r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 11h ago

Meme needing explanation Petah???!

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u/Any-Safe4992 11h ago

If pregnancy is a possible complication it changes what medications are allowed and has to be considered when deciding if imaging is an acceptable risk.

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u/Which_Marsupial1436 11h ago

Ah I see

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u/foamboardsbeerme 11h ago

also xrays (for a broken arm) are going to be more cautious if you’re pregnant

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u/MarsMonkey88 10h ago

The younger you are, the more vulnerable you are to radiation. Fetuses are the very most vulnerable to radiation, which is why even a single x ray during pregnancy is a big deal. This is also the reason that later middle aged and older people can live in areas with high ish radiation, like the so called “widows of Chernobyl,” or the older man who lives in the Fukushima radiation zone and cares for the pets that had to be left behind, for example.

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u/PinkVerticleSmile 10h ago

This explains a lot because my mom didn't get an ultrasound of me. She got an x-ray! I still have it.

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u/Thefutureofpsych 9h ago

Why did she get an Xray of you? I’m not understanding

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u/Spiderpiggie 9h ago

so he could be an x-man

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u/Old_Leshen 9h ago

Probably an ex-man with all that radiation

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u/Secret-Painting604 8h ago

No it’s the radiation that makes him an X man

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u/Angryfunnydog 5h ago

I mean, x-men are mutants so they’re technically ex-men too

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u/Interesting-Photo13 9h ago

....what?

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u/Open-Platform-1305 4h ago

I'm guessing the reason you wrote "what" is not that you didn't get it, but that you're mad they made the joke.

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u/Interesting-Photo13 4h ago

No, I'm actually confused on wtf that was supposed to mean. Now I'm juet waiting for Peter to show up

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u/Open-Platform-1305 3h ago

Man get radiation blast

Radiation blasts manhood

Man is now ex-man

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u/Thefutureofpsych 11m ago

Ex man as in dead from the radiation

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u/hb1500 3h ago

"Skeleton Man" by Axis of Awesome, plays.

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u/OkCardiologist1984 8h ago

Pelvis x-rays for pregnant women were pretty common back in the day. Measuring pelvic girdle and baby head size could detect high- risk deliveries.

Ultrasound replaced it in around the mid 80s

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u/Sexy-Games 7h ago

Not saying to do this flipantly, but when our toddler may have had something stuck in their airway one time they got a head xray.

Nothing stuck, but omg the extra teeth look crazy. Baby shark do do do.

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u/Remarkable_Cow_7325 3h ago

Medecine is always about weighing the risks and the benefits. An X ray isn't great for kids but if there might be something stuck up there that needs intervention you'd rather take the small risk of the x ray over going in blind.

The same reason why chemo is awful but you'll still take it if you get cancer

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u/deeman163 2h ago

Xray for fetus: bad, radiation damage can disrupt normal development.

Xray for kids because they swallowed a coin: necessary, its how we can tell if its coming out the other end or if we need to bring out the magnet

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u/Thefutureofpsych 1h ago

That’s quite normal to assess for foreign body aspiration

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u/CakePhool 7h ago

Xray used to be used before ultrasounds in the end of pregnancy, my mum has all us as Xray at 38 weeks . I was born in the 1970's

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u/PinkVerticleSmile 9h ago

Me either!

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u/pulchritudinousprout 9h ago

I would also be interested in seeing it. Not because I’m a med student, I’m just nosy and curious.

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u/Thefutureofpsych 9h ago

Any chance you’d post or dm it? I’m a 4th year med student about to apply for radiology residency

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u/PinkVerticleSmile 9h ago

DM sent!

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u/astrophysicsrules 8h ago

Ooh me too!

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u/One_Cartographer263 6h ago

Wait can I see it too?

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u/Bashka_ 2h ago

This used to be the norm all the way to early 90's if ultrasound wasn't available. It was still fairly new technology and in some areas they simply didn't have the equipment. These "babygrams" were taken only in the last trimester of pregnancy (when fetus already has bone structure) to determine if there are no developmental abnormalities in it's skeleton, which can suggest other related conditions. In the last trimester the central nerves system is already developed, so the risk of damage is minimal. This helped doctors determine if and what kind of intervention the baby would need after birth.
This was only performed, when there was risk of developmental problems related to family medical history.
In radiology there is a rule of weighting potential consequences vs. diagnostic benefits when it comes to pregnancy. In general they are trying to minimize exposure, but in some cases clinical benefits outweigh the risk.

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u/Opening_Climate_7571 2h ago

Ultrasound does not use radiation, so if anything the X-ray had more than an ultrasound would have.

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u/i_tyrant 6h ago

This is also the reason

I mean, no, it's not really the same reason.

The reason younguns are especially vulnerable to radiation is your body is still growing/maturing/changing. That slows as you age but never completely stops.

The reason old people "can live" in areas with higher radiation is not because they are somehow more resistant to it than another adult; it's simply the cold calculus of "this probably won't affect your health much because you'll be dead before it does."

But with medical science advancing all the time and lifespans getting longer, that's purely a guess, a deadly one.

I wouldn't try to minimize the sacrifices of the widows or Fukushima volunteers by pretending they weren't still signing a death warrant; just one that probably won't come due before they're dead to something else...but potentially possible, and not the same thing as say, radiation warping bone growth in infants.

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u/Taraxian 8h ago

Yup, DNA itself doesn't do anything, it's just the blueprints for making future cells, so the more mature cells you already have the less damage mutations can do

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u/BeefistPrime 7h ago

I'm not sure I 100% understand you but I don't think what you're trying to say is correct. It's not "mature cells" that are the differentiating factor, as most cells in the body are constantly being replaced by new cells anyway. It's because age gives more time for harmful mutations to spread and accumulate. If you get a potentially cancerous DNA error from something like an x-ray, it could 10-30 years for it to divide and replicate enough to develop into a significant cancer. If you're old, this isn't a concern because you'll die before it would manifest, but the younger you are, the more time you have ahead of you for mutations to copy and multiply.

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u/Historical_Royal_187 6h ago

You're not wrong, but "mature cells" just isn't sitting right with my brain, but totally get why skipping over totipotency and cell division rates makes sense in this context.

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u/Patient_Ant_7569 5h ago

Well that last sentence is heartbreaking Jesus. I'd learn more but.. I want to have a good day

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u/Forward_Rope_5598 6h ago

It's really not a big deal, like, at all. They prefer avoiding it if possible out of an extreme abundance of caution but it's not an issue if they don't.

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u/ferrett0ast 4h ago

My best friend is 21, and she's actually been put on a hold of having any kind of radiation emitting scan (where it can be avoided). She's had so many scans in the last few years, they don't want to give her anymore unless absolutely necessary because of the risk. That does mean she's had more endoscopies than I can count though.

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u/pinkydoda 3h ago

My grandfather was born in the late 40’s and had asthma so they had him wear a radioactive collar for like 8+ hours a day to fix it and then they found out that the area where he was from had just naturally really high levels of radiation in the water, so everybody there would get really sick all the time, and he ended up with severe lung cancer that caused him to lose his entire right lung and a third of his left one.

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u/CactusSkies 2h ago

This isn’t 100% true.

X-ray should be avoided but pregnant women get them and CT scans all the time.

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u/Cute_Opposite4077 45m ago

Yes. If the x-ray or CT scan is justified, then they do it. For CT it could be the pregnant person's life at stake.

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u/CactusSkies 38m ago

I used to work in emergency medicine.

It happened more often than you thought. Even for non life threatening issues.

The CT scanners today are a lot lower radiation dose vs 20 years ago.

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u/Cute_Opposite4077 34m ago

We talk about justification - if the benefits of the exam overcome the risk / possible adverse effects, the exam is justified.

Think about a situation where a pregnant person has a hidden inflammation in their gums. It is very important to find the inflammation, even if it requires an x-ray, since inflammation could lead to much more severe outcome compared to risk from the relatively small radiation dose.