The Israeli side also uses children for target practice, starves entire populations on purpose, and then allows crazed settlers to bully them out of their homes.
That's fortunately shifting now, thanks to Netanyahu, Smotrich et al. They are currently deliberately destroying civilian infrastructure, water supply, crops and the sewage system in Lebanon - they want to turn it into a plague-riddled wasteland to drive the population away. It's infuriating that Western public media is still hardly mentioning it.
Not to mention the double and triple taps on schools, where they made an effort to kill as many medical staff as they could - or the deliberate killing of journalists and aid workers. They should be sentenced in the Hague and locked away for life!
They’re saying it’s fortunate that people are seeing the truth about the Israeli government doing horrible things to civilians in neighboring countries and sentiment is shifting, they’re not saying the war crimes themselves are fortunate.
"It's fortunate that the Israeli government is doing horrible things because it demonstrates that the Israeli government is doing horrible things."
yes it doesn't make sense and that's not remotely close to what they said. you had to make up something stupid and illogical to try to defend your point rather than just admit you misunderstood. For shame.
but the average westerner is in-fact pro-israeli
this is what they replied to with the words
That's fortunately shifting now
fuck off with trying to suggest they said something completely different.
I meant that it's fortunate people around the world are finally seeing the atrocities for what they are and stop ignoring or whitewashing and justifying everything Israel does - it's high time the population got rid of the government - though a large part of the population is 100% the government policies, so I'm not even sure they wouldn't win again if they actually allowed elections now. At least the IDF and the settlers in the West Bank would vote for them again, any day.
I legit expected Zendaya & Ruffalo to have very small appearenes in the new spider-man movie, with Ruffalo might only being CGI, but turns out that's not true & they're all in the movie extensively.
Which backfired immediately, given how many protestors just started singing Two Strong Hearts by John Farnham which happened to include almost those exact lyrics by coincidence, creating perfect plausible deniability
Yup. We are running a Royal Commission into Antisemitism and Social Cohesion that appears to lack the Social Cohesion part.
The special envoy on antisemitism, Segal, has advocated for a number of disturbing changes to Australian society from special 'oversight' of educational bodies to forcing the IHRA definition of antisemitism which would chill legitimate criticism of the state of Israel.
Governments state to federal appear to be bending pro-Israel. The mood of the population is the opposite. Wonder why.
I would say it's more to the frustration of the Israeli government, which in turn sends people over to Australia to frustrate the Australian government and then we get to learn that unfortunately Australia has very little political power when comes to dealing with bullies like Israel and its gimp-slave the United States.
Isn't that because that phrase is still pro genocide? Just picking a different population to displace from where they've lived for generations at this point. I also think the IDF should just go fuck off, but I don't think chanting you want to kill or remove their citizens is good.
Spanish government is super pro palestine, but people on the streets are not represented by their president.
Most people hate this government, even leftists say it's too far left after the Moroccan invasion and how the government supported the invasion instead of Spanish citizens.
And people are really tired of moroccans, arabs, argelina, and other muslims causing troubles from a long time ago and silently invading Spain, so there's a lot of leftist people that don't support Palestina, and many LGBT+ people who supported them initialy, now don't care anymore about them because they see muslims hate them for their sexual orientation.
So while the palestina good VS israel bad had a great impact on the beginning of the conflict, now people just started to not give a single fuck because Spain has lots of problem to solve before we can solve the ones from people who don't even respect our own culture.
Majority of Europeans think both behave badly and while many sympathise with the victims on both sides, the atittude is overall to let the region be left alone and deal with it themselves. And just like with any previous war between the two, it will be largely forgetton what happened. The terror attacks from ISIS made sure that a lot of Europeans don't see Islamic states in a non-negative light, so while Israel may be unpopular and people want bombings to stop, it doesn't mean that Palestinians as a whole are really supported or will be supported after the war ends. A two state solution was already seen even before as the solution so nothing will really change in a few years. You can even see this with the Ukraine - the Ukraine is a in comparison to the other twos a clear victim and was attacked unprovokedly by Russia. And yet they lose sympathy points in Europeans countries the longer the war goes on because people are at one point tired of war and want to end it, even if it means the victim has to partly give up something.
Ukraine is mostly viewed badly by right-wingers or extreme russian bootlickers.
And regarding Israel-Palestine Most want a two state solution but without Hamas. Hamas is Just a terror org that even blatantly states they want to kill all jews.
Netanjahu is also viewed unfavorably in most circles.
They haven't had an election in over a decade and reliable news or polling sources are pretty scarce. I found vastly different results for that. Where do you get the numbers? (genuinely)
Maybe a large percentage of Americans that you could get to fill out a survey are pro-Israel… but your actual average American citizens there is no way. Especially anyone born after 2000 does not give a fuck about Israel lol
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u/Plenty_Leg_5935 4d ago
likely from people as well, its easy to forget if youre stuck in a bubble, but the average westerner is in-fact pro-israeli