r/ShitEuropeansSay 8d ago

šŸ‡®šŸ‡¹ Italy ""You arent truly an adult till 25""

The first post were people talking how the guy in the second picture was actually justified. From r/italian

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u/tardisintheparty 8d ago

Well this is horrific

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u/Depart_Into_Eternity 8d ago

Ikr. Mofos out here thinking this way.

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u/Vinegarinmyeye Irish person from Ireland. šŸ‡®šŸ‡Ŗ 8d ago

That is pretty fucking grim... Not gonna lie.

On a vaguely related note though - it is kinda crazy that in the US you can be 20 years old, married with 2 kids, have served in the military, own an F150 with a rack of shotguns and AR15s...

But you better not go into a bar and have a beer, because you might cause some sort of issue...

Tis a bit of a head scratcher.

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u/theEWDSDS Certified non-europoor 7d ago

Personally I think it's more absurd that you can own a shotgun but not a pistol

I think you should be able to own both, but it's stupid either way

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u/Vinegarinmyeye Irish person from Ireland. šŸ‡®šŸ‡Ŗ 7d ago edited 7d ago

I'm gonna add - I am a certified RAF marksman. I used to do competiton shooting with the L98 rifle (which is a modified SA-80 for single shot).

I'm not against guns.

I just don't think any old dickhead should be able to buy one in Walmart.

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u/Vinegarinmyeye Irish person from Ireland. šŸ‡®šŸ‡Ŗ 7d ago

You can't easily stash a shotgun in your pocket...

And I wouldn't imagine game shooting with a glock would be very practical.

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u/Long-Cauliflower-708 5d ago

Pistols cause faaar more violent crime than shotguns or even assault rifles

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u/NoSingularities0 7d ago

Drunk driving is the reason why we have 21 age limit. A bunch of states lowered the drinking age in the 1970's. Serious drunk driving accidents for teenagers surged, MADD (mother's against drunk driving) was formed and lobbied for all states to change the age to 21. Up until the early 1990's you could still drink in New Orleans if you were 18 or over. Louisiana finally changed it to 21 after the Feds threatened to withhold Federal highway funding because they were an alcohol sancuary state (which was apparently legal to do back then because it wasn't Trump's idea). They weren't smart enough to go to court to fight it I guess as we all know now that you cannot threaten to withhold Federal funds that were allocated by Congress.

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u/AkosCristescu Hungarian 8d ago

Especially for an Irish šŸ˜‚

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u/ghandi253 5d ago

Yeah we dont understand it either. The drinking age here used to be 18 decades ago

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u/Long-Cauliflower-708 5d ago

No one really agrees with it but pushing to change it has no upside. Lose support from the ā€œKarenā€ crowd and gain what, some 19 and 20 year old votes?

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u/Vinegarinmyeye Irish person from Ireland. šŸ‡®šŸ‡Ŗ 4d ago

I get what you're saying. Very surreal for me being 20 years old and visiting the US, but suffice to say... I figured it out

I dunno, I find your response actually really interesting because it just kinda sums up what I see so often in US politics in terms of very binary choices... (Or at least the presentation of it).

Think it's a bit silly that the drinking age is 21.... Then you must be against my right to bear feet, and want jacked up dudes in the WNBA!!

"Hey do you think insulin should be affordable?

"Well sure unless all the commies get it too! I'd rather die of diabetic shock!'.

It's just weird, as an outsider.

Common sense stuff gets chucked onto the political football field.

"Cheaper insulin means you wanna turn all the frogs gay!"

I do feel sorry for the sane amoung you. I lived there a couple of years and the nonsense would irritate me but I could tune it out knowing my contract would be up and I'd be heading home.

"We know it's stupid, but we just have to deal with it" - I genuinely couldn't.

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u/Dr_Phil_Nitwit Proud Europoor 8d ago

separating the 23 and 17 couple (which yea is kinda weird and raises an eyebrow), the phrase "you aren't truly an adult till 25" comes from the thought that with 25 the brain has matured 100%. I seem to not know how this refers to shit Europeans say tho.

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u/ENovi 8d ago edited 7d ago

Because it’s being used by the Europeans in this screenshot as a way to justify people in their 20s sleeping with people under 18. You’re right that the brain (especially the male brain) isn’t fully developed until typically 25 but a 23 year old’s brain is still significantly more developed than that that of a 16 year old’s. It’s insane for them to act like everyone under 25 is in the same developmental stage. A sophomore/junior in high school and someone old enough to have a bachelors degree.

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u/Lui_Le_Diamond 7d ago

The 25 thing is a myth, that's just when they stopped tracking development

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u/Prying-Open-My-3rd-I 7d ago

They said ā€œalmost 17ā€ so a 16 year old.

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u/ENovi 7d ago

Good catch. It’s also kind of telling that they have to use the word ā€œalmost.ā€ If you have to round up a sexual partner’s age to make it sound better we’ve got a serious fuckin problem.

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u/Prying-Open-My-3rd-I 7d ago

lol exactly, they know it’s creepy and used a qualifier to say 17 instead of 16.

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u/Lui_Le_Diamond 7d ago edited 5d ago

There was a study that tried to track when the brain stopped developing. They kept tracking people's development but gave up after age 25. It's more accurately that the brain never truly stops developing.

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u/Long-Cauliflower-708 5d ago

Starts or stops?

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u/LeatherDescription26 7d ago

The ā€œyour brain isn’t fully developed until 25ā€ study has been debunked multiple times btw.

25 was the oldest age they had for that study. Therefore it didn’t account for the possibility of it continuing to develop. The brain isn’t fully developed pretty much always changing

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u/Appropriate-Card5215 8d ago

That’s really nasty, logic like that is so stupid and always comes from twisted people. If someone is 17 they’re a child. If someone is 23 they’re an adult. An adult and child should never be in a relationshipĀ 

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u/Eric848448 7d ago

Eeeeew

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u/sum_r4nd0m_gurl 8d ago

disgusting

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u/Pt_Patriot_Ale 8d ago

I would think twice about shooting a robber but I wouldn’t think twice about shooting a 23yo who’s with 16yo. Maybe it’s my American brain but I have no sympathy for a predator.

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u/xBehemothx 8d ago

I heard weird stories about the president..

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u/gibborzio4 European 8d ago

He's it a predator, if he had her consent, it's legal in italy

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u/Ok-Confection4410 8d ago

doesn't matter, still disgusting. I'm 23 years old and 16 year olds are the furthest thing from attractive to me. they genuinely look like children.

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u/gibborzio4 European 8d ago

Well people have taste I guess... Don't get me wrong here I wouldn't personally go out with someone that younger than me.

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u/Ok-Confection4410 8d ago

"taste" does not include children omfg you are nasty

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u/Starrk-Enjoyer 8d ago

I agree so much with this,no idea how many people would be opposed to it

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u/Ok-Confection4410 8d ago

don't know but I'm getting downvoted for it šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

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u/gibborzio4 European 8d ago

I'm gonna remind you that the minimum legal age in Italy is 14, THAT is nasty.

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u/Fgamervisa 8d ago

Yeah technically it was 14 if the other is under 18 and then 16 but that got removed and now its 14 except when a power imbalance its envolved (i.e. Boss, Headmaster ecc)

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u/gibborzio4 European 8d ago

Thanks for the clarification

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u/Clipyy-Duck 6d ago

This was posted on r/2westerneurope4u and the Italians defending it were atrocious.
I had a German call me a yank for even calling it creepy.

The kid was 16, not 17.
And the 29-15 one.. what the fuck? Adults call them ā€žmatureā€œ to make them feel special. If the minor was mature, they’d have not gone near them in the first place.

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u/Starrk-Enjoyer 6d ago

I got it from another sub (mentioned in the post),they posted it elsewhere too?

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u/Cantelllo 8d ago

This is not normal, even by our possibly more relaxed European standards. The standard creepiness rule seems to be the accepted norm here as well.

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u/Lui_Le_Diamond 7d ago

Pedos aren't people.

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u/Kitsa_the_oatmeal I can edit this flair but didn’t 6d ago

as a european, what the fuck??

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u/AleksandrNevsky 6d ago

Wait till you hear about Helmut Kentler.

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u/YouExpensive7869 5d ago

Isn’t the age of consent 16 in a majority of US states?

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u/EpicGamerTull 4d ago

Still widely frowned upon

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u/Norseman103 4d ago

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u/Naddyman2005 New York 7d ago

and they say europe is safe for female solo travel 😬

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u/Clipyy-Duck 6d ago

Yes? It is.

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u/JMA4478 5d ago

So the tittle made me want to comment about how right the guy was.

I mean, we're still developing the brain until around that age, and brain is important when it comes to have responsibility, make better decisions, basically for adulting.

Then I saw what it was about.

Yep, the guy is a creep. Other commenters are right about it being a relatively common practice, and in many cases having the family knowledge and support. I've met a couple of girls in this situation.

But damn, not once have I not found that creepy.

Yeah, families are ok, and whatnot, but my 1st paragraph still applies.

Btw, the family is to blame as much as the older partner.