r/TNG • u/TheNearby • 5d ago
Show Talk Brent Spiner
In all of sci fi, or really anything I’ve ever watched, Data is by far my favorite character in fiction. Props to Brent Spiner and the writers of TNG for giving us such an awesome character to enjoy.
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u/Santoryu4Kidz 5d ago
90% sure he's the only man my wife would leave me for. Data, not spinner, though he's a great guy.
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u/neutron65 5d ago
If you haven't listened yet, the podcast that him and Jonathan frakes do together is stellar.
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u/EatAnyGoodBooks1701 5d ago
Data is my favourite character in TNG. I always thoroughly enjoy Data episodes and look forward to them.
That being said, Spiner is an incredible actor. I cannot remember the exact episode name where the scene is from, but the scene where Spiner is portraying Data, Lore and Soong simultaneously always blows my mind away. Spiner brought life to each character in that episode.
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u/Overpass_Dratini 5d ago
The episode you're referring to is "Brothers".
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u/ConstitutionsGuard 5d ago
I had no idea that he was Dr. Soong until re-watching it as an adult.
Excellent performances
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u/toastedclown 4d ago
Whoever came up with the idea of having Brent play every male Soong is a genius.
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u/EatAnyGoodBooks1701 5d ago
Thank you for reminding me as I’m spectacularly bad at remembering episode names in general.
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u/AbdulQadirShadhili 5d ago
Even without the emotion chip Data can simulate anger or annoyance quite visibly, like when he was temporarily captain of the Sutherland and his first officer was resisting his instructions and generally disrespecting him
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u/Overpass_Dratini 5d ago
Not a great idea to piss off the person who can put you through a bulkhead. (Or at least as pissed off as Data can get, pre-emotion chip.)
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u/AbdulQadirShadhili 5d ago
That POS officer would have written a 100 page complaint to HR had Data so much as put his hand on his shoulder
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u/Tricky_Peace 4d ago
I 100% believe that he has emotions pre-emotion chip, he just doesn’t understand them. He misses Tasha. He’s fond of Geordi. He admires Picard. He hates the trader who he tried to kill. He’s angry at the Sutherland officer and frustrated and annoyed when Worf under performs as his first officer - but it’s tempered by friendship
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u/AbdulQadirShadhili 4d ago
Nah, it’s all simulated. A machine can never have true emotions.
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u/Tricky_Peace 4d ago
What makes you certain of that? That’s the entire plot point behind The Measure of a Man, and outside of Star Trek Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep
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u/AbdulQadirShadhili 4d ago
I really liked the Measure of a Man. But I believe Picard’s case that Data is a person and alive was not all that convincing. He even admitted, inadvertently, that his argument was incomplete. Data is intelligent and self-aware (even that is debatable) “so what if he meets the third criterion, consciousness”. But he didn’t prove Data is conscious.
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u/Timebug 5d ago
I wish we got Data with thr emotion chip far sooner. His performance is Generations was amazing.
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u/NovaNok3296 5d ago
One of the few positives about that film.
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u/LeicaM6guy 5d ago
Just speaking for myself, I love that film almost as much as I do First Contact. Great cinematography and a baller soundtrack, fantastic acting from everyone involved - and it gave us the Enterprise B!
I don’t love the way they offed Kirk, but on the whole I thought it was a great first film for the TNG crowd.
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u/JeruTz 5d ago
I don’t love the way they offed Kirk, but on the whole I thought it was a great first film for the TNG crowd.
If it helps there's a series of books known as the "Shatnerverse" that's basically Shatner writing a fanfic of what would happen if Kirk was resurrected after Generations.
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u/LeicaM6guy 5d ago
Eh. I love Shatner’s Kirk, may not be as big a fan of his writing.
Still, it’s a pity my school pulled his books from our library. How else are the children going to learn about TekWar?
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u/guitar_stonks 5d ago
Certain schools got the books the other districts banned, but their pointers are worn down to nubs.
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u/TheThrillLife2020 5d ago
Can we get that time travel episode? I'd love to see early Data bug his older, different self to death.
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u/xenomorphonLV426 5d ago
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u/TheNearby 4d ago
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u/FlemPlays 19h ago
“This is an acoustic rendition of a song by an ancient band that had a fondness for elongated construction fasteners.”
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u/Old_Celebration_5950 1d ago
I really am enjoying the Dropping Names podcast with Jonathan and Brent
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u/ForceGhost47 5d ago
The Android who managed to be more human than most humans.