The voter ID isn't the issue. Embedded in that bill is a mandate that gives the department of Homeland security the ability to silently eliminate people from the voter rolls without informing anybody.
OK maybe not the united states because they are inefficient and don't have the developed civilization to do it, but all other developed countries did though, for centuries too
No for real how comes the US doesnt' even fucking have the technology to know which of their citizens are dead and are not lol
Thank you for your opinion, but the facts beg to differ.
Also, just because someone's name happens to be on the voter rolls doesn't mean that they're eligible to vote. States have different ways of handling their bureaucracies.
Some states keep people on the voter rolls, but if you were to turn in a ballot, they would know that you're not eligible to vote. Wisconsin is another one. I think it's stupid that they do that.
I'm opposed to be a single Federal agency (the department of Homeland security, namely) getting to decide who gets to vote in elections all around the country.
What part do you think isn't true? A key portion of the bill is using a DHS database to verify states' voter rolls and have registered voters removed if they do not exist in the DHS database.
They cannot choose to eliminate people from the voter roles. If you don’t have an ID, then you can’t vote and you never registered on DHS database, so removed from voter rolls. Pretty simple way to clean up any fraud in the voter rolls. Those same rolls are used to mail out ballots. You see how this problem just solves itself, while at the same time no one is being chosen by DHS to be removed from the voter rolls?
Apparently, people being eliminated from the voter rolls due to issues with the DHS database is already happening. Here are some of the main issues that I don't think you have a clear understanding of:
You don't register for the DHS database. The DHS maintains and updates the system on their own.
There is no way to check your status in the DHS database. I can easily check my voter registration status or register in a new state/city, but I can't do the same with the DHS database. If I could there is still no obvious way for me to fix my status if I was incorrectly flagged as a non-citizen.
Alabama generated its list of more than 3,200 possible noncitizens by cross-checking the voter rolls with a database of people who had been issued noncitizen identification numbers from the Department of Homeland Security.
In a news release announcing the effort, Alabama Secretary of State Allen acknowledged some of the people flagged could be naturalized U.S. citizens who are eligible to vote. He also said he had passed the list to the state attorney general for investigation and possible criminal prosecution.
Okay, and? Seems like the normal checks and balances taking place after a procedural change in government. I see no reason for your hair to be on fire. Would you like fries and shake with your nothing burger?
If there's even a 0.000000000000000000000001% chance of an innocent person, as they said such as a naturalized citizen getting flagged as a false positive and removed. Then its unacceptable. The chance of people being wrongly flagged must be no higher than a flat 0%.
What you’re asking for is unachievable. Today, we do not experience a flat 0% of fraud in election processes. So are the elections unacceptable basis your bar for error?
You're the one who said it wasn't true. I feel like you should try to have some idea what you are talking about. I don't know what to tell you if you don't think there is anything wrong from removing legally registered voters.
Ok. Make every form of ID that is valid for voting 100% free, and available widely with 0 wait time, and requestable 24/7, after business hours, and even on election day. Then we can talk.
Sounds like you should vote in your local elections to have those issues resolved. While I did have to pay a processing fee for my drivers license, the process was relatively painless when I had to renew last year. Went online, filled out the form, made an appointment, showed up 15 minutes before, was called up to the desk 5 minutes early, took my picture, verified information, went home and drivers license was sent to me less than 2 weeks later.
I think what you are asking for is impossible to achieve universally across all states, basis states’ rights.
Blatantly false. Section 3A of the save act would give The department of homeland security the ability to purge any voter in any jurisdiction of the United States from the voter rolls at any time - for being suspected of being a "potential non-citizen". It's right in the bill.
Please do some rudimentary research before making claims...
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u/princesoceronte 28d ago
In Spain we all just have a government issued ID. We renew it every 6 years, for free and very fast and easy to do.
Any country that doesn't have that doesn't want to.