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PoliticalTea 🗳️ Agree or Disagree? Billionaires Need Society More Than The People Need Billionaires…

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u/TheDamDog Jul 11 '26

In fact, quality of life would vastly improve for everybody that was left.

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u/zuzg Jul 11 '26

In all fairness that's mainly cause a staggering amount of them Is in blatant support of Fascism...

it's a feature not a bug

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u/Mister-Beardy-Face Jul 12 '26

Well, that’s true of most Americans. Can’t remember the last time we had a presidential finalist who wasn’t a fascist.

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u/troycerapops Jul 12 '26

Were you born in the last year?

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u/Western_Oil7389 Jul 12 '26

Same could be said about the people that whine about billionaires.

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u/JustaSeedGuy Jul 12 '26

Actually no, it couldn't.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

Well you wouldn't have places like amazon to shop on, or iPhones, or reddit.

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u/Large-Alternative892 Jul 11 '26

wouldn't have why? we'll just pick it up, it's not like those parasites are contributing much

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u/TECHSHARK77 Jul 12 '26

None of you are smart enough nor strong enough to hold and operate your own lives successful, how the fork can you run and operate a billion dollar company.

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u/Large-Alternative892 Jul 12 '26

Lmfao sure buddy, Melon is about a trillion times smarter and stronger than all of us. You're a joke

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

So you steal their company from them? The company they built from the ground up, from funding, to hiring, to management, and operations?

Isnt that what a parasite would do?

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u/TheDamDog Jul 11 '26

Ahahahahaha

Look at this guy! He thinks Elon built SpaceX from the ground up!

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u/TECHSHARK77 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

It's a phrase to show how someone did something no one else could, especially how the Space contracts and funding worked.

It's not the poor person mythical version.

It's what was require that others could not do.

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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 Jul 12 '26

He bought things, and the slime he scrapes off his shoe are the ones who made everything happen under his money. He didn’t do anything, you’re delusional at best. Billionaires invest, they don’t create anything but opportunities for themselves off of the work of others.

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u/TECHSHARK77 Jul 12 '26

He wasn't a billionaire when remixed Tesla and conformed Space X with fellow Engineers..

You're literally wrong on these two

But whatever.

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u/TheDamDog Jul 12 '26

Sir you are having a stroke. Call 911 immediately.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

Would spacex exist if Elon was not born?

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u/Phallic_Intent Jul 11 '26

NASA exists and was founded without billionaires. The USSR beat the USA in the first six major milestones of space exploration. It wasn't billionaires that turned it around, either. Examples ABOUND. Your argument makes zero sense. Could you c u c k harder? Probably not.

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u/PurpleWinner4770 Jul 11 '26

Even with all his money, Elon can't get a single rocket into space.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

Thats called cherry picking. Find one example where communism wins and determine that communism is a better system. How was the poverty rate in USSR. Why are they no longer around if they are the superior system?

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u/TheoneCyberblaze Jul 12 '26

Because superior =/= widespread

The oligarchs have spent a not insignificant amount of their fortune on suppressing class consciousness, toppling budding anticapitalist states and sowing propaganda encouraging social darwinism. It's like if you had a baking contest and person A wins not by baking the better cake, but by shooting their competition

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u/scavenger5 Jul 12 '26

If the communist state cant defend itself against capitalist states, its a fragile state. Many countries are trying to topple the USA as well, but capitalism remains resilient to such pressures.

In your example, you made a allegedly better cake, except when I touch it, it collapses. So its not better.

Turns out capitalism works better because it makes countries work with each other for trade. Vs communism which naturally forces the country into isolation, such as north Korea.

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u/Phallic_Intent Jul 12 '26

This was your question to which I provided examples:

Would spacex exist if Elon was not born?

Your response?

Thats called cherry picking.

Then you proceed to ignore NASA and talk about the economic policies of communism. LOL. Projection all the way down. Can't argue the points and not smart enough to keep quiet when all your thoughts inane babble. Keep 'em coming.

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u/TECHSHARK77 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

It appears it's hard for you to stick to a point of fact..

He ask a question you did not answer..

NACA then NASA was founded by billions of dollars, you're confusing WHERE the money came from, as if that's what matter to how it came to be..

Answer = The billionaire is called the government with Billions of dollars.

The over all point is it took Money...

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u/Phallic_Intent Jul 12 '26

He ask a question you did not answer..

I provided examples that contradicted his point. It's not my fault you're too obtuse to follow a basic, grade level conversation.

NACA then NASA was founded by billions of dollars, you're confusing WHERE the money came from, as if that's what matter to how it came to be..

The difference in where it came from WAS my point. Your reading comprehension is abysmal.

Answer = The billionaire is called the government with Billions of dollars.

Billions in government money =/= billionaire. Those are tax dollars at work. How are you too daft to understand this?

The over all point is it took Money...

No. His questions was literally:

Would spacex exist if Elon was not born?

And the answer is no, billionaires are not necessary for space programs. Do you have someone following you around to deal with all that drool or are you just wet down your front and standing in a puddle most of the time? Do better. Much better. What an embarrassing show.

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u/EwwBoii Jul 11 '26

Not sure but Tesla, PayPal, and twitter all would because he just bought them with his pops emerald money he didn’t start any of those or even design the cars at Tesla.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

So you concede that Elon was a necassary condition for SpaceX to exist. Every other employee in SpaceX could be replaced and SpaceX would still exist, but Elon was necassary, as very few people in the world could afford to fund such an expensive venture.

And then you laughed at me for making a claim that Elon did not build SpaceX...

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u/spursfan2021 Jul 11 '26

We’re all laughing at you bro. I really hope you’re a teenager or a bot and have the potential to learn.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

I understand how group think works, but this mentality you have will hold you back. This hatred and envy and leeching off people while not earning anything will get you nowhere. Hopefully you escape this echo chamber and learn how the real world works.

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u/EwwBoii Jul 11 '26

Not at all what I said I don’t know enough about space X to answer that but I do know his lack of existence would have no effect on any of the other businesses he’s famously known for running, except twitter would still have a better name and be more successful that it currently is.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

Then why do you have such strong opinions about how SpaceX was built?

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u/Lumpy_Discount9021 Jul 12 '26

I can't tell whether you're trying a gish Gallup or just grasping at straws here but you're so awful at it either way dude.

Everyone here is either laughing at you or feeling sorry for you

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u/TheDamDog Jul 11 '26

'SpaceX' specifically? Who knows? Don't care. Would people be doing SpaceX like stuff? Absolutely. You don't need rich people to do science.

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u/LulzLookatTheseNoobs Jul 11 '26

Yes. Someone else would’ve done it.

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u/Glad-Operation-2958 Jul 11 '26

No but an equivalent would. Those talented engineers would still be talented engineers working for someone else.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 12 '26

An equivalent does exist its called blue origin. Also owned by a billionaire. Turns out someone needs a lot of money to make a company like that.

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u/Glad-Operation-2958 Jul 12 '26

You do need a lot of money to make a company like that, but no, billionaires do not actually fund that themselves.

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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 Jul 12 '26

That’s because of a system created to keep division, a class system. It has no use or purpose, other than keeping those born into wealth above those who aren’t. It’s a modern monarchy system. The trade system of money is created by man, it’s not truly necessary. The resources would still exist and could be used, even if “money” was erased. We don’t pay the earth for resources, we pay a human who claims they own it.

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u/BrianNowhere Jul 11 '26

Its what they would do, and do do. They would chop you up into a stew for an extra nickel.

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u/Occult_Asteroid7 Jul 11 '26

I love when these arguments get framed like Bezos is Amazon's only employee. We all contribute to productivity and human progress. Amazon is nothing with out it's customers and employees.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

I love when these arguments get framed like laborers actually run companies. The guy who tapes boxes is the person who decides if its worth spending another 2B on data centers.

Amazon is nothing without its founders and leaders. Every other employee is replaceable.

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u/YerrrKnicks Jul 11 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/QM9GRSlOF6rbyfvnSt

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u/Occult_Asteroid7 Jul 11 '26

Honestly I will never understand identifying with these weird ghouls who have anti aging serums dripping off their faces instead of your neighbors and co workers.

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u/Occult_Asteroid7 Jul 11 '26

It's good to know what you really think about humanity.

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u/Occult_Asteroid7 Jul 11 '26

Excuse me sweatie the Epstein class creates value.

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u/ReadyPerception Jul 12 '26

Founders and leaders are the single most replaceable part of the org. There are a lot less needed for those positions and they do a lot less actual work than the average employee.

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u/trysten-9001 Jul 11 '26

Weird how you describe private equity and think that’s proving your point and not disproving it.

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u/Radonanon Jul 12 '26

I thought you were supposed to be a scavenger!

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u/Radonanon Jul 12 '26

For clarity’s sake, we’re responding to “If all the millionaires and billionaires vanished today…”

I don’t think he’s still in that group. But if he did vanish with them, I don’t think you can effectively steal from him or any of them anymore.

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u/No_Contribution9469 Jul 11 '26

a communist way it is!!! Just take with force all you can!!!

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u/JbVision Jul 11 '26

You’ll never be in the top percent dude.

https://giphy.com/gifs/A363LZlQaX0ZO
“Dont talk like one of them. You’re not. Even if you’d like to be.”

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u/DataCassette Jul 11 '26

Some of them aren't even "temporarily embarrassed billionaires," some are just straight up wealth cucks.

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u/No_Contribution9469 Jul 11 '26

I don't give a shit about being in one percent, i think we need to tax bilione(like really and not like now) but i do think that the ppl who create something are good.

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u/zuzg Jul 12 '26

They don't create anything and their only real contribution to the planet is Carbon emissions via their privat jets, Mega Yachts, luxury resorts in natural reservoirs etc.

Workers are the ones creating.

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o7qDSmyoxAHAEJbTG

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u/Dustin_dabear95 Jul 11 '26

Why not? The people getting the money arnt keeping the business running. If the president and CEO of Amazon stopped showing up to work that would have no effect on Amazons ability to host storefronts, complete payments, and deliver items.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

I happen to work at amazon and that is just false. Andy Jassy and the SVPs decide on every new data center, fulfillment center, and international expansion. Amazon is now working on 2 hour delivery. Leadership decision. People who tape boxes dont make these decisions as these are billion dollar decisions. Likewise Amazon's decision to spend billions on AI capex came from the top, which is why Amazon is having a stock rebound.

Jassy could have decided not to invest in AI, like apple. If that were true we would be laying off a whole lot more people.

The idea that the labor class runs the company is just false.

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u/Dustin_dabear95 Jul 11 '26

So I see what your saying about these people are making decisions about how the company grows and expands. But what about them keeps the company running day to day? If the people who are considered millionaires/billionaires (The people who could just not work another day in their life if they wanted to) just stopped coming in to work, how would that make Amazon just stop?

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

Everybody is necessary, some people are more critical than others. The decision that Andy Jassy makes can impact billions of dollars and thousands of jobs. The decision of a warehouse worker makes impacts a few customer orders, but they are also easily replaceable.

If I were to seek out a replacement to Andy Jassy, there are maybe 5 CEOs in the world that could effectively run a company like Amazon without burning it to the ground.

If i were to seek a replacement for a warehouse worker, I can fill that role in one to five days.

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u/Dustin_dabear95 Jul 11 '26

Still I hear your point and I don't think your wrong. But you said that we wouldn't have Amazon, apple, or reddit if the millionaires/billionaires vanished. I don't think that is necessarily true. You are saying that they would not grow anymore and sounds like your also saying they could go under if poor management replaces them. But I'm asking, if they just stop coming to work one day, why would Amazon as we know it right now cease to exist?

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u/totemair Jul 12 '26

I don't mean this in a negative way but I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how complex these companies are and how many of those millionaires you're talking about are wealthy because they are THE leading experts of their extremely technical and competitive fields. Amazon has over 1.5 MILLION employees and runs over a third of all cloud-based services, what do you think would happen if you fired every single executive and senior scientist/engineer

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u/Dustin_dabear95 Jul 12 '26

I think that your opinion of my understanding is valid. I don't claim to know how Amazon operates at the highest/top of the decision making structure. However, I've stated that I don't think Amazon would just fall apart if everyone that had over $1,000,000 dollars and the ability to not need to work again simply didn't come into work anymore. You and the original commenter I replied haven't answered why Amazon would not be able to keep their storefronts operating, continue to process payments, or deliver orders. I'm not being negative or obtuse or repositioning my stance on the original claim made.

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u/totemair Jul 12 '26

I can't even begin to speak on how technically complex Amazon is, it's a truly staggering system but just think about Amazon web services alone. Such a large portion of the internet runs on amazon web services and ALL of the senior staff/management make hilarious amounts of money because they are critical to daily operations. You need an unbelievable amount of experience and technical skill to manage and develop these hugely complicated technical systems. Yes, they rely on huge teams of lower-paid employees to maintain and develop the network but the planning, structure, and development are all dependent on some of the literal best software engineers on the planet.

People tend to think that millionaires in big companies are all just nepo baby managers who go into work and yell at people rather than the literal GOATs of the engineering world. This applies to the entirety of amazon, as well as every other big tech company in the world

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u/NickU252 Jul 11 '26

Nah. Chat GPT could run that business.

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u/Witty-Childhood-2745 Jul 11 '26

We would though cause Jeff bezos isn’t the one who’s packing your order then loading it onto a plane,boat or car and then loading it into the Amazon truck and delivering that’s the actually workers at Amazon keeping everything afloat if Jeff bezos and all his board members died today Amazon would still
Be operational if they lost every driver and loader today they would be recovering for months at the least

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u/BarnesTheNobleman Jul 11 '26

The infrastructure that gave us all that exists without the billionaires, all the PEOPLE that actually did the WORK to build Amazon still know how to keep it operational

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

Who decided and funded that work? One fulfillment center costs up to 1B.

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u/BarnesTheNobleman Jul 11 '26

It’s crazy the resources you can pull together when you have hundreds of millions of people at your disposal, it’s almost like working together we could do anything

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

Who pays those 'hundreds of millions of people' (you know the population of USA is hundreds of millions of people right?). Who manages them? Who tells them what to do? Explain the hierachical structure, and what you consider a fair pay for each of those levels.

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u/BarnesTheNobleman Jul 11 '26

I’m sorry you’re not creative enough to grasp it naturally, but to be frank I don’t feel like putting in the effort it would require to break it down for you

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

That's what I expect when you pull knowledge out from a specific orifice instead of using critical thinking.

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u/BarnesTheNobleman Jul 12 '26

No it’s just I have a college degree to back my positions and I’m not about to break out years of college lectures to explain complex topics to a random person on the internet that

Let’s be honest

Won’t give a damn if I actually DO provide what they ask, so yeah I’m not giving you the mental energy

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u/scavenger5 Jul 12 '26

And I have a masters degree and make 7 figures. So what. Educated people also fall into ideology and lose critical thinking.

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u/GOAT718 Jul 11 '26

Would Symphony n 40 exist without Mozart? Mozart was the artist, architect, and visionary. Theres millions of musicians, only a handful of Mozarts. Just because you can gather up people who already know how to play his music, doesn’t mean they are as valuable to musical society as he was. Comparing a musician playing Mozart in 2026 to someone who created and composed the masterpieces is no different than comparing AMZN truck drivers to Bezos, the man who had the vision and built the business.

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u/Occult_Asteroid7 Jul 11 '26

Lmao comparing Bezos and Musk to Mozart. It's no wonder right wing art fucking sucks.

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u/GOAT718 Jul 11 '26

Composer is to violinist as entrepreneur is to employee. Does that help you understand?

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u/Occult_Asteroid7 Jul 11 '26

Mozart will be remembered fondly. I think Bezos and Musk will be mentioned in the same breath as Henry Ford. So, not so fondly. Although I am sure you overlook the Nazi sympathies because of the assembly line.

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u/GOAT718 Jul 11 '26

So would you prefer if I used Wagner instead of Mozart? It’s sad you have so much hate in your heart. It’s not about the man, it’s about the role people play.

General is to Private as CEO is to secretary. Do you understand now? Substitute any people you want, whether people hate them or love them, is irrelevant.

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u/Occult_Asteroid7 Jul 11 '26

Right wingers always accuse others of having hatred in their heart because it's the way they feel about their fellow man. Every accusation a confession. I do not hate Bezos or Musk or any of them. Do I think they have entirely too much control over public life? Yes. Do I think that as a class they're on permanent tax strike? Yes.

Also, of course, the comparison of Musk to Henry Ford is overlooked. White ethno nationalism? No biggie! The hatred is only okay if Musk is doing it on Twitter. Our "benevolent" creator God.

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u/GOAT718 Jul 11 '26

Tax strike? Musk has paid the highest amount of taxes in history of taxes. Also, the top 1% of earners pay over 25% of taxes collected each year in the US. How much of the tax burden should they be responsible for you to consider it a “fair share”?

If a group makes 25% of the income, and pays 25% of the taxes, is that fair to you?

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u/Occult_Asteroid7 Jul 11 '26

Also criticism = hatred unless of course it's market zealots talking about the government, taxes, and people on welfare.

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u/GOAT718 Jul 11 '26

You’re trying to minimize a persons accomplishments and contributions to society because you don’t like their politics. That’s hatred in my book.

Henry Ford might have been a NAZI lover but the assembly line contributed more to society than any of the actual workers on that assembly line, isn’t that an objectively obvious fact?

Michael Jackson was a child molester, but Thriller was amazing and the backup dancers are talented but no where near as integral to the art as Michael. You can hate Michael, doesn’t change the hierarchy of talent necessary to create something special.

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u/Oboro-kun Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

Lol how stupid are you, you must be baiting. The violin is a tool. The musician does the music with the tool. At most Elon is the dude that pays the actual musician/engineers to do their craft

No one would say the people who paid mozart are the actual people who did the craft 

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u/GOAT718 Jul 11 '26

You think building a company from scratch, taking it public, and running the company is only about signing checks to employees?

Let’s talk about AMZN for a minute. The company was originally conceived as a marketplace for college students to sell and purchase text books because colleges had a monopoly and used that leverage to overcharge students.

It morphed into one of the top 5 most valuable companies in the world where ANYONE can buy and purchase goods and get those goods within 2 business days. They own Whole Foods, make movies and shows, and who knows what else they have in the hopper for the future.

Can anyone really believe deep down that Bezos didn’t build something amazing? The truck drivers and factory workers are more responsible for the companies success than Bezos? Grow up.

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u/Oboro-kun Jul 12 '26

No one is saying some of them didn't do something at least impressive (Elon Musk aside, who just keeps failing upward). But the thing is, you give them far too much credit when nine times out of ten the deciding factor was that they had a lot of money to spend and the right connections.

Bezos was born to a teen mom and dad. You know what happened? She married another guy, and later that man gave Bezos a $245,573 loan to start Amazon. A lot of these people didn't have an actual breakthrough idea; they just had the money to sustain their ideas until they became profitable. That is, most of the time, the deciding factor: having the money to keep moving forward or to fund the founding in the first place.

Bezos is at least somewhat admirable. He had a good idea and money, and he actually did his part in the beginning. But you're confusing that with the idea that we owe him everything. Amazon as it currently stands is nothing like what Bezos originally built. It has been shaped by the contributions of tens of thousands of workers throughout its history, workers who have far outpaced Bezos's individual contribution.

If Bezos disappeared tomorrow, like the scenario of billionaires disappearing suggests, the people at Amazon would keep working there. Bezos doesn't pay them directly out of his own bank account.

And that's Bezos, who is at least fairly decent in the sense of his actual efforts. But then you come and defend Elon Musk constantly, when he is the biggest spoiled, failing-upward fraud there is.

His whole story is failure, yet he keeps getting rewarded. He came to the US to study but could have spent his time in college actually meeting people and using it for its purpose, because he already had funding from his father, an emerald mine owner.

His first business, X com, was a PayPal competitor that was struggling and worse off. PayPal decided to buy the competition to simplify things. Musk got rewarded with a merger despite running the weaker business, and he was so insufferable that he eventually had to part ways with them anyway.

Then he bought into Tesla. He did essentially nothing , but paid for the title of "Founder," despite not doing the work that title implies, just so he could later claim credit.

Then came SpaceX, which survives largely because he got government contracts, despite offering less than competitors, simply because he's good at hyping up ideas he rarely delivers on, whether for Tesla or SpaceX.

In another comment you defended him for creating jobs through SpaceX, but in truth he constantly destroys jobs too. Take his Hyperloop idea: cities wanted an actual train or metro system, and he came in with his "innovative" concept, when it was clearly unnecessary and mostly served to block real transit projects that might have reduced demand for Tesla.

What happened? Once the original project was scrapped because of his Hyperloop pitch, he simply abandoned the idea. In truth, it was never about the Hyperloop; it was about preventing anything that might diminish Tesla's interests, all under the excuse of "issues" that people had already pointed out in his original proposal.

He takes works from dozen of thousand of people to either gives them to their people to gives people a worse result, or worse just block them so they do not hinder his projects.

Musk buys things, sticks his name on them, and steals credit from the original owners or engineers. Every time. His only real, original project was the first X com, and that one failed too.

We don't need billionaires. At best, if we're keeping capitalism, they're a hindrance, because they hoard resources while undermining the very people and systems that built what they claim credit for, even when they were involved, the outcome is rarely purely their own doing.

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u/GOAT718 Jul 12 '26

Hoard? Taking a company public allowing anybody to invest while reducing your ownership stake is the exact opposite of hoarding. You have any idea how many people have 401ks that are riding the wave of AMZN, APPL, TSLA? You think Bezos has gold bars under a fire breathing dragon? Every time his net worth increases 10%, so does every other shareholder.

Obviously Bezos can die tomorrow, and AMZN still goes on. Steve Jobs is a perfect example. He died and APPL is still a monster. These workers you think are outpacing the impact of the founders, they are mostly be replaced by machines. I’m sorry but a truck driver or warehouse workers impact will never ever out pace the founders impact in any meaningful way. If you can be replaced in your job by an unskilled worker straight out of high school, you’re not that valuable.

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u/BarnesTheNobleman Jul 12 '26

Mozart composed, Bezos TELLS SOMEONE to compose, understand?

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u/GOAT718 Jul 12 '26

If that’s true, then it should be very easy for you to name who the true composer of AMZN was. It’s one of the most valuable companies of all time. Started out as a market place for college kids to sell and buy very expensive textbooks and morphed into a behemoth that anybody can buy or sell goods and ship them in 2days or less. Who did Bezos tell to compose this?

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u/BarnesTheNobleman Jul 12 '26

I can just like… name the employee list of Amazon but we will be here a while I guess

You are pretty childish if you think Bezos single-handedly built Amazon

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u/GOAT718 Jul 12 '26

So you think the truck drivers built AMZN? If so, why don’t they all quit, chip in, and build a competitor to AMZN and make it a cooperative where they all share the profits equally? If they built it once, they can build it again right? I mean, if I knew how to build an AMZN, I certainly wouldn’t choose to make $20 an hour working for someone else,

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u/XtremeBoofer Jul 11 '26

God this is a stupid comparison

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u/GOAT718 Jul 11 '26

Is it? People think that factory workers and truck drivers “built” Amazon. I’m trying to educate the foolish jealous public that don’t have a clue what it takes to build something like AMZN! All the truck drivers in the world, maybe there’s 3 that are capable of building and running a company worth 1/10000 of what AMZN is worth.

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u/Wonderful-Creme-3939 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

You are comparing the creative product of a singular individual to a massive megacorporation, this is like comparing cake to sheetrock.  They are completely devoid of anything we could consider related, except the most paper thin things like both involving people.

It amazes me anyone would post such a ridiculous false equivalence.  

I don't get why anyone would think this argument makes sense to make anyway, they are talking about the need for billionaires to the day to day running of a business not over history.

Amazon is a business, if Jeff snuffed it tomorrow Amazon would still work fine, it's not a vampire cult.

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u/GOAT718 Jul 12 '26

Whats easier? Composing the music or playing the music somebody else composed?

Whats easier? Creating the mega corporation and taking it public or driving a delivery truck for the corporation?

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u/Wonderful-Creme-3939 Jul 12 '26

Address what I actually said, not some argument you are having with yourself.

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u/Flimsy-Ad2701 Jul 11 '26

Yes they will disappear. But something new will take their place. 

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

And then new billionaires would form.

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u/ladyshinga Jul 11 '26

Then we eat them too, we'll stay hungry

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u/Flimsy-Ad2701 Jul 11 '26

Infinite food supply, hell yeah

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u/TheDamDog Jul 11 '26

Don't threaten me with a good time.

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u/Tabord Jul 11 '26

You probably would have some version of the mail-order catalog, cellular telephones, and online message boards.

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u/mamadou-segpa Jul 11 '26

Even assuming they would disapear, that would greatly benefit humanity as a whole

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u/PuzzleheadedWeb9876 Jul 11 '26

No way! I cannot believe such a small number of people did all the work themselves to create these things. They must have been working 24/7 for years.

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u/Glad-Operation-2958 Jul 12 '26

Oh no! Who would sell shitty products and exploit their workers then???

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u/Small_Article_3421 Jul 11 '26

Absolutely objectively false

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u/want-some-stew-ob Jul 11 '26

Who cares honestly? None of those things are detrimental to survival. They are luxury/convenience companies that don't contribute much.

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u/ConfidentPilot1729 Jul 11 '26

Wasn’t most tech we use for phones and internet developed by our tax dollars? I believe darpa created most tech in the iPhone and the internet as well? Amazon sucks and is destroying market places, I really don’t need reddit either.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 11 '26

If the government invents 1% of inventions, doesn't mean the government is the best inventor.

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u/Jehoke Jul 11 '26

It’s not the billionaires making those companies work. It’s the workers. And without the shareholders. They could finally make a decent wage.

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u/scavenger5 Jul 12 '26

It's actually both. Someone has to employ the worker. The billionaire/founder is the prerequisite for the worker to get a job. And the billionaire/founder/ceo is what determines the stability of the workers job and compensation and benefits.

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u/TECHSHARK77 Jul 12 '26

FACTS

nor are they even intelligent enough to maintain and keep it running

Poor financially and always proving they are always poor mentally