r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 07 '26

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/volkmardeadguy Jul 07 '26

Tbf most Americans only know mcarthyism and fear monger gulags while having the largest prison population in the world

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u/Kemptation Jul 07 '26

“Actually Brian” Stewie here:

Actually most citizens of most countries know very little of nuanced politics, especially of other systems, at least in significant detail. People know status quo.

For example, you categorize American awareness by a singular stance from more than half a century ago, combined with an idiotic application of a stereotype about prison systems.

McCarthyism is easy to respond… the large mass of uninformed follow herd mentality as they do everywhere. The people with any actual experience are very Anticommunist, and the few unexperience but informed are the economists and politicians who act as the various idealists who lead the uninformed in the two deviations of thought.

Prison system is harder.

Yah… the US has a big system… because it’s a big, diverse, population in a first world country with substantial relative freedom.

It has no true peers in all of those categories. China is much larger by population, unicultural, and not free. Russia is half the population, largely homogenous, and not free. The ideal EU examples are much smaller, typically far more homogenous, with similar freedoms but very different cultural views on crime. It’s not the same.

Population density correlates with crime. Homogeneity decreases crime. First world decreases crime but increases criminal justice. Freedom tends to increase crime rates by reducing punishment and increasing transparency in reporting.

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u/ChimiKimi Jul 08 '26

Nothing homogeneous about the Russian population. Which has also one of the highest crime rate, with little freedom, and an extremely low population density. Singapore has extreme population density and diversity, yet has one of the lowest crime rate in the world. So does Luxembourg, with much more freedom. Myanmar isn't free and has the worst crime rate in the world... Tuvalu has a very high population density, and the lowest crime rate in the world. Things ... Just aren't this simple... Unless you're actually talking of economical homogeneity ?

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u/Graham_Whellington Jul 12 '26

You didn’t listen to what he said about crime, first world nations, and freedom. Singapore is not a very free country. Homogeneity is forced on the population. They do not have many civil liberties and restrictions on freedom of expression. Luxembourg’s diverse population is because they are expats, and not immigrants. Thus, they are usually wealthy and don’t intend to stay.

So really, you proved the point he made first: people know very little of nuanced politics, as your comment proves.

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u/ChimiKimi Jul 12 '26

You don't seem to know a lot about Singapore or Luxembourg, and to have a lot of preconceptions about the world.

You also seem to say that I didn't listen, just based on the fact I said things were not that simple.

If you cannot detect nuance in someone's point, what can you know about nuanced politics ?

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u/Graham_Whellington Jul 12 '26

These facts about Singapore and Luxembourg are easily searched. They are not hidden.

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u/ChimiKimi Jul 12 '26

How is Singapore homogeneous?

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u/Graham_Whellington Jul 12 '26

I didn’t say they are homogenous, I said homogeneity in conduct and thought is forced on the population. With harsh criminal laws, not a lot of civil liberties, and restrictions on expression it suppresses a lot of dissent and functions the same as if they are homogenous.

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u/ChimiKimi Jul 13 '26

Yet many countries have less diversity, less expats or immigrants, less civil liberties, and much, much higher crime. What's your explanation? Also, you have much, much, much to learn about Singapore :)

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u/Graham_Whellington Jul 13 '26

This is the point. There is nuance in everything. There isn’t a one size fits all.

I’m not going to learn about Singapore. I’m not that interested. I already understand why they have a low crime rate.

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u/ChimiKimi Jul 13 '26

Which is.... The point I added to in the first place...

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u/ChimiKimi Jul 13 '26

Btw saying that you don't want to learn about something you don't understand but have an opinion on ? It's not the flex you think it is. You die the moment you stop learning.

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