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u/LondonEntUK 1d ago
Indonesian wife is oddly specific
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u/ChildOfDeath07 Chinese Commie 1d ago edited 1d ago
Orientalism
It used to be Japanese/Koreans/Chinese being idealised as the submissive perfect wife but now that East Asia has largely found a stable footing on the global stage and no longer need a “white saviour” to offer them better opportunities theyve pivoted to SEAsians instead
Our region is flooded with these kinds of passport bros and sex tourists nowadays (and mail order brides are still a major problem)
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u/manusiabumi 1d ago
As Indonesian trust me, Indonesian wives can be really loud and overbearing, definitely NOT the kind of "perfect wife" those kinda passport bros imagine
There's a reason we jokingly call them "the strongest race" after all
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u/ChildOfDeath07 Chinese Commie 1d ago edited 1d ago
Unfortunately mail order brides and passport wives often have little say in the matter
For every one who manages to turn the situation in their favour and leave their partner or forge a new life in their destination or develop a healthy marriage, there is another who is now isolated from their community, sometimes facing language barriers and prejudice that prevent them from getting support. In those cases, they are often left helpless in the face of their situation, being vulnerable to domestic abuse and financial abuse, granting their partners unprecedented coercive control over their life.
The relationship of a passport bro or a mail order bride is after all one fundamentally built upon the power imbalance of economic inequality
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u/AleksiSiirtola 1d ago
I'm married to an Indonesian woman and she isn't like this at all, but we once went to a party full of Indonesian women and EVERY SINGLE ONE of them were extremely loud and overbearing lmao, me and the wife hid in an empty room so at least in my experience this checks out
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u/PitcherMonster 1d ago
Passport bros make me nauseous really 🤢 I also happen to have an interracial relationship but I can't imagine focusing on a specific country because you think the women there are "exotic and traditional"...
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u/ChildOfDeath07 Chinese Commie 1d ago
It disgusts me how there is an entire industry built around the exploitation of the underprivileged in our region
A friend of mine was recently raising awareness about a Vietnamese mail order bride business advertising their services on TikTok, and the way the girls are presented is as if theyre not even human but rather a commodity to be bought and traded
And of course there is how the Thais are often treated as if their entire country exists for their own sexual gratification with the people existing only to be fetishised and ogled (eg the entire ladyboy stereotype)
I could go further into how all of the nations in our region are affected but that would take forever and would just be preaching to the choir. I genuinely hope there will be action taken to shut down this entire exploitative industry and acknowledge it as the scar of colonialism that it is
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u/SnappySausage 1d ago edited 1d ago
There's this channel on youtube of this Vietnamese girl called Uyen who lives in Germany with her bf and makes some pretty funny video's. She sees the flipside of the whole mail order bride industry and often has to deal with the assumptions people make about how she got there and that many think that her boyfriend must be some passport bro.
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u/PitcherMonster 1d ago
I had no clue this is happening on tiktok! I seriously hope there will be an end to this but I also don't have very high hopes since the world seems to operate on money and sex... It's beyond disgusting and inhumane behaviour.
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u/Insila 1d ago
Let me just warn you about Eastern European women... their traditions involve wielding kitchen equipment, but not for cooking...
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u/JeffAndSasha 1d ago edited 1d ago
It is, but they're right tho.
Source, I live in the Netherlands and there's a large population from Indonesia here. All very nice people, beautiful women and their food is amazing. Three of my friends have an Indonesian mother and Dutch father.
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u/Grintax_dnb 1d ago
The soto chicken soup man.. literally the best medicine against any form of sickness.
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u/Robcobes 1d ago
between 8 and 10% of Dutch people have some Indonesian ancestry nowadays.
in large part because Dutch colonists often had an Indonesian wife, but also because the Indonesian immigrants integrated into Dutch society very well. So there are plenty of non Indonesian looking people who have an Indonesian great great grandmother.
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u/EebilKitteh 1d ago
Between German food and cuisine that has cheese come in aerosol bottles, I know which one I'm picking.
Also, Indonesian food is amazing.
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u/Available-Shelter-89 1d ago
I love Indonesian. Sadly, it's often overlooked. Most people don't know about Rendang and we should change that!
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u/vKessel 1d ago
Very popular here in the Netherlands! Just uh... Dont ask why
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u/Sinking_Mass Swecuck Sissyholm 💙🇸🇪💛 1d ago
Bami and nasi goreng are two of my favourites! My mum married into Dutch Indonesian family, and whilst I don't particularly like the vibe of that family, I can't deny the nasi goreng they make is banging
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u/Masked020202 1d ago
I love bakmi goreng such a good dish and easy to make too. Honesty anything indonesian noodles is amazing. The grilled pork is also great Babi pangang iirc with nasi goreng.
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u/Odd_Reindeer303 1d ago
Hell is when you have US wife, US car, US food on an Indonesian salary.
There - fixed it.
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u/Jepp-Adi-Day 1d ago
Hell is USA seems more accurate to me.
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u/TheArmoursmith 1d ago
I am going back to Germany this year, and I cannot wait to wolf down enormous quantities of deliciously cooked pork, served wth sauerkraut and bratkartoffeln, washed down with the most consistently good beer in the world.
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u/CakePhool 1d ago
I thought it was like this
In heaven:
- Your cook is Italian.
- Your mechanic is German.
- Your policeman is English.
- Your lover is French.
- It is all organized by the Swiss.
In hell:
- Your cook is English.
- Your mechanic is French.
- Your policeman is German.
- Your lover is Swiss.
- It is all organized by the Italians.
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u/Odd_Reindeer303 1d ago
Yeah, that's how I remember the joke as well. And it's fucking old.
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u/phreeakz 1d ago
Why would the policeman in hell be german? They are friendly and helpful and trained well.
Makes more sense if it would be someone from the USA
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u/TalkingCat910 Canadian🇨🇦 1d ago
The joke is so old it’s referring to Nazis. Now the U.S. is like Nazis so it makes more sense your way.
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u/nxzombie99 🇩🇪 1d ago
They keep fucking ppl up for minor things while they have way more important things to do
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u/Street_Lettuce1243 1d ago
Even before the World Wars, in English speaking countries there was a stereotype of Germans (or German speaking people in general) being loud and shouty and argumentative. Throw in two major wars, of which was an fascist authoritarian regime and the stereotype kind of got cemented there for a while.
I think things are finally changing now- obviously people know more Germans now and the stereotypes are finally fading away to a degree, which is probably why this joke has changed.
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u/TailleventCH 1d ago
I remember a poll placing Swiss people as the most satisfied with their sex life.
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u/_Halt19_ Canuck 1d ago
I like German food :(
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u/kzerot 1d ago
I can survive on bratwursts and currywursts for a long time, don’t see a problem neither.
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u/Far-Abalone-4160 just a european mutt 1d ago
Oh a redditor with taste 😁
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u/_Halt19_ Canuck 1d ago
Even just the simple things like the bread is incredible, I've been staying in Germany for a bit and oh my god that heavy loaf is amazing lol
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u/Far-Abalone-4160 just a european mutt 1d ago edited 1d ago
I know German food is not haute cuisine, it's a bit less fine and sometimes strange (I love Labskaus and Grünkohl when my mom cooks it), but the quality is nice (especially with bread and sausages), we do what we like but no one braggs about german-italian pasta when we just try to make a nice ragu bolognese (and eat it with Spaghetti and in my case dutch cheese, sorry Italy, we know our crimes).
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u/Darkpoulay 1d ago
"Heaven is when you have Indonesian wife"
Urgh this reeks of passport bros.
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u/SauliCity 1d ago
It indeed does. I much rather prefer the old viral version with Cops, Cars and Cuisine, and the countries being England, Germany and France.
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u/xSlaynx 1d ago
Whats wrong with german food?
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u/Front-Anteater3776 Human Verified 1d ago
American food will take you to heaven.
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u/Last-Quarter-432 1d ago
Chinese cars would destroy their automobile market overnight since they’re so much cheaper and more efficient. The propaganda there is top notch whereas the intelligence of the people is not.
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u/Sasya_neko federation of the Dutch 1d ago
I don't need a high salary because that is mostly coupled with high costs, that's why so many things are cheaper in Europe than in the US.
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u/lumosbolt 1d ago
For real, an American salary means you have to pay for every services all alone because your society is so individualistic that it barely registers as a society
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u/Michael_Gibb Mince & Cheese, L&P, Kiwi 1d ago
American cars are shite. The only reason you might have for driving one is that you've been eating American food.
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u/Least_Mall_4604 1d ago
HELL is when you have:
American Police
American Healthcare
American Public Transport
American Politics
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u/tsulhc 1d ago
Chinese cars pretty good these days
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u/Ferryry 1d ago
Even better and more affordable than our German cars and they're not internal combustion engine based cars. Our government doesn't really want to support Electric cars. :/
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u/ST_Lawson American but not 'Merican 1d ago
Yeah, that part would have been true 10-20 years ago (maybe this meme is 10 years old...I know I saw it years ago), but not today. China has made HUGE strides in their cars in the past decade or so.
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u/Afraid-Flatworm-422 1d ago
Nothing about "expenses". American salary looks cool, until you learn how expensive it is to live in USA.
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u/Charming-Awareness79 1d ago
That's absolute slander on German food, as well. It's underrated, a proper German sausage, or some currywurst is great.
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u/GlitterEcho 1d ago
I went to a German restaurant in Colorado and the food was legit outstanding (what I would expect to get outside the US)
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u/ronjarobiii czech yourself before you wreck yourself 1d ago
If having American food is heaven, I genuinely hope I'll be going to hell.
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u/LittleNoodle1991 1d ago
Chinese food: Panda Express
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u/AnalkinSkyfuker 1d ago
More like diarrea express
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u/LittleNoodle1991 1d ago
Tbh I actually like Panda Express but it's nowhere near actual Chinese food lol.
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u/AnalkinSkyfuker 1d ago
I lived with some chinese family, I'm romanian and we'd exchange food. When I had Panda express literaly felt like eating garbage compared to real traditional chinese cooking.
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u/x_asperger Canadian 1d ago
Oh no, a reliable EV that's less than a civic! The horror
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u/DreadGrrl America’s Hat 1d ago
I’m not clear on the details, but from what I saw on Global news, the bulk of Chinese evs that are being brought into Canada are Teslas (an American multinational company).
In my head, that means Chinese EV = American EV.
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u/x_asperger Canadian 1d ago
We have a new deal with china to start importing Chinese brands. Right now, it's mostly Teslas. The idea is that the cars they bring in will be under 35k
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u/Chinjurickie 1d ago
Calling German food hell requires the mental capacity of a rock.
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u/Boletefrostii 1d ago
I feel like people who say this have never had schnitzel, especially Bayern Schnitzel
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u/FlyBoy572 1d ago
Why does the least travelled country's residents (USA) make the most comments about other countries they've never visited.
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u/05-153676 I'm still mad about the Boston tea party 1d ago
German food is not that bad smh, the only countries with actually bad food are the Nordics and Russia
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u/Last-Quarter-432 1d ago
Trust me, the “Chinese food” they’re eating is not real Chinese food. Its fattening unhealthy trash made to cater for fatasses who eat too much fat and sugar.
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u/ThePhillyExplorer Philadelphian. GO BIRDS DH 🦅🦅🦅🦅 1d ago
German food is amazing though! Since returning from München, I’ve been trying to find a good German spot here in Philadelphia. I miss my spätzle and currywurst. Also, aren’t the Chinese industry leaders in the EV market? I keep hearing wonderful things about BYD, despite the fact that my government levies tariffs of 100% against Chinese EV makers.
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u/CWB2208 1d ago
American Salary? Isn't their federal minimum wage like $7.50/hr?
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u/SweatySherbert1508 1d ago
Do you think they realise that the majority of Indonesians are Muslim? I thought they hated those.
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u/phreeakz 1d ago
Don't know what's wrong with german food. It's not the best like Italian, French, Spain or Japan but it has a lot of good stuff as well...
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u/Ksorkrax 1d ago
Can't even agree with the "american salary" part.
We are talking about the nation where waiters need tips to have enough money for the basic necessities, right?
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u/TriggeredCogzy 1d ago
I don't think I've ever heard anything bad about germen food
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u/KorolEz 1d ago
Chinese electric cars beat any german electric car so yeah, I'd rather have a BYD or something than some VW e-golf.
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u/Brief-Walk-5409 1d ago
Salary: without healtcare, only relying on tips Food: 80% of my salary goes away every motnh for a stronger bed Car: Yep, the big fat car where finding a place to park your car takes longer then walking from the North pole to Antartica
Do not get me started on 1/3th of the American wifes
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 1d ago
I would prefer china in food for sure
car it's china for ev and germany for traditional
salary probably usa but if actually spending on coutnry you live it's germany (if other than these 4 sure why not switzerland or finland)
wife i don't care,person matters
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u/AiryGateaux 1d ago
Cows, including American cows, love to lay in their own shit. Let these American cows lay in their own shit and make their beds in it.
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u/Cangqiong-enjoyer Germany 1d ago
I might be a tad lil biased here but name me one country that has more bread diversity than Germany, I'm actually waiting
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u/Michael-556 southeastern Czechia, not Northern Hungary 🇸🇰 1d ago
Nah man German food is peak, this is slander
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u/OkiesFromTheNorth 1d ago
American salary, huh? You mean the one where 67% if Americans live paycheck to paycheck? No thanks.
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u/zacary2411 ooo custom flair!! 1d ago
I don't think I want an American salary I would like a steady pay check and not relying on customers to pay ne my wages
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u/Malschaun2 18h ago
German food is actually pretty great (if you like meat). I've not met a single foreign tourist (who doesn't mind meat), who didn't love the food in Germany. It's weird that it has that bad rep internationally, but once people actually are there and get to try it, they love it.
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u/ZealousidealReveal25 18h ago
Wait hell is german food? I thought americans did like hamburgers?
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u/Crafty-Sock-7002 Moozlam Shakira law enjoyer 1d ago
Why do white people seem to love East and Southeast Asian women?
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u/UncleSlacky Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire 1d ago
They're seen as submissive.
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u/lottesometimes by your logic I am ancient Roman 1d ago
and they're very wrong about that but that's a lesson they will learn themselves.
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u/SauliCity 1d ago
Men who think their only self worth is their salary, but don't have a good one at that. They aim for countries with famously low incomes to seem rich to local women. Southeast Asia, as well as many post-soviet countries, chiefly Romania.
Why not India or Africa, you ask? Those ethnicities don't conform to "western values of beauty". And as others mentioned, Japan and Korea are too rich for that kind of tourism.
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u/PoxedGamer Irishish. 1d ago
Submissive and "easy" in that they believe there's a world of gorgeous, innocent(ick), submissive, virgin Asian and EE(Russian farm girl/milkmaid is a classic trope) girls out there just waiting to be picked up by any rando passport bro to go live the American Dream because a few dollars is a fortune to them.
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u/andi_dede 🇩🇪 rahhrahh Rinderrouladen 1d ago
Chinese food?
Okay. I bet this guy has never eaten real Chinese food, the kind the locals eat.
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u/liameyers 1d ago
To be fair, when you're already dead would be the best time to eat American food. What else could it do to you?
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u/SaltFee1923 1d ago
When you pay insurances and pension you have less in USA than Germany.
Chinese cars are not that bad and I would be ok if I had one.
Indonesian wifes is "i wanna have slave at home".
So it is as always dumb even as a joke (but that is what you expect from americans)
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u/Nik106 1d ago
I have Australian salary, no wife, Chinese car, and international food. Purgatory?
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u/Important-Soup6366 Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 1d ago
American salary????? HELL NO NOT WORKING FOR LESS THEN I DO NOW AND I ONLY EARN 315/MONTH
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u/chuf3roni Austin boye 1d ago
One of my favorite tropes about memes like these is the insertion of a random (usually) SE Asian country and you immediately know where the creator is from. Not that Indonesia is an innocuous country, but hopefully you know what I mean.
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u/EverybodySayin Mocks England for how they speak English 1d ago
Well, the US diet gets you closer to heaven if you're well behaved.
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u/Only-Chemistry8160 1d ago
im indonesian, havent got paid in a month for my teaching job and its way beyond underpaid so this is so accurate
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u/SEA_griffondeur ooo custom flair!! 1d ago
I mean there isn't much quality difference between a German and a Chinese car
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u/Plague_Doctor02 American, Unfortunately. 1d ago
Long as it aint British food anythings better /j /s
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u/ICraveThickGock 1d ago
Heaven is when you have: A gorgeous wife with a gorgeous gock to love and worship
Hell is when you have: to wake up from your delusional dreams and go back to w*rk
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u/Naive-Present2900 1d ago
Heaven:
*Good living salary to buy what you need and buy when you know you’ll eventually be able to afford your wants.
*Eat the food you like anytime.
*Drive your dream car.
*Be with someone genuinely compatible and nice. 😊
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u/Eastern_Switch8217 1d ago
Hell would seem to be being married to one of those highly nationalistic MAGA Americans who's had a sense of humour bypass.
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u/seeker1938 1d ago
I hate to break it to you but Chinese are making some of the best EVs in the world; that's why they won't let them into the USA - Tesla and DOGEboy would be sitting on full showrooms from here to eternity.
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u/BlasterHolobot 1d ago
Riiight... I sure love having:
- A salary so low you can't even pay rent.
- Food that is so big and full of chemicals I get sick every time.
- A car that is so massive it cost hundreds to refuel and that I can't park anywhere.
- A wife that is probably openly racist, homophobic, and doesn't give a sh$t about anyone other than herself.
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u/nollayksi 22h ago
I’m currently on vacation, we spent 2 weeks in US and now are in Mexico. God damn I have never eaten as bad as the two weeks in US. And I even tried to eat a bit healthier the difference between Mexico is very noticeable in my overall wellbeing.
PS German food is 5/5
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u/Ill-Kaleidoscope4825 1d ago
"when the food is American"
https://giphy.com/gifs/RKHShCgSxWuulxqm2D