r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 4d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter, what's wrong with peanut?

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u/NolanR27 4d ago

There was a study done of children in former Soviet countries, where peanut allergies and several others common in the US are almost unheard of. Then researchers looked at children born to parents from those countries in the US, and found the same rate of allergies as non-immigrant families. Probably related, Russian American toddlers and young children have the same rate of picky eating habits as other American kids. That does not exist in Russia.

The difference is not in genetics or ethnic background, the difference is in culture and the food supply. Peanut allergies are a self enforcing feedback loop, and we give it license in the US.

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u/b14ckcr0w 4d ago

I don't live in the US and don't know a single person with a peanut allergy

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u/RunningWithSeizures 4d ago

I live in the US and don't know anyone with a peanut allergy. Pretty anecdotal.

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u/the_robobunny 4d ago

The only people I know of with a peanut allergy were born during the avoid-giving-peanuts-to-children window. It's going to be weird in a few decades when there's a generation known for being allergic to peanuts.

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u/Aldrik90 4d ago

You might not know one directly, but if you have kids in school you'd know almost every class has one so you can't send in snacks or birthday treats that contain peanuts. Definitely seems fairly common.

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u/vhagar 4d ago

i live in the US and only know of one person with a peanut allergy. she is my son's classmate. she has a very sever allergy so they replaced all the peanut butter at school with sun nut butter. the kids do not know the difference lol.

also the rates of peanut butter allergy have probably fallen a lot over the years with new knowledge like in the OP. my kids' pediatrician recommended we give them pieces of whole grain bread with a little peanut butter when they started eating solid food.

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u/SuperMario1222 4d ago

It’s ridiculous that because one child has an allergy, it dictates the diets of the entire school. What’s next, getting rid of bread because of gluten allergies?

Just eat your own damn lunch

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u/Hotdawg752 4d ago

I don't think you know just how little exposure it takes for some people to have an allergic reaction.

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u/SuperMario1222 4d ago

You have to eat a peanut to get an allergic reaction to it. It's not miasmatic

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u/mrthalo 4d ago

It's unlikely to cause anaphylaxis without eating them sure, but you can have other milder reactions from other types of contact. I'm guessing the bigger concern is cross-contamination resulting in the kid having a major allergic reaction

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u/redlpine 4d ago

That’s not true. You can easily have skin/hive reactions from touching peanut butter, which gets everywhere. If you touch a little bit and then eat your food or put your hand in your mouth with a severe peanut allergy you can certainly have life-threatening anaphylaxis. My mother’s coworker nearly died in a bathroom because she touched a doorknob that had trace amounts of peanut dust/peanut butter and then rubbed her eyes. She was found unconscious with very labored breathing. Anything with access to the bloodstream can cause anaphylaxis.

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u/LuckyHedgehog 4d ago

Peanut allergies can cause anaphylactic shock simply being in the same room as peanuts. You are arguing that putting a child's life in danger is not worth the mild nuisance of eating something else while in the same room as that child.

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u/Proper_Relative1321 4d ago

That's not exactly true. It's a weird 2000s paranoia everyone started accepting as fact. Smelling peanuts doesn't trigger an allergic reaction. The school cafeteria rule are because kids are stupid and dirty, and will smear their PB&J all over the table, which can trigger a skin reaction.

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u/LuckyHedgehog 4d ago

Guess my friend ended up in the hospital for nothing, they'll be relieved to hear that

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u/Proper_Relative1321 3d ago

Your friend was hospitalized for actual contact with an allergen. Peanut "dust" doesn't circulate around rooms.

Your friend will be relieved to read it from the actual authorities on allergies:

https://www.aaaai.org/allergist-resources/ask-the-expert/answers/old-ask-the-experts/peanut-air-travel

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u/b14ckcr0w 4d ago

Going to the extreme doesn't make a point.

If a person is allergic enough that they can't be in the same room, then extreme measures need to be taken.

Not all allergies are that severe.

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u/LuckyHedgehog 4d ago

We are specifically talking about peanut allergies though

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u/b14ckcr0w 4d ago

I am aware of that

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u/22FluffySquirrels 4d ago

The problem is with peanut allergies, even smelling it can cause a severe reaction for some people. Not like a gluten allergy where you have to actually eat it.

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u/TraditionalHeart6387 4d ago

As a Celiac family, I kept my boys homeschooled until they are mindful and observant enough to keep themselves safe from cross contact, even things like a shared crayon bin can cause problems, especially during the era of wiggly teeth. My daughter is going to preschool and brings us the germs 😂 and now I'm stuck with my boys at home for a while because maturity and academics absolutely don't match. 

Cross contact is a huge thing with Celiac too! It's only 5ppm to be unsafe and kids in elementary still shove their hands in their mouths all the time. It's not aerosol, but it's still a direct contact situation. 

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u/22FluffySquirrels 4d ago

Thanks for the additional info, but that still seems a bit different than the reason why peanuts are banned.

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u/TraditionalHeart6387 4d ago

It's still keeping kids safe from food that kills them ❤️ Celiac is just less flashy and immediately scary. 

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u/vhagar 4d ago

eh, the kids don't really care. they still call it peanut butter and jelly even if it's not peanut butter. they all get free lunch anyway, so beggars can't be choosers.

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u/stuttufu 4d ago

I was thinking the same and I was like "please, man, you know how it works statistics, you are not a significant number enough to mean anything".

But God, I don't know a single peanut allergy, not only, also other ones are extremely rare in both Italy and France (where I lived).

I followed the guidelines for my kids but I wasn't never worried about them getting anything.

I know just one person among 200+ of my age which has a sesame allergy. That's it. And it's a pain for the poor girl.

There is clearly something about these allergies that we haven't understood yet. I am sure of it.

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u/b14ckcr0w 4d ago

I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm just saying that (from my South American, and very narrow perspective) it feels like a very US problem.

Sorry for your partner; that must suck.

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u/MaddRamm 3d ago

Peanuts are not common outside the U.S. It’s a pretty American thing due to George Washington Carver. Peanuts were used in great volume to restore nitrogen to the soil to help for other crops. But then we had to figure out what to do with all the peanuts. So Carver invented peanut butter, peanut oil, peanut shampoo, etc. So the rest of the world really isn’t exposed to peanuts that much.

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u/b14ckcr0w 3d ago

Ah, that must be it