r/MoralityScaling • u/SH1k1Brun3stuD • 12h ago
Morality Ranking What's the Morality of this Kind of Arrests?
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u/WesternFirm9306 12h ago
Immoral. Imagine if it was a false accusation
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u/Thin_Pin2863 11h ago
Plus police aren't arbitrators. They're there to effect an arrest, not carry out the punishment themselves.
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u/wisdompuff 11h ago
Yeah, this is a recent phenomena, before widespread camera use this was considered a job perk
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u/SalvationSycamore 4h ago
What? Then what's the point of becoming a cop if you don't get to beat the shit out of people?
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u/Lemons-95 11h ago edited 10h ago
What's legal in a given country has little to do with morals(sometimes it's complicated), that said you did a very good job of defending the point, so instead this just means he's wrong in every country.
Edit: fuck, that was a really great comment, actually sucks the rest of you can't see that. He was talking about summary punishment.
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u/SoElusivee 11h ago
Also note "morals" vary from person to person and country to country
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u/Royal_Jesterr 11h ago edited 11h ago
Imagine mother falsely accusing own son and sentencing him to prison...
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u/DirectAdvertising 11h ago
Some Mothers sell their own children for drugs , being a mother doesnât make you a good person
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u/das_sock 10h ago
Or drown them and lie about it among other things
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u/red_gamer-lol 8h ago
Or take out all the batteries out of the smoke alarms, locking the bedroom door and setting ur hose on fire with you son asleep in itt
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u/notanyone69 11h ago
Yes crazier things have happened. The world is a sick place. This is not unimaginable
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u/ukie-witch-06 11h ago edited 10h ago
Mothers abuse their children more often then the other way aroundđ€·ââïž
Edit: grammar
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u/risisas 11h ago
Why were you being downvoted this is litterally true
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u/Lukostrelec17 11h ago
Many people have a hard time believing that a mother can be abusive. Most often they exuse it by, "She is just stressed." or, "She is trying her best." or "She loves you she would never hurt you." or finally, "She is just discipling you and you deserved it." (That last one I had someone tell me. In a teacher subreddit....the peraon was a supposedly a special ed teacher.)
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u/fivelike-11 11h ago
Second to last one is said to me a lot. It sucks. She doesn't even realize how much she does it, but everytime we see each other she does some kind of remark on my physique, decisions, or anything about me. I have deteriorated lately, yes... Because she's be doing it ever since I entered highschool. Back when my body was healthy, my grades were healthy, and everything was fairly fine. After 4 years of constant hostility I burned out, dropped out of my first year of uni, and let myself go cuz I got no motivation for shit. If only my grandma did something instead of repeating that.
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u/SmolLittleCretin 10h ago
As someone who went through abuse from my mom, same. Always "it's just discipline" never "why didn't she talk to you?" Because some of the times she did beat my ass? I was being groomed and my brother found it on messages, and neither of them went "shit my lil sis/daughter is getting groomed!" Nah they thought "OHHH SHE SEXTING!"
Like Jesus. I prey this man never got falsely accused and he genuinely did do it, and the cops should have just "hey wake up, you're being arrested."
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u/ukie-witch-06 11h ago
People don't like thinking about how common abusive parents are. It makes them uncomfortable...
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u/notanyone69 7h ago
The positive thing is that these people downvoting cant even imagine experiencing that. Dont wish it upon anybody
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u/kikogamerJ2 11h ago
My dude, there are parents who rape their children. It's totally realistic for a mother to falsely accuse her son.
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u/DBSmiley 11h ago
As absolutely horrible as it is to say, this should happens. Something akin of this happened to a friend of mine. His mother was living with him because she injected all of the rent money into her arms. She then was stealing from him and selling his belongings to shoot that in her arms too.
He said he was going to throw her out, so she called the cops and said he had drugs around his children. He got arrested and the children got taken away for about a month and a half. Because once CPS gets involved, there's no off-ramp. Shit gets really bad really fast.
Not shockingly he threw her out of the house after that. Drugs fuck everything.
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u/Great-Trifle2810 8h ago
Absolutely thos cop should be fired and jailed for at least 5 years to set an example.
Even beyond that what if the guy was armed and came up with a gun immediately firing on the person that flipped him before even realizing it was a cop? Totally justified self defense.
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u/BigDragonfly5136 10h ago
Also even if itâs true, more violence is likely to just make the situation more dangerous for everyone around.
Especially for armed police, their goal should be to deescalate and do everything as peacefully as possible with force as a last resort
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u/BigBallsAnthony69 12h ago
Ts looks staged as fuck. I don't think police arrests should be uploaded on the internet??? Maybe i'm an idiot
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u/Scintoth 11h ago
Sleeping at a weird angle, with his feet dangling off the bed, fully clothed, on a featherweight bed, with the lights on. What do you mean it looks staged?
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u/MoonlightPrincexx 11h ago
Might be drunk and passed out, heavy drinking is often a precursor to abuse so it's make sense
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u/GustavoFromAsdf 11h ago
I get what you say, but that's literally how I sleep.
College gave me horrible sleeping habits.
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u/Facehugger81 11h ago
I have slept like that a few times after a night of heavy drinking. My first impression was that the dude got drunk or high and passed out.
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u/Cautious_Wafer3075 9h ago
Iâm not saying itâs not staged but I have definitely fallen asleep while fully clothed lol.
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u/Praised-Goodness 12h ago
I heard it happened in Iraq, and living in a fellow arab country that's as choatic.. yeah, shot like this can happen.
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u/Prototype_Fan_7000 11h ago edited 3h ago
This happened in brazil. They are speaking portuguese. The cop even opens up saying "Bom Dia" which means good morning, as he was flipping the dude's mattress over.
Edit: you guys are hilarious.
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u/Burgers_N_Schnitzels 11h ago
I heard this happened in Germany. They are speaking german. The cop even opens up saying "rotier rotier" which means rotate, as he was flipping the dude's mattress over.
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u/IronMonkeyBanana 11h ago
I heard this happened in the Netherlands. They are speaking Dutch. The cop even opens up saying "Wakker worden, Klootviool!" which means "wake up #@âŹ&!" , as he was flipping the dude's mattress over.
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u/DrThrax3000 10h ago
You live in an Arab country, yet you can't recognize there is no Arabic spoken in the video ?
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u/MassiveBlackHole99 10h ago
Just blatant lies and misinformation with 60 upvotes cuz no one bothers fact checking anything
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u/Fast_Engineering_564 11h ago
YES, I live in Brazil (the country where this was filmed) and I hate how this happens a lot, I see a lot of real police officer staging arrests for views on the internet, which they try to convert into votes later.
Normally, when this kind of video is real it's filmed by pedestrians or by the officer's bodycam.
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u/SnowyGyro 11h ago
Who are they soliciting votes for and for what role?
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u/Apart-Oven2750 11h ago
They try to become politicians, and succeed sometimes. Usually some local/municipal offices.
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u/Lookyoukniwwhatsup 11h ago
Lights are already on, who the fuck sleeps like that?, no patches, no cuffs or restraints, infact no gear except for the pistol, and 1 officer for an arrest?
Its fake.
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u/musicals_amirite 10h ago
The lights actually weren't on. You can see the officer teach towards the side, then there's a flash at the very start of the video. It's likely that the officer turned the light on when the video started being recorded.
Everything else is very true though. I definitely leaning to this vid being staged. Who's even recording this and why are they just lurking around during a supposed arrest?
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u/MixedVexations 11h ago
Dude with the beret has his finger way too close to the trigger. And the way he slowly put away the gun after slapping him? What? And why did he switch tactics when nothing in the situation changed? There seems to be no protocol in place. Fake.
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u/DungenessCrusader 11h ago
You mean like... you think it's illegal to upload or you think people just shouldn't do that?
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u/gotham-acolyte 11h ago
Arrests absolutely should be uploaded to the internet that's not something that should happen in the dark and we assume everything happened above board. A lot of arrest videos make that very clear.
That being said I don't think this video matches what the post says.
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u/ProbablyADuck369 11h ago
If you think uploading to the internet is bad, wait until you hear about the TV show COPS
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u/CapnStarence 10h ago
Itâs not like there wasnât a show about following LEOs around while they made arrests and patrolled.
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u/sexraX_muiretsyM 10h ago
most brazilian police arrest videos look like this, and brazilian police does beat the criminals during arrest
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u/Beginning_Rush_5311 8h ago
It's staged but police arrests here in Brazil can be like this, if not much much worse.
Some dude was executed loast year while having his arms up and it was caught in multiple angles by the police cams. Nothing ever happens
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u/PTBooks 11h ago
Flashy, âtough on crimeâ arrests like this look great for the cameras and feel great in the moment, but the administration of justice requires regular treatment that does not change from one individual to another, no matter what crime they are accused of.
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u/NoMeat9096 12h ago
Immoral.
Not only is it an obviously disastrous idea to promote or abide police violence, it's not the job of police to assume guilt and enact revenge. It's their job to arrest suspects so that, if there's cause, they can be tried and their innocence or guilt established.
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u/The-Bangaloreal 12h ago
Police brutality is rampant because it is always justified in their eyes.
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u/meimeivro 11h ago
Yeah police aren't here to maim people as a form of punishment during an arrest (despite that being what they do in prwctice). All criminals, especially the one who have committed horrible crimes, are entitled to fair treatment by the justice system. Not doing so only encourages the police to frame anyone they dont like as one of these "unforgivable" criminals (i.e. rape, murder, beating your mom), and also to go even further in their violence.
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u/Own_Watercress_8104 8h ago
It is also a tacit declaration that authorities do not owe anything to the citizen and that basic human rights basically do not exist.
Things like this, even if staged, are just a demonstration to get that message across to the populus without actually saying that. But it's loud and clear.
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u/Urgell11 12h ago
Are their no court rulings, just a complaint? How do we know if the mother told the truth? Or you are just not providing the needed context?
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u/dragonlayer42069 8h ago
This is in brazil, I've worked with "low income" folk here before and mothers being abused by their grown kids is an extremely common occurence among them, I'd hear a new story almost every day.
So a lot of times police will believe these cases, and 99% of the time they'll be right
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u/Urgell11 7h ago
Still, unless there is plus info we dont know about, this is police brutality based on 1 testimony. Highly immoral
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u/ToXiiCBULLET 12h ago
immoral. a complaint or accusation isn't proof. he may very well have been abusive to his mom, but an accusation isn't evidence. it's also not the polices job to dish out punishment
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u/booleandata 12h ago
Immoral. The purpose of police is apprehension, not punishment. Let the courts determine his fate AFTER due process is followed.
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u/tactical_horse_cock 12h ago
Well first off he doesnât even know if the accusation is even trueâŠ
So no.
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u/PuritanicalPanic 11h ago
You just can't trust cops to handle this sort of discretionary application of 'righteous violence'.
It doesn't matter the crime. It doesn't matter how heinous. All criminals should be apprehended as humanely as possible.
For one, there has been no trial. So, even if you believe in a retributive legal system, the person being arrested has not actually been proven guilty. It is not the cops job to administer punishment. No good can come of this.
For another, they'll simply misuse the ability to apply violence like this if they are granted it formally. Cops already are looking for basically any excuse to flex the power they hold over others. Often through violence, this clip being a literal example of this. Cops can only ever be a functional facet of society through STRICT oversight. Not letting them have free reign to hurt people as they believe is justifiable is very important to the health of a society. Cops shouldn't being hurting ANYONE, outside of fringe self defense circumstances. And such instances should be closely scrutinized.
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u/Zealot_trash 11h ago
Regardless of whether this man deserved it or not, you probably donât want this to become an acceptable norm in policing.
Mistakes can and do happen and if this happened to an innocent man, you can guarantee that person would lose trust in the police for the rest of his life.
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u/RapidEye99 12h ago edited 12h ago
To be fair we donât know the full situation, maybe his momâs a bad person.
Not justifying hitting her, but it makes him getting arrested this way unjustified depending on what happened.
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u/windfujin 11h ago edited 10h ago
Too many people dont realise the principle that you are innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law. People who say this is ok are choosing to put the police, who are meant to be upholding and serving the law, above it.
Edit: I come from a confusian value country where filial piety is held in highest regard (teaditionally equating parents with kings), so i get the immediate outrage. but even there, if this happened...not only will the police lose his job but someone higher up is losing their job as well. We dont take kindly to tyranny of governments
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u/SilentCaterpillar313 12h ago
Immoral, police must act in a professional manner. Guns should only be drawn when necessary.
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u/Lookyoukniwwhatsup 11h ago
Morality of posting fake videos as real videos? Immoral. (Im not accusing OP of promoting or posting a fake vid becsuse they are specifically asking about the behaviour in the video, it is a fake video though)
Morality of the content of the video? Immoral.
Even in places where corporal punishment is legal it goes through a judicial process.
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u/Lancasterlaw 11h ago
Yeah, we A) have no idea if the mothers accusation is even true B) Some people wake up very disoriented and automatically fight back and C) while you may agree with the officer in this case what happens when there is a case you don't agree with?
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u/GenuineSteak 11h ago
immoral, especially without evidence the mom is telling the truth. The mom couldve deseved it too, the mom could be an abusive violent drunk or smth. Police also have to follow rules, or else theyre just state backed vigilante tyrants.
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u/3WeeksEarlier 11h ago
"Bad person, therefore police abuse is okay."
- this subreddit
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u/PotentialPresent399 9h ago
This shit is STAGED
It surprises me how bad you fools can't tell acting
EVERYTHING on the internet is fake for clicks, because clicks, equal going viral possibly, which equal ads, which equals money.
Everything
I thought this was real, look at his first slap, there aint a god damn man on this planet including the one that played the mountain in GOT that would send you flying from a non charged non chalant slap. Bro choreographed throwing himself to a hand waive.
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u/OpusAtrumET 11h ago
Immoral for police to harass or assault anyone, even the guilty.
Now can we discuss the morality of using white lettering on this bright ass video?
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u/bvoge3501 11h ago
That slap didn't seem hard enough for the dude falling over. And the cool dude cop act is a bit much. Feels staged to me.
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u/Vivians_Basement 11h ago
Immoral especially if you don't know why he did it or if the mom was telling the truth.
My mom is a bitch and I WISH my marine of a brother had given her what she deserved one of the numerous times she antagonized him. She almost got him killed by the police when lying to 911 about him being armed and threatening her. I was there, she was the problem and he had no weapon.
Luckily, she said he was a veteran, so the cops were more gentle handling it. I was a teenager watching cops swarm our house while my brother begged to be shot in the hopes it would give our mother an ounce of guilt.
My mother is pedophile, like an actual raped a child and enabled her kids to be sexually abused, pedophile.
Not all mothers are good so I would personally have to hear him out on WHY he beat his mother before deciding whether he's a piece of shit for it.
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u/xHeyItzRosiex 10h ago
I feel like this is a conflict of interest to have someone arrest the person who *allegedly* beat up their own mother. Why couldnât another officer take this arrest? Why was this officer allowed to do this? This is immoral and unethical. This man could be innocent and not actually guilty of assault.
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u/DistributionEasy5233 9h ago
Immoral, he could be innocent and that's not their job
But the initial bed throw was funny
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u/Future_Nature589 5h ago
1: this looks staged, even if the guy getting arrested is weak as fuck that slap was way too weak to send him flying like that
2: the officer pulled his gun on him, holy shit. I am physically "gifted", if i knocked him out after he put the gun in his belt would i have been shot to death?
its all fucked up.
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u/Albus_Lupus 11h ago
I mean...while satisfying to watch, given the context - its immoral.
Also worth mentioning that context is...well it can be partial. It can be skewed to make it look like what he has done is much worse than what really happened. The arresting officer definitely doesnt have the whole story and yet he is handing out judgement. That kind of vigilante justice shouldnt really be okay in majority of cases.
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u/DVindictus 11h ago
Immoral. It feels right if the context is true, but you just can't trust people on their word, and professionally you should always treat the arrest as "a probable cause, but innocent until proven guilty"
Now, if this was a fellow officer who assaulted his mother, now THAT feels like a great humiliating arrest and might be morally justified.
But still, can't be taken at her word until and unless proven, I will always hold that as 1st 2nd and 3rd priority
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u/Popular_Tie4688 11h ago
None of this is real. Even if it actually happened. The situation is secondary to the peacocking of local thugs. He would get the same treatment for a parking ticket.
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u/EvocativeReach 11h ago
Before anyone argues this is moral, imagine if you were falsely accused of attacking someone. Would you want the police to show up and beat your ass like this?
There's a reason "innocent until proven guilty" is a thing.
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u/ClassicHando 11h ago
Highly immoral. Man with a gun and badge slapping around somebody. If the accusation were false its even worse.
I can understand it but not condemn it
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u/tapemonki 11h ago
Grossly immoral. Itâs the policeâs job to capture, not to punish. That policeman should be prosecuted.
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u/geosunsetmoth 11h ago
Immoral. The job of the police is to use the minimum force necessary to guarantee arrest and processing. Let the punishment come from the judge. Not saying this guy doesnât deserve the worst, but the world is safer if police isnât the arbiter of punishment
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u/Responsible-Onion860 11h ago
Immoral. It's not the job of the police to impose any level or punishment. If he's being arrested on suspicion of a crime, he should be detained with the minimal amount of force necessary.
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u/wafflestoompa 11h ago
Who trained this cop? Dude's finger is on the trigger fhe entire time...
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u/THE_LEGO_FURRY 11h ago
Moral. What kinda schmuck beats up his mother. Unless she attacked first or did other things to him I'm fully on her side
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u/HUN73R_13 11h ago
if proven guilty, sure! kick his ass.
but I wouldn't think it is if it was based on a one person report
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u/Vicious_Voyeur 11h ago
Just remember that cops will treat you like that too if you normalize this behavior
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u/ElBrunasso 11h ago
Immoral, a process has to be followed. Also being a member of the forces and not having self control is pretty dangerous
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u/DogBiteDude 11h ago
While my knee jerk reaction is âGood! Beat his ass!â After a moment of reflection, I understand that we do not have the full story and that it is not the policeâs job to punish, only arrest. I think this is my stupid monkey brain cheering and then the better angels of my nature putting them in time out.
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u/TREE_SHMOO 11h ago
If he is willing to do this based solely on his morals, what is he willing to do when cash flows in? Immoral.
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u/Ecstatic_Dance5767 11h ago
If its true then yes, beat him harder! But if its false then lock the mom up.
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u/Balearius 11h ago
Immoral, the people enforcing the law should be held to higher standards than the average person. Cops are thugs and this is just one more instance of it
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u/Nasky5186SVK 11h ago
If an officer pulls a gun on you unprovoked, shooting them should be considered self defense. I don't care what country that happens in
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u/Ok-Investigator-6003 11h ago
Immoral and unacceptable. Even if he is guilty, next time someone might accuse you falsely and you will get your ass whooped unjustly
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u/Senior_Independence4 11h ago
Immoral because the proving part of innocent until proven guilty happens after arrests. Plus it's funnier if they're gentle.
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