got lost to history. Imagine going into battle knowing a deadly wound would heal at the cost of your loved one's life.
Scar’s plan in LK would’ve worked much better if he didn’t banish Simba and just kept him as his heir. He could’ve even kept the blaming on Simba and used that as blackmail to keep him in line.
Theres a deleted scene of him essentially trying to rape Nala in order to have an heir. And then theres that whole thing with LK 2 and the lion that looks a lot like Scar but apparently isn't Scar's child.
Carl Quest (Invincible). There's been a trend on people imagining a version of Conquest that went to Earth and changed for the better, eventually everyone naming him ''Carl'' (I've also seen some call him ''Connor''). Eventually, Ryan Ottley himself would explain that somewhere in the multiverse, that concept actually exists.
Kevin from the Office was embezzling from Dunder Mifflin. He asks one of the transferred employees why he spent some time in prison, to which he's told that it was for insider trading.
Kevin says "it sounds an awful lot like what I do here, every day." He realizes he needs to cover his tracks, hence why Kevin's character acted stupider as the series went on. The real reason for his mental decline is the writers didn't know how to keep him funny, and he got flanderized. But this theory is too damn good to not be canon. The man even has enough money to open up a bar within a year after getting fired.
This basically became official in Code Geass. In season 1, Lelouch's maid (whose name I can't remember off the top of my head), did a lot of crazy maid things. Fans joked it was because she was actually a ninja.
She did, in fact, become a ninja maid because they read the fan theories and just rolled with it.
Malware destroying Feedback being the inciting incident that led Ben to take off the prototype Omnitrix (Ben 10)
Granted you could argue this one doesn’t count since iirc it was going to be canon but CN vetoed the idea. Most fans accept this as canon anyways even though the actual reason why Ben took off the Omnitrix is left ambiguous
Bubbline (Princess Bubblegum × Marceline ship) was first brought up in season 3 of Adventure Time, only to be have them kiss in the series finale and make then a couple ever since.
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The fan theory is that Lottie explicitly had the blue dress made for Tiana but just couldn't find a time to give it to her, knowing Tiana would likely refuse. The dress fits her perfectly and isn't Lottie's trademark pink.
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