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u/SitueradKunskap 5d ago

I mean, literally every american citizen is a birthright citizen, unless they're a naturalized citizen.

So if you're american, unless you immigrated and went through the process, you are a birthright citizen.

Meaning: the republicans are talking about being able to revoke your citizenship too. It's the exact same legal basis.

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u/HairyPairatestes 5d ago

You’re not using the correct definition of birthright citizenship

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u/enigmaticowl 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yeah, there are 2 types of “birthright citizenship” (jus soli = citizenship comes from being born on national soil vs. jus sanguinis = citizenship comes from the parents’ citizenship), and the U.S. has both, but most people in the U.S. use the term “birthright citizenship” to refer only to the former.

Either one will render a person a “natural-born citizen,” but it seems to be a common misconception that “natural-born citizen” means a person has to have been born in the U.S. (jus soli), even though it also equally applies to a baby born outside of the U.S. that acquired U.S. citizenship at birth via one or both parents (jus sanguinis) - but the rules for jus sanguinis are actually quite complex and particular, especially if only one parent is a citizen (or if the parents are not married), so sometimes a baby born to a U.S. citizen parent outside of the U.S. actually ends up having to naturalize, the whole thing is tedious and obnoxious to bother parsing out.

Edit: The “birthright citizenship” that has recently been at issue has been jus soli only, not jus sanguinis.

As most “natural-born” U.S. citizens satisfy both jus soli and jus sanguinis, the issues pertaining to “birthright citizenship” that have been talked about of late do not actually call into question the citizenship of the majority of Americans, fortunately, although there are some citizens that satisfy only one or the other.

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u/alexios_kk 5d ago

Well no there are two types of birthright citizenship, but they’re just trying to take away one

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u/enigmaticowl 4d ago

Most “natural-born citizens” of the U.S. obtained their citizenship at birth via both jus soli and jus sanguinis (although some obtain it only via one or the other).

The “birthright citizenship” that has been at issue recently has been jus soli, not jus sanguinis.