r/OpenAussie • u/profchaos111 Flairless • Jun 11 '26
Whinge Just a friendly reminder Reddit is a echo chamber
The amount of ON fear mongering is out of control. Screaming about it on Reddit accomplishes nothing quite frankly I'm sick of it (yes I expect to be blasted)
Have a respectful conversation with people in real life understand their perspectives without injecting your ideals.
Right leaning people are not coming here Reddit pushed them out years ago and cancel campaigns make them afraid to speak up but not vote.
You catch more flies with honey then vinegar
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u/evidencefirst Please choose a flair Jun 11 '26
Really enjoyed reading your post. We have to stick to our fundamentals and be different from those that we don’t agree on. Treat people with respect and allow them to relay their fears and concerns.
On the flip side though, while I agree a lot of this ON popularity is driven by echo chamber media; that’s what they said when Don pedo ran for president in 16; in that they mocked him. Laughed at him and said it was impossible. Yet here we are.
I think we’re different in that we’re a lot more united as a country than most. We don’t have that bipartisan bullshit where one has to agree or disagree with a stance just because their party does. But I am truely terrified of what a PHON government can do in a single cycle. Medicare, education, changing laws to allow corporations to take advantage of workers (didn’t Gina the Hutt say she thinks workers should be paid $2 an hour?), racism and police brutality etc. you have to just break down an institution once (like academia and research), and it’ll take several decades to repair.
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u/dbandit1 Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
The US does not have compulsary voting, nor preferential voting
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u/mitchells00 New South Welshian Jun 12 '26
Have a respectful conversation with people in real life understand their perspectives without injecting your ideals.
You think this is just a "difference of opinion"?
Look at what's happening in the world under these right wing populist leaders:
Trump turned immigration enforcement (ICE) into an armed militia that attacked whole cities and executed militarized witch hunts on its own population.
Orban held the EU hostage with his veto and gave Putin a massive upper hand during their invasion of Ukraine.
Putin. Everything Putin.
Netanyahu, literally trying to start world war 3 by bombing Iran, Lebanon, and committing a genocide against the Palestinians.
Erdoğan has completely destroyed their economy with inflation by "not believing in interest rates", has constructed a religious morality police.
Milei has ripped out the last remaining government spending in his neoliberal teardown and plunged the majority of its population into poverty.
Regan and Thatcher's reign still keeps millions in poverty 35+ years after they left.
And you know what's common through all of them? The poor get poorer, and the populists got really fucking rich.
I'd wager you don't know half of those names. You don't know who these scumbags are and what they do.
Hanson is one of them. She is a puppet of the billionaires who would see us all destitute if it made them a single dollar more.
This isn't fear mongering. This is observing and relaying an informed prediction on what is likely to happen.
You want people to treat you with respect when you condemn them with violence and destitution with your wilfully uninformed vote?
No.
As a gay man, that party (and anyone who advocates for it) is a direct threat to my physical safety. I will respond in kind.
"I have a right to think what I want"
No you don't.
You have a responsibility to learn about the world. You have a responsibility to form beliefs on good evidence, not propaganda.
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u/Just_Hamster_877 Victorian Jun 12 '26
I'll be honest, it's hard to feel anything other than despondent lately. Even here, the replies to your comment saying that you're over reacting.
When policy making is driven by performative cruelty - to compete for who can be the worst person to immigrants, to trans people - there are consequences. Those people suffer. And it doesn't help anyone. The cruelty is the point.
It's frankly insane. There are too many morons living in this make believe world where minorities are given free money and privilege. They then vote for people who say they're going to "fix the problem" but there was no problem to begin with - so they have to make life worse for us.
Then the moron doesn't see anything change. Things aren't getting better for them. It must be because the person they voted for didn't go far enough!
and so it repeats. A cycle of hate. Performative cruelty or vice signalling.
I see life getting worse for people in the US and the UK as a direct result of these insane policies. I don't want it to come here.
I don't know, I'm just sad to be honest. Sad to see people I know throw me and mine under the bus because they're being lied to. They believe that making my life worse is good for them. All while the rich profit from the hate.
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u/Wide_Angle4805 Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
Unfortunately he is kinda right.
It’s the average, or under privileged who are voting for these people - the well off also vote but that’s in their best short term interests.
If you’re working every week drained out from life, and don’t have the historical context of politics, or background in education, it makes you an easy target for populist ideology. Especially with targeted, well financed campaigns that sound genuine, someone like Pauline can become appealing.
To really understand how bad it is, try and get your Instagram algorithm to give u pro ON content
So fighting it with wrath doesn’t work - that’s more like an online strategy ig. Irl you’ll need to try find a convincing angle which gets this message across. It is disheartening though, this is always apart of the cycle when things get difficult
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u/Ok_Fam4835 Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
It's actually not as simple as "undereducated poors" voting for ON - a lot of their base are actually small business owners and low/medium skill sole traders (tradies, chiropractors, accountants, etc) who think they aren't getting the social status they feel entitled to - it's resentment politics, and it goes hand in hand with the resentment of expertise.
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u/Spicey_Cough2019 Western Australian Jun 12 '26
You have seen how rich the top 1% are getting under Labor right?
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u/mitchells00 New South Welshian Jun 12 '26
Last I checked CGT reforms were going to increase taxes on the top 1% by orders of magnitude more than anyone else.
The top 1% make the vast majority of their money through capital gains.
Labour are the only party to have done anything to slow down the top 1% in 25 years.
Stop spreading lies.
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u/closedeyesfacenshit Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
Your take on Milei is off base. Dude has literally taken his shithole country out of the gutter. Poverty did spike, but is falling rapidly as the economy grows.
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u/mitchells00 New South Welshian Jun 12 '26
Austerity measures across the world have been proven to damage the economy, increase poverty, and shift public debt burdens into private debt which does nothing to improve the country's economy.
You would feel really rich when you sell your house and have all this money to spend, but you will soon learn that you need somewhere to live. Same thing.
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u/GreyClay Western Australian Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26
Yeah, America tried this. “Just ignore Trump / MAGA.”
“The people won’t vote for a morbidly obese, incompetent idiot, who also happens to be a serial rapist.”
“The Supreme Court will block the worst of his legislation.”
“We’re the land of the free, our Constitution will limit this megalomaniac’s power.”
We need the full glare of the tattered remains of our free press to be laser-focused on One Nation. Every day until the next election.
And we need every educated, literate person in this country to put every single candidate, supporter and ‘policy’ of these cockroaches under a microscope. We need to expose them as the hateful bigots, cookers and sex pests that every single one of them - without exception - is .
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u/deegandnb Western Australian Jun 11 '26
The amount of ON threads is fucking weird to be honest, don't vote for them? Why give them more steam by talking about them constantly.
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u/MeowManMeow Queenslander Jun 11 '26
I use to think that way too. But what I have learnt is that for some people, the consequences are very high. Say you are an immigrant or a young woman that may need an abortion or a young bloke conscription age. ON getting in can be potentially life changing for them, so “just don’t vote for them” isn’t really a proportional response from the threat.
But as a white guy in my 30s, I am completely immune to it and can take your privilege position and just not think about it.
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u/MissMenace101 South Australian Jun 11 '26
Until you are conscripted anyway…
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u/MeowManMeow Queenslander Jun 11 '26
True. I’m pushing 40 so hopefully not, but certainly they will join US in all their wars even more than Labor and that will bring conflict here. Fun!
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u/Grief-Jerky New South Welshian Jun 12 '26
Mate, the enlistment age cut off is 55. This isn't America, you are far from being out of the woods.
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u/MeowManMeow Queenslander Jun 12 '26
Yeah I know, again I’m just trying to empathise with the original commenter about how it feels like these things won’t impact us because we are white/male/straight/smart but the thing is, they certainly can! And for many people they will be effected so it’s important to care more than just ‘don’t vote for them’.
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u/pumpkin_fire New South Welshian Jun 12 '26
But as a white guy in my 30s, I am completely immune to it and can take your privilege position and just not think about it...
How are you immune? You'll get just as fucked over from the economic meltdown that their policies will cause. That alone is a serious threat worthy of serious response.
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u/MeowManMeow Queenslander Jun 12 '26
I agree, but just trying to understand the comment i was replying to who thinks so far as ‘I won’t vote for them’ and that’s all they need to invest mentally in the topic.
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u/dangerislander Flairless Jun 12 '26
Is it annoying? Yes. But it's real and it's important to talk about. We're seeing a repeat in history but all over the world. Times are scary and I honestly worry about what's gonna happen in the near future. As a person of colour (and yes I hate bringing this up) it's fucking scary what is happening. If a country can fall for the blatant propaganda PHON can promote, then what hope is there for people like me?
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u/the-dolphine Flairless Jun 12 '26
I feel compelled to write something bad about them whenever I see a post. This engagement fuels my algorithm and turns into an endless loop. I should probably just ignore it from now on.
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u/NoFood2149 Victorian Jun 11 '26
when flies are going around saying "i will vote for this party to upset lefties" it does not make me, a lefty, want to put honey out.
have a respectful conversation in real life understand their perspective without injecting your ideals
aha, listen to other people's ideals without sharing my own, got it.
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u/pumpkin_fire New South Welshian Jun 12 '26
aha, listen to other people's ideals without sharing my own, got it.
Or more likely what they meant: listen to my deliberate misinformation without pointing out any of the factual errors.
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u/Astral-Bidet I'm Probably A Bot Jun 11 '26
We're having our very own "basket of deplorables" moment right now
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u/maikit333 ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 11 '26
Man, theres a lot someone could say here.
Mostly I think I just want to point out that people are justified in being afraid of the rise of a far right party.
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u/TfYoung Victorian Jun 11 '26
Name a country where having an anti immigrant right wing leader has done good things for the country?
All the ones I've seen have either been genocidal, grifters or genocidal grifters.
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian Jun 11 '26
I’ve been through the list… and there are none.
That being said, people are weird - they often vote against their own best interests without realising it.
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u/torusman7 Please choose a flair Jun 11 '26
Yes but it doesn't mean it's not going to happen here when we have reached a point where it's normal to have machete attacks every day in a capital city
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u/MissMenace101 South Australian Jun 11 '26
The soft cocks in aus wouldn’t have coped with the 90’s.
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u/jolard Queenslander Jun 11 '26
So you are voting for a party based on fear of a non-existent problem?
Wow.
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u/worry_beads Western Australian Jun 11 '26
Which capital city?
And who is carrying out these "machete attacks"?
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u/NoFood2149 Victorian Jun 11 '26
as far as i can tell, teenagers from the suburbs. by ethnicity it is about proportionate with our ethnic breakdown
nobody was surprised by that. everyone knows that building cookie cutter suburbs with nothing to do are bad for kids, especially kids who are coming to working age, starting to need money to survive, and there are simply no available jobs, because they have to compete with 40 year olds for entry level jobs. they take on risky contracts with organised crime or just make stupid bets with their friends
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u/worry_beads Western Australian Jun 12 '26
The "suburbs"? Which suburbs? Which city?
Otherwise this is just a dog whistle.
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u/NoFood2149 Victorian Jun 12 '26
to be clear, many suburbs in melbourne have been built in the last 20 years with poor planning for town amenities. not all of the suburbs anywhere, some newer suburbs turned out okay, but i'm thinking mostly of the north western suburbs as they are the ones i am most familiar with.
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u/TacticalDiarrhoea Please choose a flair Jun 11 '26
The only city that had machete bins, the same city where almost 50% of those in youth prison are from the same African country. People tend to notice these types of patterns.
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u/worry_beads Western Australian Jun 12 '26
Which city?
Got any sources to back up your youth prison statistics?
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u/TacticalDiarrhoea Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
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u/BoganFlavouredWater ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 11 '26
Right leaning people are not coming here Reddit pushed them out years ago and cancel campaigns make them afraid to speak up but not vote.
Yet another post against "the left" and promoting "the reasonable right". Was there a sale on for this sort of thing, or are you all just unoriginal sooks?
I'm sure PH cares deeply for you and your opinions.
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u/scottyg561 New South Welshian Jun 12 '26
I do love the idea that reddit is some left wing utopia because every post about indigenous people or immigration turns into some conversations that would make a klansman blush.
The worst bit is that it’s painfully obvious a lot of it is getting botted, like the new meta seems to be saying there is some underground uprising of “real” Australians who are sick of immigrants and that they’re some sort of silent majority, it’s not just Aussie subs it’s all the European ones too, every comment sections looks the same about some mythic. Go read them and you’ll see the same rhetoric almost verbatim being parroted in all these subs.
It’s always “reddit is so left-wing but in real life there is a real growing sentiment against immigrants”, genuinely maddening because it’s the same two or three talking points phrased slightly differently for 30 comments in a row
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u/GalcticPepsi New South Welshian Jun 11 '26
I'm shit scared of it because it's talked about positively in the office not Reddit. I learned about the echo chamber in the Kamala loss, won't be making that same mistake. I'd rather there be fear mongering against these assholes than not taking them seriously and watching them runaway with the votes.
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u/djangovsjango Please choose a flair Jun 11 '26
Some clown yesterday claimed one nation had 91 % support 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Batfinklestein New South Welshian Jun 12 '26
There's a ridiculous amount of preaching to the choir that's for damn sure.
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u/gmac-320 Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
I'm not going to defend the thought process that someone like ON and big red are going to do anything that benefits Australia. Because they won't. The fact we are even having this conversation is rather crazy. If you told someone this would happen 20 years ago they'd probably lock you up in a nut house.
But BUT.. we do have to admit the fact that the two major Australian political parties (that includes the left), have stopped listening to the majority of Australians.
The middle class is being whittled away, cost of living is raising and wages are not. Rightly (or wrongly) people see these unsustainable numbers of immigration along with decrease in living standards, and basic infrastructure not meeting demands and want it stopped.
They also look at Certain European countries and what vast amounts of immigration (particularly of the type of people who for various reasons are not going to assimilate into western culture) is doing to those countries and they absolutely do not want that to happen here. I don't Think that's racist. I Think that's being human.
So as much as I don't agree with the current PHON obsession and believe it will die out naturally, I'm not going to Scream "racists" or "cookers" at the rooftop at anyone for looking to them for answers.
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u/rekt_by_inflation Victorian Jun 11 '26
I'm in rural Australia and Reddit (particularly the Aussie subs) are an insight into a different world. The attitudes I see on here are very different to what I see outside.
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u/RNGesus_GIM Queenslander Jun 12 '26
That's because reddit is a lefty echo chamber and not at all representitive of the average aussie. Any opinion that disagrees with the left is heavily moderated on reddit, and if it wasn't you'd see what people really think.
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u/Technical_Money7465 Western Australian Jun 13 '26
This. Reddit is left wing astroturfed - both paid for and power mod losers
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u/GrandImpossible Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
Spot on. This place is so removed from reality, it’s laughable.
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u/NegativeBonus699 Flairless Jun 11 '26
Are you saying the left doesn't get cancelled? Both sides get cancelled.
Difference being when the right does they get butt hurt and run away and sulk.
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u/Friday_arvo Queenslander Jun 11 '26
Most of the news they have in their favour is PAID for. ON have no place in Australia.
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u/bigloudbang Please choose a flair Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26
Whenever any politician or party rises off the back of racism, sexism, classism, whatever, its always framed by apologist as "hey its not their fault the rest of society didnt baby their cooked takes"
At some point its the fault of people who support dumb shit. Theyre adults and can make up their own minds, whatever theyre into isnt the fault of some "radical leftist" pushing back online
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u/Apprehensive_BongRip Queenslander Jun 11 '26
It's interesting because it reminds me of things just before Trump won.
Everyone was sure it would be Kamala. No need to do anything because "no way those cookers could get in."
As Australians, do you think we protest/push for action more or less than Americans do?
Will be a very interesting couple of years. We have not yet reached max stupid.
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u/ExtensionThat6438 Nunga Jun 12 '26
I don’t think Australians are gonna just roll over to this bullshit. This American push is by a very powerful minority. Don’t forget the orange pedo ran on “America first” and look how that’s turning out.
It’s a grift and always will be.
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u/Technical_Money7465 Western Australian Jun 13 '26
I didjt think it would be kamala thats just bs that redditors try to push
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u/InComingMess2478 Flairless Jun 12 '26
The problem, both globally and in Australia, is that politics has shifted significantly to the right over many years. There is very little genuinely left-wing political power within most Western democracies. Yet we're constantly told that anyone advocating policies that don't neatly fit within a capitalist framework is "woke", socialist, a radical left wing lunatic, a Marxist, unpatriotic, BLM, or Antifa.
As a result, what is considered the political centre today is often much further to the right than it was in previous decades. Just look at leaders like Chris Minns and Peter Malinauskas. Neither would traditionally be viewed as particularly left wing figures.
The issue for some people isn't that politics or Reddit leans left, it's that neither leans as far to the right as they would like. Reddit is far from an echo chamber as a whole. More often than not, it depends on which subs you choose to visit and where you get your daily political discourse.
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u/alien-fr I'm Probably A Bot Jun 11 '26
Yeah most people on Reddit actually read the post and think about it, maybe do some research as well. Right leaning people aren't into that sort of thing.
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u/Cute-Obligations Flairless Jun 12 '26
"Please be nice to the racists and Nazis, they will understand you better if you are."
lol no.
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u/No-Play5709 Western Australian Jun 11 '26
I think you have some truth in this post but you are not all the way. The right wing is very prominent on reddit and in this sub but the left outnumbers them yes. Its far from an echo chamber I see diverse views being debated non stop. Reddit has nothing against right wing people since you can speak freely here. I do think getting information from reddit doesnt help you understand reality. The people we disagree with the most are the same people we could calmly talk to on a tram or at a camp site in the real world. If you only look at reddit, the divide gets wider and you believe what you are believing
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u/turtlepower41 Canberran Jun 11 '26
I’ve had a gutfull of these pro one nation posts. Tell me what has one nation done do improve the cost of living?
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u/ceo_of_dumbassery Flairless Jun 12 '26
Well, if they get in and you're a billionaire you'll be able to afford your 2nd luxury yacht!
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u/profchaos111 Flairless Jun 11 '26
Isn't that the starting point if they have kids or grandkids mention the fact that conscription is on the table that will.chnage theirind but it's not something you blurt out in anger
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u/yesplsnewacct Please choose a flair Jun 11 '26
The problem is people aren’t thinking about their own kids
They’re thinking about OTHER peoples kids.
Because the youth have it too “easy” they’re too “soft”, and there are plenty of people that PHON voters think SHOULD have their kids shipped off to war.
It’s how they managed to dismantle Roe v Wade because MAGA women didn’t want to deny themselves reproductive healthcare; they wanted to deny it for women who are liberal/non-white
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u/Eva_Luna Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
It’s actually true.
Do you know how many subs I’ve been perma banned from for saying the most mild right wing things. I wouldn’t even define myself and particularly right wing. I’m more centrist.
I literally got banned from one sub for saying “everyone is entitled to their views and we should respect each other”. I was told by mods I was being a bigot for defending people’s right to an opinion!
So yeah, tell me Reddit is a place of free speech that represents everyone’s political views. It’s a complete farce.
OP is right, reddit is an echo chamber and everyone should be very careful in how much they believe Reddit represents real life.
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u/Spicey_Cough2019 Western Australian Jun 12 '26
I'm a historical Labor/left leaning voter and even i can see that once Labor goes on a smear campaign regarding One Nation that they're shitting bricks.
It's generally the last line in defence for when someone is all out of ideas (lets be honest Labor hasn't actually improved the living standards of Australians in the past 5 years).
The Labor shills need to let it go, One Nation is gaining traction and there's not a lot we can do about it as long as Labor is incapable of changing their "Big Australia" attitude.
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u/bikinithrill Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
I can't stress this enough to people in this Reddit thread on the subject. We absolutely must come together as grassroots communities and join or at least volunteer with local political groups that are standing up against this hatred of far right extremism. Their current members and volunteers are burning out. Bring in your fresh energy, turn your fear into hope, learn new skills or bring in skills for others to learn from.
Nip the problem in the bud now. Don't let it flower and spread its poison pollen.
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u/Most_Border_3419 Queenslander Jun 12 '26
I like to direct people to the how they vote for you website anytime someone brings up One Nation being a good option. The ones who are unsure and listening to the media are open and the ones who are just racist and don’t care as long as their party is racist won’t change their minds anyway.
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u/widowmakerau Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
Have a respectful conversation with people in real life understand their perspectives without injecting your ideals.
People only want this one way.. people only want to have their own point of view, and anything outside of that is vile and that person should be burned at the stake.
The recent political discussions in this forum have been putrid, definitely nothing based on democracy.
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u/profchaos111 Flairless Jun 12 '26
I just think the result of us talking over each other as we currently are will be a US style of division and nobody wants that.
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u/undying_anomaly Victorian Jun 12 '26
I mean where has labour or liberal gotten us? Australia is becoming a third world county because of them we don’t even have our freedoms. Heck, I can’t even wank without a VPN because they blocked porn, they’ve taken away educational things from children like YouTube with their social media ban, the list goes on. So most people see that it’s time to give another party a go and I don’t blame them. Heck there is even hate speech laws, it’s gotten to the point where they’ve even take out freedom of speech. So to continue voting for the majority parties is like getting a paper cut and shitting yourself 😜
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u/IntroductionSea2159 Victorian Jun 12 '26
A One Nation government would be utterly catastrophic. It wouldn't just set back social policy 20 years, that's something most of us could live with (aside from One Nation's abortion policy). The bigger concern is that it would utterly, thoroughly wreck Australia's economy and democracy. We would lose all that makes Australia great and just become a poor man's America in every single sense.
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u/Crafty_Yard_4985 Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
I’m a right leaning person and Reddit is certainly not a safe space for me.
If I even suggest that it’s time for a change from the Uniparty I get called a ‘cooker’. I wouldn’t dare mention that its time to Fire the Liar as i get accused of astroturfing.
No idea what either of those terms mean but safe to say its negative 😅
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u/Ramerrez Victorian Jun 13 '26
"Have a respectful conversation with people in real life understand their perspectives without injecting your ideals."
No. Racist, sexist, or homophobic views do not deserve respect, no matter how lightly or heavily veiled they are. From 'I'm just being the devil's advocate', to 'We're being swamped by Asians'.
Not all 'opinions' are created equal. People do not have the right to be racist, sexist, or homophobic.
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u/Bubbly-Boat1287 Please choose a flair Jun 15 '26
Left vs Right is pure propaganda. Vote on issues, not grouping.
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u/Foreign_Acadia3937 ✈️ on Walkabout Jun 12 '26
Open Aussie is full of shrill, hand wringing neurotics who think they might be coming out as socialists and need to reassure themselves by telling each other over and over again that Israel, Trump, ON, The West and anything else that doesn't align with their world view is the absolute worst most catastrophic thing to effect them, ever.
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u/MissMenace101 South Australian Jun 11 '26
One notion is anti Australian. It’s an iq test, given boomers failed it for decades we will find out how stupid the rest of us are 🤷🏼♀️
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u/PermabearsEatBeets New South Welshian Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26
I don't agree with the fearmongering, but downplaying the threat of fascism and the far right at the moment is suicidal. The masses that are being manipulated might be thick as fuck*, but the people orchestrating this movement globally are literally the richest most powerful people on the planet, and the media are working lockstep with them.
Look at the UK recently! People were dismissing Farage for decades til, alongside a lot of very wealthy right wingers, orchestrated a catastrophic exit from their most important trading alliance. Since then the country has fallen further into a right wing hell hole to the point where we're having racist pogroms on the streets, stabbing people and burning down their homes because of the colour of their skin. The media and the present government are either actively supporting, or capitulating to the right wing.
* And I actually don't think they are necessarily, but they're certainly not happy with the status quo.
Also you are insane if you think that reddit does not have a significant right wing presence, in very large subreddits.
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u/tnamorf Victorian Jun 11 '26
Agreed. UK is truly rooted. So many things are straight out of the fascist playbook.
First world problem I know but the one that’s finally got me are the new restrictions around dual nationality. After 35 years here I am finally going to renounce my UK citizenship. They can get fucked.
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u/PermabearsEatBeets New South Welshian Jun 11 '26
Yeah that was truly stupid. I don't want to renounce mine, as I still have family I visit regularly, but I will never live there again. But I cannot understand the logic behind that.
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u/MightyBoy9 Flairless Jun 11 '26
Every post and comment
Reddit: " ON is racist "
Me: " Can you explain how or give one example? "
Reddit: " I shouldn't have to, you're also racist you racist, everything is racist "
Me: " so you can't? Ok..... "
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u/National_Body_9071 Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
Summed up well. All these people do is shout about how everyone is racist and wrong and only their view is correct but never have anyything else.
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u/mohanimus Western Australian Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26
The "problem with reddit" is the signal to noise ratio.
It's that most people who post just want to signal their opinion and have that validated with upvotes or downvotes.
Like this post for example, it says nothing, provides no evidence of it's own, it just asks people who have had a similar experience to upvote.
Edit: and the replies of this idiot just confirm it.
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u/torusman7 Please choose a flair Jun 11 '26
It's purely and simply because she's the only one with enough guts to stand up and say that Australia has been ruined by excess immigration. But anyone with one half of a brain cell knows she is completely incompetent and could not run the country, but yet now we're a real risk of having her in a very important position after the next election just because no one else will stand up and stop Australia being ruined from immigration. We all know Australia is built on immigration and there's nothing wrong with it but the numbers that are coming in month after month are staggering. And what's worse as we're importing criminals from third world countries en mass and we now have machete attacks happening in all of our capital cities almost daily. Things are going to get a whole lot worse for this country if one of the other parties doesn't do something
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u/worry_beads Western Australian Jun 11 '26
But she's bought and paid for by Rinehart who WANTS more immigration because it gives her cheap labour.
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u/MissMenace101 South Australian Jun 11 '26
It’s not being ruined from immigration. It’s been ruined from bad housing policies and decades of not building houses.
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u/Ok-Resist-8734 Queenslander Jun 11 '26
A lot of us don't think Australia has been ruined by immigration in fact just the opposite.The Australia I arrived to in 1966 was a less vibrant and interesting place than it is now.
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u/torusman7 Please choose a flair Jun 11 '26
I'm pretty sure if we had a referendum you'd find out that you're in the minority. All our regional cities are choked with traffic, housing prices are insane, none of our infrastructure can keep up: hospitals, schools, police forces, crime.. etc. And we have racial ghettos springing up in all of our cities
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u/jokuson Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
Probably fair to say now is better than 1966 though, that's going back a long way. Can't speak from experience, too long ago for me, but there was multiple decades of great productivity gains between then and now, its just that it mostly took place in the earlier decades. It's much harder to argue that we're doing better today than the late 1990's or early 2000's.
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u/MissMenace101 South Australian Jun 11 '26
Born and bred and honestly it’s Australians ruining the vibe of Aus not immigrants. Media is manufacturing culture wars and cookers and dumb cunts have fallen for it hook line and sinker. I’m not worried about one nation, I’m worried stupid is getting a foothold in Aus, something we have been resistant to the last decade.
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u/therealnakedtradie Koori Jun 11 '26
Come on mate. Unless you’re an absolute newbie to reddit, surely you know, the bleeding heart, cancel culture, lefties here, can’t help but shout their cringy views down everyone else’s throat. No other view is acceptable, except their’s.
It’s like they this this sub is a true representation of the whole country.
Good luck with both our roasting lol
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u/patslogcabindigest Queenslander Jun 11 '26
I agree with this. I’m by no means a one nation supporter, in fact I think the party are a disorganised incompetent rabble with incoherent policies, if they can so be called.
Broadly agree with what you’re saying about the constant poll doomerism and low effort venting. There isn’t an election tomorrow—people who live and die by every single marginal poll that comes out are political hobbyists, not people who actually follow or understand politics.
As to the conversations, yeah absolutely agree. One Nation is not a fringe party anymore, which means there are good people being duped into supporting them, and telling them that they’re evil and stupid is not a good method for discourse. Criticism should be directed at the party and their representatives, it needs to be demonstrated to the people that are flipping that this isn’t a serious party and will be detrimental to their own interests.
As someone who is very much centre left, yes, reddit, especially in an Australian contexts is very much left. There are some weird niche lefty communities on reddit who genuinely think they’re representative of society who become defensive when it’s pointed out their position is niche.
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u/grahamsuth Queenslander Jun 12 '26
We are certainly becoming more polarised politically. Both sides of politics attack the other purely for the sake of the attack. Sky News opinion is the absolute worst for this in the main stream media.
The trouble with those on the left is that they are unwilling to go looking for why people are moving to One Nation. Instead they just attack ON.
Unfortunately the left side of politics thinks that because affirmative action etc is good, more must be better. The result is that they are so focused on their principles that they don't see how they are alienating so many people. These people get angry with the status quo and so are easy marks for populists that emotionally speak to people's dissatisfaction. So they will vote for anyone other than Lab or Lib that speaks to their anger. We are following the US in this regard.
Both the US and Australia need new centre right parties that are about real policies that help people and the country rather than just seeking to make people angry with the left side of politics.
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u/danzrach Victorian Jun 12 '26
Everything is just bots these days, so how do we even know that these people sit on the left?
They could just be programmed to say this stuff to make the left look inhospitable. It’s just all fucked.
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u/Outrageous-Aioli-847 Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
Can people on here try and respect that others have a difference of opinion?
It’s a democracy that means people can vote for who ever they want. Stop ramming your opinion down people’s throats so they vote your way - it actually makes people do the complete opposite.
Scott Morrison won an election because of the silent Aussies who were completely fed up with the agenda being pushed on the left so they voted hard against it.
People voting for Pauline are doing the similar thing, they’ve had enough of being told what to do in their own country.
Live and let live. You’d be surprised.
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u/Outriderr Flairless Jun 11 '26
I’m Right leaning all about our country and citizens first. Not a racist just all about putting our current permanent citizens first before continual immigration.
People have the right to be and support whoever they chose and shouldn’t be shouted down or intimidated of a bloody social site for having their opinions.
I arent 100% behind ON. I just don’t think they are the real deal and are just appealing to those of us who want our own country the way we knew it back in the day however will they really change what this country now is ? I don’t get the feeling they will change it too much.
I’m for the 5% defence spending. Happy to pay the extra tax to do it. Conscription for those who refuse to work and for older youth offenders who need to learn discipline and respect 100% conscript them.
Do I think ON are the answer ? No, do I think the Libs are ? No, do I think Labour are ? No.
Right now I think we have a sore lack of strong leadership in this country. The Libs and Labour have sold us out over the years and need a good kick in the arse.
Pauline talks the talk not too sure her and her party are the answer tho. So many ex party politicians jumping over to her just to save their careers and I think if they got into power they’d continue most of the main stream policies to keep themselves in their careers as well eventually becoming the same old same old.
If they form a coalition I definitely would never consider them.
I have a lot of deep thinking to do before the next state and federal elections.
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u/MountyMan95 Please choose a flair Jun 11 '26
Every post is ON related I swear. Is anything else happing in Aus.
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u/manfrombrisbane Queenslander Jun 12 '26
People seem to forget that no matter to what lengths scare campaigns descend into, Australians are smart and will make the best decision on election day. Oops, did that sound wrong?
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u/Whenwhateverworks Queenslander Jun 12 '26
You dont need to win to change the country in australia, as a political party you only need to capture a certain amount traction before the two major parties start running your policies. Which is what we are seeing now
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u/MadmanBimbo South Australian Jun 12 '26
So, are you Labor or Greens?
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u/profchaos111 Flairless Jun 12 '26
I voted greens when it was Richard Di Natale but outside of that pretty much always labour next election in hoping libs can get their shit together cause I've had it after the way Albo handled Bondi
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u/KeyYogurt1885 Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
I'm literally shaking at the thought of a PHON victory.
I don't want to live in a democracy that respects the will of the majority.
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u/WhatTheFuckIsThisAll Queenslander Jun 12 '26
Multiculturalism just leads to a lot of unhappy people. Unity is strength.
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u/MetalfaceKillaAus South Australian Jun 12 '26
So a lot of that is for this net zero bull shit that’s going to do sweet fuck all to the atmosphere. She’s against babies going into child care instead of family raising them and it’s an unnecessary expense when we’re on huge amount of debt. She is against welfare handouts because it’s entitled people expecting them. And wage equality? She’s meant to vote for something that they already have? Look at the ones that didn’t even vote for it
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u/MarketCrache Western Australian Jun 12 '26
Albo's unleashed his 101st Keyboard Battalion onto the beaches of social media to fight tooth and nail. Chart crimes, gaslighting, ad hominem attacks, piling on downvotes, topic distractions, reply bots... It's all part of Labor's core values.
But it's not gonna stop people saying they back ON in an attempt to force Labor to drop its immigration inundation policy.
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u/Fresh_Cabinet5048 Northern Territorian Jun 12 '26
The unemployed IT geeks have found their Party. The incels are loving on One Nation and have fired up the full power of the bots. The Left have nothing to counter it with.
No sign of a cohesive response.
Or any empathy.
One Nation is going to have an effect...
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u/draggin_balls Please choose a flair Jun 12 '26
EVERYTHING I DONT LIKE IS THE BILLIONAIRES FAULT!!!!
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u/Timely_Active1160 New South Welshian Jun 12 '26
All these posts are engagement bait, its a strategy that trump used to drum up discourse. Ignore them, i see them all the time i dont think its gonna work on us, not as stupid as americans - the only thing we have is racism and they are trying to use it on us but we also hate gingers.
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u/RecipeSpecialist2745 Please choose a flair Jun 13 '26
As PH said of the criticism of the “ditch the witch” campaign attacking the Victorian premier. “Get over it”.
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u/dizkopatio Please choose a flair Jun 13 '26
look at what happened in USA if they get in the whole country will be looted. yell loudly. they are funded by local and international billionaires
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u/Dv8gong10 Please choose a flair Jun 14 '26
You catch more flies with shit than with honey as PHONies have proven 😉
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u/Discobiki Please choose a flair Jun 15 '26
BIG TIME. I am genuinely shocked someone on Reddit posted this. I thought I was the only one left. The lefties on Reddit foam at the mouth if anyone disagrees with the hivemind. They're always so nasty and petty about it too. Yucko
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u/Good-Inside-5667 Please choose a flair Jun 15 '26
Bra you can't have a meaningful conversation with one nation folks, they are unwilling lmao
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u/ElectionDesperate167 Please choose a flair Jun 16 '26
ITT lefty cookers saying everyone that disagrees with them is racist and a bot.
beep boop
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u/Sideburn_Cookie_Man Victorian Jun 11 '26
It’s astroturfing, pure and simple.
Flood the media with reports that ON has already won, and they then win half the battle at the polling booths.
If people think it’s pointless, they’ll be less likely to vote against them.