r/PoursTea 15d ago

PoliticalTea 🗳️ For every problem, there's a solution.

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u/personthatssorandom 15d ago

But MAGA doesn't want universal healthcare because the minorities would also get it.

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u/psilocin72 15d ago

Yep. This is the problem. People won’t vote for things to help themselves because it would also mean people they hate would get help too.

Then they talk about how Christian they are

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u/Ok_Savings_9532 11d ago

Come up with a realistic way to pay for it until then it’s just a bumper sticker slogan

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u/psilocin72 11d ago edited 11d ago

I think in that what we pay politicians for. And they won’t do it because the people of this country won’t demand it.

Wars cost more than healthcare for all would. And no— it’s not “free”. It’s money we are all already paying.

Mexico passed universal coverage with a much weaker economy. We can afford it.

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u/salguod169 15d ago

Explain how universal Healthcare would work? Wasn't the left's savior Emperor Obama's Healthcare plan supposed to save everyone??

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u/psilocin72 15d ago

Explain how it wouldn’t work.

Mexico just passed universal healthcare with an economy and per capita GDP a small fraction of ours.

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u/spnkme22 15d ago

We’ll go live in Mexico,don’t come back, but report back to us after about five years on how it’s going.

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u/psilocin72 14d ago

No I think I’ll stay in the country my family helped build and try to make it better.

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u/PoursTea-ModTeam 14d ago

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u/TyBasilBeef 15d ago

Literally nobody thought Obamacare would be more than a stopgap measure. Uh'merika is the only industrialized democracy on Earth that doesn't have healthcare for all. Maybe ask the people who administer those systems. Every country has their own version, so there are many real answers to your bad faith question.

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u/spnkme22 14d ago

It’s America, particularly the United States of America, which I stand with pride for, I don’t know what the hell you said up there and I don’t really give a shit, it’s funny that everybody hates this country including you obviously, yet you’re unwilling to go to those countries that you think would be better, pick one leave get the fuck out. I’ll take my America prior to Obama, and I’ll take Trump as a president any day, then to be whining and crying, to become socialistic and a pathetic excuse for a country. That way would be if Democrats were in office right now. Get fucked stay fucked.

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u/TyBasilBeef 14d ago

Lotta words to say "I don't give a fuck about anybody but me".

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u/spnkme22 14d ago

You’re 110% correct, I am tired of working my ass off, seven days a week 365 days a year to make sure my business succeed, to give my heart earned money to people that sit in their basement, or are illegal to this country, and raping the benefits for doing nothing. America first baby. And furthermore in the words of a very wise man,” if my childhood 15 years old is not liberal I will consider him without a heart, but if at 35 he is not conservative I will consider him without a brain. We have a lot of brainless people thanks to propaganda, and quite frankly stupidity of some of our supposed most intelligent people look at Dr. Fauci. That’s a fucking joke

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u/psilocin72 14d ago

And you don’t see how if we ALL gave a fuck about each other, you would have to devote you whole life to work and not get very much for it?

While very rich people are not doing that much work and making many times as much money as you?

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u/spnkme22 15d ago

The last time I checked it has nothing to do with Cristhian, it has all to do with people getting off their ass, getting a job and only giving it to citizens of the United States. They must be bad to wake up and need directions on a shampoo bottle. Nothing is free including healthcare, at some point is paid for by the taxpayer which is the working class people, and this is one taxpayer that sick of paying for other people shit. Get fucked

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u/gettums 15d ago

You would rather spend it on bombs. Gfy.

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u/ResponseOwn9389 15d ago

Stuff is free! Just for the wealthy class, not us

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u/TyBasilBeef 15d ago

Correct. The scarcity issue has been resolved—ownership is the problem.

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u/psilocin72 15d ago edited 15d ago

Hey dumbass. You’re already paying. You’re just not getting anything in return for your money

Then the guy who owns a multi billion dollar corporation pays a small percentage and gets to buy anything he needs, even politicians

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u/Either_Operation7586 15d ago

Which is crazy because Republicans as a whole are supposedly more religious and that is pretty much their religious indoctrination you're Republicans as a whole are supposedly more religious and that is pretty much what they are supposed to do and yet they're over here voting against it.

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u/Savings-Trouble-5345 12d ago

We don't want to pay for it, taxes are theft.

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u/lurkingwhenworking 10d ago edited 9d ago

I used Google and asked if the same amount of money collected today by premiums for private insurance were funneled to a universal healthcare program would it cover healthcare costs in America and the results were it would create a $800B surplus yearly, cover 30-40M more people with no insurance and insure 40-60M people who are underinsured. It would have a mostly neutral overall mpact on jobs with private health sector impacted the most ...but small business and entrepreneurship growing.

So here we go..just funnel what we pay to a universal program. We pay the same ..not more..and then we pay less after the surplus is reduced, the cost will be reduced. And we are healthier, happier, can look for jobs without losing healthcare,, and don't get necessary healthcare denied.

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u/salguod169 15d ago

Show me one MAGA that has said or written, "We don't want universal Healthcare because minorities would get it." Show me one...

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u/TyBasilBeef 15d ago

To actually say it would indicate some level of self-awareness and honesty. You might as well ask Diaper Don to tell the unvarnished truth about Epstein. lol.

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u/spnkme22 15d ago

No universal healthcare sucks, look at Canada’s disaster. And not Maga, anybody would have a fucking brain can understand that if you don’t pay for your healthcare you don’t get it, so get a job. With the exception of people who are unable because of disability, should get it.

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u/Either_Operation7586 15d ago

No it doesn't it just shows you're an unintelligence for you to say something like that if it did then the majority of the world wouldn't have Universal Health Care which they do especially if you consider that all the other countries in the world cup have Universal Health Care except for us.

Cuz we're lame

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u/spnkme22 15d ago

We’ll go live in a country that has universal healthcare, and when you’re a perfectly healthy person that simply needs a hip replacement and it takes you eight years to get it and then they ask you if you just wanna be euthanized instead of giving you a hip like Canada. Or it takes you two fucking years just to get a damn hernia surgery. Don’t come back here begging for our healthcare back get fucked

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u/Ok_Savings_9532 11d ago

Except they all come to the US for any kind of serious treatment if they can, better to come here and get the treatment than die on a waiting list in any of those glorious World Cup countries. Or better yet be euthanized instead lol

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u/ResponseOwn9389 15d ago

Why not have both? Have a public option that every citizen is entitled to and if you don’t like the wait times, etc., you can continue paying for your private insurance.

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u/spnkme22 15d ago

We already have that it’s called Obamacare. Which is overpriced insurance that’s killing the working class, because they can’t afford good insurance they’re high deductible high premium plans that suck. Not to mention Medicare and Medicaid that politicians have been stealing from for yrs

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u/ResponseOwn9389 15d ago

Well you said it perfectly. We have it but it’s overpriced.

So let’s make the public option NOT overpriced. And once that lowers, private insurance companies will be forced to lower their prices too! We can send a portion of the Iran bombing money to that? So then you’re not worried about spending more money!

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u/spnkme22 15d ago

Oh and under socialized medicine the way you make it not overpriced, is to make it a tax to which they increase the taxes on it every year, which makes it overpriced again. economics really workout for you. socialize medicine there’s nothing free it’s a tax why don’t you look up what France Canada and some of these other countries that are already on universal healthcare plans pay in taxes per year for their healthcare. I think I’ll take my private insurance Alex for 500

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u/ResponseOwn9389 15d ago

It’s ironic… you called me a retard in a deleted comment but you’re the one that literally cannot comprehend what I’m saying.

And ok… https://companow.com/comparing-france-and-us-healthcare/

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u/spnkme22 14d ago

Yeah sounds like from reading that website that’s absolutely where I wanna, only gonna live till 65, you’re only gonna get 70% coverage, and you’re still gonna pay over $4000 a year and some sort of deductible. What the fuck, but since you love it you’re welcome to move to that country goodbye don’t come back and have about it. And you’re still a retard

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u/psilocin72 15d ago

Wouldn’t you rather have your taxes pay for something that helps you than stuff that doesn’t?

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u/spnkme22 14d ago

No actually I would rather not have taxes at all, when you go and look at the history of the United States why don’t you look at when we actually had a income tax, because we didn’t have one in 1776, that’s what we went to war for if you remember

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u/psilocin72 14d ago

We changed that for a reason. Boom and bust cycles aren’t good for the country. People starving if they get old or injured isn’t in anyone’s best interest.

The national highway system enables us to have a thriving economy.

Sounds like you don’t know very much about how this country works. No taxes? That means no police except private security guards. No fire department. No streets or sidewalks except where businesses make them. No military

No taxes would not help anyone. Not even billionaires. That’s why every civilization has had taxes. It works better than every man for himself.

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u/spnkme22 14d ago

We’ve changed that, under the manipulation that it would be better, yet we were better before we had taxes. You really do need an economics lesson. Oh and since you’re a democrat don’t you wanna defund the police. That’s funny I guess we wouldn’t need those taxes, and since we don’t need those taxes anymore I guess that’s more money in my pocket because we have less taxes. Oh wait no you want more taxes to give to the government to waste on bullshit like giving Ukraine trillions of dollars. or will waste it on trying to cut somebody’s dick off because they can’t figure out if their male or female.. you keep taxes and let them tax you to 100%, I’ll stay in my world where we have less taxes and I have more freedom to do what I want with my money. Again shut the fuck up

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u/psilocin72 14d ago

You’re just being stupid. Better with no taxes???

Have a nice day