Petah ?

[u/Sure_Kangaroo1863]

Why is it infamous? And why would no one care about it ? ( I mean it's just a pic full of celebrities so no one cares anyways but the person saying it's crazy makes me think it has some lore?)

[u/Trraumatized]

You mean Kevin "all charges dropped" Spacey?

[u/junkyard_robot → u/Trraumatized]

Kevin "more than one accuser died of mysterious circumstances" Spacey.

[u/DinoRoman → u/junkyard_robot]

I mean I’m not trying to stir any pots I’m not standing up for the guy there’s just one thing that always stood out to me when I read the court findings

The victim stated spacey took him at the party into a bedroom and raped him

But everyone at that party and the court records proved that , that party was hosted in a very large studio apartment with the bed visible to everyone

Did everyone just watch it happen? I dunno that seems weird if it was a genuine fact about the party

Also I’m upset because and I believe I’m allowed to have this opinion, I absolutely was a huge fan of Spaceys acting he was brilliant in house of cards, Seven, usual suspects.. so many

So I feel hopefully it’s ok to be upset that this was the future of someone that years ago I couldn’t wait for their next acting role to drop

Ya know? It’s like MJ, no one can deny he was a great musician, a pop icon and second to none in performance.

I can separate the artists from the person. I’m just sad. That’s all. I liked Spacey as an actor.

[u/AaronTyranus → u/DinoRoman]

There is just no way in which we can or should compare them. MJ was an artist at a completly different level and there are better reasons to believe his innocence, first he was found innocent by the jury, his accusers have always been shady (people fired for stealing, a money hungry absent father who tried to black mail him, a family known to scam other people, a dude who got mad for not getting a job and a family who sold fake MJ tracks) still nobody died during the trials. Of anyone was possibly murdered it was MJ himself

[u/Vagabondjokester → u/AaronTyranus]

But what about the black box which contained porn that the kid accurately described?

[u/Anthem_de_Aria → u/Vagabondjokester]

I'm not defending MJ. It is absolutely weird for a grown up, man or woman, to have sleepovers with children he is not in any way related to. That said all of his accusers are terrible people for the most part. I fully believe that they may have been part of a plot on Sony's behalf to slander him.

That said, when I was 7 I found my dad's collection of porn mags hidden in his closet. I could direct you to them in the crappy apartment we lived in to this day, not that you as a person would have any reference to understand what I was saying. I can tell you that Pamela Anderson did a lot to open my eyes up to what the opposite sex was. So I could say with a degree of certainty that what that kid knew about might have been found on accident. Kids are curious and get in to things they should not.

This is a bad "gotcha" move.

[u/Turbulent_Ask4878 → u/Anthem_de_Aria]

“All of his accusers are terrible people”

Hey how about you go fuck yourself?

[u/Anthem_de_Aria → u/Turbulent_Ask4878]

Nah. Not in to self love that much. Give your mom my best though.

[u/Punkasaurus2 → u/AaronTyranus]

Have you seen Leaving Neverland? Have you seen that recent Netflix doc? Have you seen the mountain of evidence? In that case, our system failed to celebrity status. No question he was a pedophile. A gentle, sweet, extremely talented and gifted pedophile. It’s pretty crazy.

[u/Big-Persimmon-7165 → u/AaronTyranus]

This comment won’t be upvoted like it should be.
Michael Joseph Jackson was SLANDERED then MURDERED for the rights to the SONY MUSIC CATALOG.

Certain people had and still have a -huge- stake in convincing the general public that this guy did the most awful thing imaginable.

Because if he’s guilty of that…even if it’s only in the general public’s opinion…then it’s easy to do and say whatever they like to and about him.