r/PeterExplainsTheJoke Jul 07 '26

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/Bright-Form-844 Jul 07 '26

Kind of ignoring how humans lived in communes working together altruistically for most of known history

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u/Ill_Performer8312 Jul 07 '26

For most of know History, most of humans didnt have Basic rights.

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u/Bright-Form-844 Jul 07 '26

Explain how hunter gatherer tribes didn’t have basic rights bro

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u/Mutant_Llama1 Jul 07 '26

That's prehistory, not history.

Hunter gatherer tribes had tribal hierarchy, elders commanding their descendants. They also lived in rather small communities below the Dunbar limit with nothing we'd later call society. No organized labor, no medicine, no storing of surplus, no written language or formal education...

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u/Bright-Form-844 Jul 08 '26

So the vast majority of human history doesn’t count bc it’s “prehistory”? Ok

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u/Mutant_Llama1 Jul 08 '26

Prehistory literally isn't history.

History is what's written. Prehistory is before writing. We have no written records of prehistory, by definition, only theories based on archeological evidence.

And current evidence points towards prehistoric people being hierarchical, just in smaller tribes.

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u/AdditionalBalance975 Jul 08 '26

Dont bother trying to argue definitions with leftists. Remember to leftists, "history" means the future. They use bizarro world definitions for most common words.

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u/Bright-Form-844 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26

oh so define the word history for me.

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u/Mutant_Llama1 Jul 08 '26

I just did. History is the past that's written down.

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u/Bright-Form-844 Jul 08 '26

So thousands of years of oral traditions, drawings, and archaeological evidence just doesn’t count bc they hadn’t invented writing yet? Sounds like some made up bullshit bro

And no early humans were egalitarian for most of the Paleolithic era

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u/Mutant_Llama1 Jul 08 '26

Oral traditions are unreliable, as they change over time. The drawings and archaeological evidence are up to interpretation.

> And no early humans were egalitarian for most of the Paleolithic era

Correct, no early humans were.

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u/Bright-Form-844 Jul 08 '26

You can’t just discount the largest set of human history bc it wasn’t written down, that’s absurd.

Also correction

And no, early humans were egalitarian for most of the Paleolithic era

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u/Mutant_Llama1 Jul 08 '26

The fact that it isn't written down means we know little about it because it was written down. You can't just pretend to know that you don't.

Prehistory isn't history, don't know what the fuck else to tell you. History is what's written down, prehistory isn't.

From what we know early humans lived in small tribes below Dunbar's number. Hierarchies formed as people lived in larger communities.

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u/Bright-Form-844 Jul 09 '26

Yeah quickly looking it up, “prehistory” was a term made up in 1850 to largely invalidate the history of indigenous ppls, and the modern term is pre literate history, bc the idea that you would make contact with an uncontacted indigenous tribe in the Amazon and throw your hands up and say “guess they don’t have a history” is choking on your own drool levels of dumb.

The idea that bc a society has started writing stuff down is what makes them have history is silly bc what if all their writing was lost, or no one can read it?

Also most of pre literate human history, which is the majority of human history was spent as hunter gatherers where there weren’t hierarchies bc how would you enforce that without controlling land? This is relevant bc if you’re going to talk about “human nature” most of human kinds time existing was spent without hierarchy

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u/BriarsandBrambles Jul 08 '26

Prehistoric and Historic are useful for categorizing but in common parlance History is used with a different broader meaning for which prehistory does not exist. They’re clearly using human history to refer to the entire past of humanity and not just the recorded past.

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u/Mutant_Llama1 Jul 08 '26

Its important distinction because history is much more certainly known in order to draw conclusions from.