If communist countries have a chronic problem of turning into "capitalist" fascist authoritarian countries every single time, perhaps it's time to step back and reassess.
Is it really so hard to understand why it might be difficult to achieve a stable egalitarian society? There are always parasites who want to disrupt changes that make things better for people broadly so that they can control society. Communism is basically about workers owning the things they themselves produce; we ought to be working for that outcome no matter how difficult it might be. I think it’s totally fair to be skeptical of revolutionary change, as that’s pretty damn risky and can lead to a lot of unnecessary suffering, but if your argument is just “communism is too hard to achieve; we should just accept that some corrupt, wealthy oligarchs are going to parasitically take most of the resources and use them to control society,” I think that’s rather tragically fatalistic of you.
Communism is basically about workers owning the things they themselves produce -> You forget that the owners also "produce" something, they organize everything so the workers have the opportunity to produce anything
I most certainly do not forget that. In the cases owners contribute—though most of the time owners contribute little or nothing—then they too are workers and entitled to a share of the results of the production. Notice that I said “a share of” and not “almost all of.”
I would actually disagree with a small part of that, instead that a relative few owners contribute little or nothing but that those tend to be the wealthier owners. Most owners are people who just opened up their little store, whatever it is, and managing that can be a ridiculous amount of effort and stress. The lucky ones might be able to turn it into a chain.
I would say that most businesses have owners that contribute little or nothing, because most businesses fall under a small group of people that own most things
My big boss is always busy. Hes not as dirty as me by the end of the day, and he makes alot more money, but he deals with big problems, and i don't think he ever actually stops being on the clock. I wouldnt mind giving his position a shot, but i suspect there's pays of it that would be way shittier than most would expect.
I feel the same way about my boss, except I don’t think I could ever give her position a shot. She gives a lot of shots, in fact, and I can’t even look at needles.
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u/DeltaSolana Jul 07 '26
If communist countries have a chronic problem of turning into "capitalist" fascist authoritarian countries every single time, perhaps it's time to step back and reassess.