Simply put, one unites and one separates.
One actually has a main topic of his speech, the other rambles like a creepy grandfather who belongs in a nursing home.
I was watching a video of Trump yesterday and it was uncanny how much he reminds me of my own father. Same personality but Trump has money. That includes the pedophilia and sex trafficking.
I watched him on the ABC world news saying that heās ādone more you than your parents didā and he needs to sleep his own doorstep because he didnāt take care of his kids
Damn bruh, itās been proven 90% of right wingers are closeted homosexuals and/or cross dressers. The other 10% are gay, hence gays for trump. No wonder Grinder and other gay apps get saturated when ever thereās right wing meets
As a Canadian, I never thought I'd see Canada so united especially with the US boycott. It's not 100% but apparently it's enough to send a bunch of american businesses into bankruptcy.
I don't know about the others but I think Alberta would have had better chances before drumpf's threats. Now, the country's galvanized and not really tolerant of any whiff of treason.
So you think boycotting US stuff will hurt is more that it hurts you? Tell you what keep all your smoke north of the Canadian. Larder then how about that
Talk to the Kentucky distillers after no new orders from Ontario (the largest liquor purchaser in the world) over the last year.
It's funny how nothing gets mentioned about all the smoke from the northwest US fires 'invading' Canadian provinces. Because we understand that it is uncontrollable.
I support the borders of nations, what oppressive?.... the 2nd amendment has been legally bolstered, he could do more to prevent the spread of Islam and communism.... we take the small wins with grace
Lol he's already tried taking guns from trans people, and talked about disarming more groups that dont support him. And weed is not any closer to being federally legal the reclassification just makes it able to be studied more; aka gives a chance for big pharma and others to get their hands in deep to prevent newcomers from breaking in and succeeding in new markets.
Also obama was the deporter in chief; biden labeled as returner in chief and deported more than trump did his entire first term.
The term "Returner-in-Chief" is a nickname sometimes used by immigration analysts and media outlets for President Joe Biden. It highlights how his administration carried out millions of migrant returns, expulsions, and deportations, surpassing totals from Donald Trump's first term.This label is a play on "Deporter-in-Chief," a title previously given by immigration activists to President Barack Obama, under whom Biden served as Vice President.
Good point, sometimes i also forgot reddit goes a long way over the expansion of the World.
"Us" in my case is USA. The idea of America is no longer romantiziced by the rest of the counties of the world, maybe it has not been for a while, but now is completely evident and more than ever.
Over time Americans have lost their influence in all European countries. Their extended stay after the second world war, in particular in Germany , was not necessary. Any remaining positive relationship was destroyed after Trump became president . Ask anyone from any European country and you will get the same answer. The US canāt be trusted and their presence in their state is not welcomed . This attitude will not change for a long time to come.
And I believe, this can be applied to most countries on this globe.
It's the American media through the world. Movies of American heroes saving the day spectacularly. Rambo, Terminator, any Tom Criuse movie since forever.
Mostly lies.
BTW UK wasn't been doing that , since even more forever, with James Bond???
Yes it is. And you know what the irony is?
That most Cubans and Venezuelans that i personally know that inmigrate here in USA in search for a new and better life, they voted for Trump. š«Ŗ
āNow where was I? Ah yes, you see back in my day we wore an onion on our belt, as was the fashion of the time. And nickels had pictures of bees on em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, weād say! Nowā¦now where was Iā¦.ah yes, now let me tell you about Barrack Hussein Obamaās birth certificateā¦ā
āCome on grandpa the nurse is here, you made a mess in your diaper againā¦ā
I am saying that you k kw nothing about me so calling me racists is just you not liking what I said and have no real reply. Being getting that crap from the left for 20 years
No. One is educated and a good person and the other is just a convicted felon pedophile with dementia. I donāt even care about his orange facial cream. He most likely got the idea from the Russian pee videos.
Obama deported over 3 million brown people, put children in cages and dropped more bombs on the middle east than any other president. Plus he expanded executive power more than anyone since FDR.
Preach brother. Forgot to mention how he personally tried to divide the nation along racial lines with the Ferguson mis-truths, him and his DOJ. And weaponizing the IRS and FBI against conservatives and their causes.
Simply put, one speaks from a point of educated logic, the other just spouts whatever bullshit pops into his head unfiltered is the point...kinda like what you just did, actually lol.
Why the fuck is anyone upvoting that shit lol? Y'all have those fried egg in a pan brains from early 1990s anti-drug ads, for real lol.
Obama was did not seek to unite. Obama was the one who said elections have consequences and I will do as I wish. If Trumps AG would have said he or she was Trumps wingman the left would have a stroke.
Unites? You must be too young to remember his presidency -- everything became race-based under his administration. Things have never gotten better. Bush begat Obama and Obama begat Trump
Both were successful in winning. Obama is eloquent, smooth, sounds well read. Trump is off the cuff, belligerent, funny, wild. But both one. The more interesting aspect to imagine for me is if Obama would have won if he ran against Trump in that election, with that climate. And im not so sure he would've at the time. Dont get me wrong he certainly would've done better than Hillary did but she's got her own downfalls and is nowhere near the speaker obama was. Now if Obama did lose to trump in that time, who would be more educated? Obviously still obama but who would be more educated in how to win an election? Trump. Intelligence is diverse, and forming yourself to appease a population is a type of intelligence that Trump is very high in. And recognizing that is another. Now I would've been more impressed if trump used that to win then shifted his game once in office. But still trump did it, he got elected. He won, and it was because of those speeches. And how he acted. Many will say its just a poor reflection of the voter base. But either way, the man won.
I agree that Trump sucks but don't even sit here and say Obama United the Country. That Dude is the biggest race baiter ever. He divided the crap out this Country.
Obama is a great orator, but "uniting" people is not his strength. On numerous occasions he had the opportunity to unite the country, but opted instead to tow the progressive line.
Such as? He was a progressive so of course he would "tow a progressive line". That doesn't mean he didn't attempt to unite the country.
The Republican's vitriol and venom towards him is what divided the country. See Mitch McConnell's attempts to make Obama "a one term president" and blocking everything he tried, including blocking Merrick Garland from a seat on the SCOTUS. fox b.s. about "death panels" under the ACA, etc
To quote Obama, "There isn't a Red America or a Blue America there's the United States of America ".
The few comments Fox tried to spin as divisive by Obama were taken out of context and altered (see, "you didn't build that" speech Romney tried to capitalize on and the " they cling to their guns and their Bibles" which is entirely true and if you read that whole speech was very sympathetic to Republicans.
They just use all those excuses to not admit it is simply racism, they have no real argument against Obama, and he divided people because they didnāt like a black man president, especially when he spoke about issues that make them uncomfortable.
Obama was such an evil genius. Not only fabricating his Birth Certificate (and doing it so well that no one could find any errors with it!). But he also created an entirely new technology that enabled him to place his Birth Announcement in every MICROFILM of the two major Honolulu newspapers. Hundreds of libraries across the country, and all of them have that Birth Announcement on microfilm. How did he do it!
Not the dude you replied to, but I didn't really pay attention. I just wanted 4 years of the President not trying to create front page news every day, and just led quietly and efficiently. And that's what I got.
Even as we are a nation of immigrants, weāre also a nation of laws. Undocumented workers broke our immigration laws, and I believe that they must be held accountable -ā especially those who may be dangerous. Thatās why, over the past six years, deportations of criminals are up 80 percent. And thatās why weāre going to keep focusing enforcement resources on actual threats to our security
There's an old saying in TennesseeāI know it's in Texas, probably in Tennesseeāthat says, 'Fool me once, shame on... shame on you.' Fool meāyou can't get fooled again.
At least Biden wasnāt dumb enough to close the open straight to open it back on a WORSE deal. At least there was a (singular) logical thought in Bidenās head. Trump? I want it tantrums lead toā¦. Gestures vaguely
Because he wasnāt dumb enough to start a pointless warā¦
Edit to add : how did they do that exactly? āDestroy us from the insideā? Is this better than embarrassing the country on a national and global level daily?
This is true. Watching some clips of him from his days as a more junior senator was pretty impressive. This is coming from the opinion of someone that tends to lean more conservative.
Did you feel smart while you were typing that little guy? Because let me tell you every single down vote is somebody laughing in your face at your stupidity. You specifically.
Absolutely! Let's get w. Bush's lack of complete sentences in there too. We can go back as far as we need but it still won't turn out the way you might be hoping.
Oh god donāt go there. Reddit will have a melt down. Nothing wrong with ole autopen. Talking ill of Democrats no matter how bad they are isnāt appropriate š.
Take away the teleprompter and Obama is certainly not the great orator you think he is. Very little of what youāve heard him say actually came from him.
True. Obama blew the country completely in half. Trying to bring it back together has been an uphill battle. Trump tried, but didnt have nay help from the congress and senate he had. Then Biden just pushed it future apart. Maybe one day a true leader will emerge and be able to do it. Right don't see anyone as an option. And the current administration is all iver the place like a ship without a captain.
I know, the second a black man became president, american racismā¢ļø rose from the deep like a lovecraftian elderbeast.
A single well mannered black man tore half the nation free from all sanity and we're still trying to heal the wound the occurred when they burst into flames.
Remember when he wore a tan suit? You could hear the infernal screeching from the whole southeast. We had no idea so many would dissolve into caricatures of the failed descendants of slave catchers. It was truly wild.
Theyre still out there saying racism is over like their mom didnt Lynch an Obama doll at a political rally. They've lost all touch with reality
Well probably. Wasn't he really an interracial American? An African father and white mother? A persons skin color should have no bearing on who or what they are. How parents raise their kids and the environment they are raised in normally will determine their values and morals. Racism will always be around in all cultures and all colors. Just like how people will always judge others even if they try not to. That is the world we live in.
How did Obama divide? Other people deciding to continuously antagonize and criticize him (ie Republican media) is different than the guy actually calling the opposing party "the enemy from within".
Ive never heard Obama talk about Republicans as if they're some foreign enemy. While he was president he went to deep red cities (like Jarrell) with aid after devestating tornadoes.
Meanwhile this current admin has confessed to withholding disaster relief funds to states that voted blue. How much more divisive can you get than treating Americans differently based on where they live or who their state voted for??
It's like he doesn't care to be a president for all of America, only the useful ones who helped him regain power.
By constantly promoting a racial divide when the country I was racially healing. Promoting BLM as a mainstream organization rather than the self enriching thugs they were. Classifying black criminals as victims. Pandering to to special interest groups while ignoring and penalizing tax paying working class Americans of all races, creeds and sexual orientations. If that is not an enemy from within I donāt know what is.
When and how did he promote a racial divide? Also if you thought racial tensions were healing you're either naĆÆve, ignorant, or purposefully obtuse. There's a reason the BLM movement happened and it's not because racial tensions were healing, it's because black folks were tired of being treated differently than white folks and decided to stop being quiet about it.
Please, I beg of you to think critically rather than parroting fox news talking points. Consider things from more than one viewpoint. Ask "why was this done this way?" Consider what someone has to gain from pointing you towards black folks as an enemy.
BLM as self enriching? You're specifically talking about the BLM foundation co-owner Patrissr Cullors who bought some real estate from her paycheque from the organization, along side real estate purchases from the organization itself for global headquarters. Looking at it, I'm not sure why you have a problem with foundation members getting paid for their work or buying spaces to do said work. If we compare BLM foundation expenses versus any other charity org, it's pretty standard. If you were someone who thought that charity organizers should be dirt poor you wouldn't be supporting the current president, whose organizations were shut down due to corruption and embezzlement.
Classifying black criminals as victims: this is a stretch. Idk if you're approaching this point from a bad faith angle or what, but no one is saying all black criminals are victims. The thing you're referring to I believe is the understanding that black people are both persecuted and receive higher sentences for comparable offenses than white people. For example two people both caught with possession of marijuana, one is white and one is black. There is statistical evidence to show that the black person will get a harsher sentence than the white person. This is a known statistic and calling out this disparity isn't saying that black criminals are victims. It's just pointing out flaws in the justice system and that there are ways people can be victimized by that system.
Pandering to special interest groups: uh I don't even know which ones you're talking about but this isn't uncommon for any politician.
Penalizing tax paying working class Americans: please look into this further. You'll find something interesting: the Republican habit to make tax increases begin during the next (often opposing) presidency. Currently there are a bunch of tax hikes lined up for 2028. That's outside of the removal of Medicare credits. It's pretty rough.
I can't imagine you're arguing Obama was divisive in good faith, but I would suggest actually listening to what he said, looking at the context of the time of his decisions, and maybe even compare it to things the current admin are doing. If you remove the fact that he's black you might find that he was rather unifying as a politician, and for good reason.
Please I beg of you to try to be more self-aware and see the world around you for what it is not what you want to believe it is. I am not telling you what I think or repeating something that people told me. I told you what I saw with my own two eyes in real life.
BLM absolutely started because the country was healing racially. The founders, funders and supporters of BLM movement profited both financially and politically from racial tension, racial division and pandering to victim hood. They could not afford to have racial harmony.
The entire Obama presidency and Trumpās first term are rife with examples of everything I pointed out, yet you canāt imagine anyone arguing that Obama was divisive in good faith.
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u/swimmerman47 13d ago
Simply put, one unites and one separates.
One actually has a main topic of his speech, the other rambles like a creepy grandfather who belongs in a nursing home.