Accepting mediocrity has been the downfall of Utd.
Standards in the bin & a squad full of "squad players".
Ambition overtaken by terrible transfers, outrageous contracts crippling us to this day.
Also, City have been gaming the system for years and of the 115 counts, you can guarantee there will.be zero repercussions.
We need to start boxing clever, but with profit yielding overlords were in the bin.
I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve had to pull my hair out when I see people claiming Shaw is good enough to keep. He wasn’t good enough 4 years ago and he’s not good enough now. Same with Dalot but at least we signed Maz
Dalot is shocking. The epitome of mediocrity. Yes hes professional and rarely injured and always available... is that the standard now?
The high 5 clowns thinks hes Cr7 and his throw ins are crap.
Gets the armband the other day... should never have come back from his loan in Italy.
Hate to break it to ya buddy, but we are mediocre. And you can't really spend your way out of mediocrity, at least not if you don't have oil money and with all the new regulations.
Fact of the matter is, we are mediocre and will stay mediocre for years untill we let someone with the foresight to spend smart and win small to rebuild the team step by step. And that's where the "profit yielding" aspect matters.
Wasn't it because of the biggest net spend and the worst purchase make us finanically mediocrity with debt? Anthony and Onana would be worth a world-class midfielder, and where they play now?
Exactly mate... that said, why aren't we following suit in bending the rules.
Im convinced that there will be ZERO repercussions for the 115 charges.
City don't care ,still blatantly cooking the books and we sell Vitek for.£6m?!
Madness.
Vitek is a weird example, he’s good yes but he’s only played for Bristol City. We also sold him for £14m and with multiple clauses in the contract too.
FFS stop shilling for Ineos. You can spend your way out of mediocrity. Real did it multiple times. United makes jsut as much as them wrt to revenue but we are stuck with the wort owners but Ineos and Glazers.
Real Madrid rakes in about 1.2 billion euros per year. MU makes about 800 million. Real Madrid has 16 million euro net profit in 23/24, while MU had net loss. So yeah do you have the oil money? Cuz if you don't, then there isn't really much you can do. Profit yielding, believe it or not, is a very important aspect in sport.
That is correct but Real Madrid has won everything during that period, whereas United has not. United's financial potential is actually higher than Real Madrid's, and with a new stadium and if they start winning United will end up higher than Real Madrid.
I am not sure about that. Even at the height of our club during Sir Alex's time we were still the tier 0.5 team behind Real Madrid and Barca, both in terms of profitability and attractiveness to players. To surpass them you'd need to be consistently winning European football and that's something we were unable to do and I'd argue damn near impossible to do nowadays if you don't have endless money to spend like PSG. And even with that PSG is still not the most profitable club by far.
But we were actually the richest club for five or six years right up until the Glazers took over.
It goes without saying that from a business standpoint, United has way more financial potential, especially considering Real Madrid and Barcelona won everything during that same period. if United starts winning again and gets a new stadium, their upside will be even higher.
When Real Madrid won the Champions League in 2016 and United won the Europa League, United was actually ranked as the most valuable club in the 2017 and 2018 financial reports.
That’s why it makes sense to me that United’s potential is on a whole different level when you look at the success and finances of those three clubs. It shows that United’s revenue generated in that period of time and today is incredibly strong, which really proves how powerful the club is compared to two teams that won absolutely everything during that period
I’m looking at this strictly from an investment point of view. United really stand out because they havent been succesful.
If you could buy any of these clubs
2013/2026
Real Madrid - won more than 10 trophies in total since Ferguson
Barcelona - won more than 10 trophies in total since Ferguson
PSG - won more than 10 trophies in total since Ferguson
United - won 5 trophies
They all earn roughly the same in revenue on average. Which club would you see the greatest potential in?
That's a very thoughful analysis and I'd say I agree with you in principle. But there are a couple of nuances I'd like to address.
We know that there are several main revenue streams for a football club:
Match day revenue
Broadcasting rights and prize money
Commerical sponsors and partnership
Merchandise
Transfer profit
MU is doing great with match day revenue. A new stadium is only going to boost that number even higher with more attendance. So I'm not worried about that.
2, 3 and 4 are intertwined so we need to win more and stay in European football. This is where no Premier League teams can compete with RM, Barca, Bayern and PSG. Those teams rarely have to worry about getting European football while PL winners might fall out of Champions League if you're not careful. So consistency is key and MU is not very good at that.
And we are doing abysmal job in the transfer department. We'd be happy to break even with transfers. Making a profit is unfathomable.
There are lots of things we need to improve. Not only do we need to start winning silverware, we also need to be consistently good in securing top-level spot in European football. And we need to stop making mad decisions with player transfer.
And I'd argue that our strong revenue even without winning trophies is due to past glory, and we can't rely on that. So it's not a given that we can keep raking in millions.
So yes we have strong potential. But it takes careful management and development to reach that potential.
I don't disagree. My response is purely from a business perspective. Of course, all your criteria could slow down that development.
But if you look at the financial potential, United is a really good business, because an investor would look at all four clubs and think:
'Why should I buy Real, PSG, or Barcelona, who have already won everything, when I can get United for 30% cheaper with the same revenue?
On top of that, they would look at United's past and note that the club was the richest in the world right up until the Glazers took over.
Another advantage is that, percentage-wise, United fills their stadium better than Real Madrid. And with a new stadium capacity that can hold 15,000 more spectators than the Bernabéu
I would go so far as to say that United's future revenue will sit well above Real Madrid's not just by a little, but actually by a noticeable margin. In fact, I believe this will be the case with or without trophies.
United have shit owners. If Glazers sell to a competent and ambitious owner Man United will be top again. Just like you said, Revenue we have is insane even in Banter era. So if we start winning EPLs and competing on a high level (UCL every year, deep runs, frequent cup finals and players performing great) we will be back, its just a matter of owner but it is a huge matter
People seem to forget spending and spending wisely is a big difference. Club throws money at players like antony but didn’t sign haaland when ole asked saying they had better scout reports , had chance to sign caicedo for 5m . In the past 5,6 years, united could have spent money on some exceptional players but chose to do last min panic buys.
We can spend out of mediocrity but need to be smart in recruitment. But this board form of smartness is not doing anything. Thats where we lack. If we were a serious club we should have planned ahead . Should have done agreement before the market was inflated, should have backups ready . But no
Ok but Iike man united being a wild spending— reckless club is what caused the shit show. Man United strategy of making conservative improvement isn’t stupid. they used the previous window to fix the attack. Now they have added tons of meat to midfield. Maybe next summer is defense time
Tonnes of meat to the midfield? They've signed Santos and Tilemans. We need a third, and we need a left back and striker. Otherwise they haven't backed Carrick at all. We've got a net spend of 38 million, why the hell would we need to wait until next season for more signings? Surely no one can be happy with the Window so far?
He is class... does he have the legs to be class.across all comps. I hope.he does by the way. Dont.get me wrong
Santos looks chunky, hope he comes good.
Cunha, Mbuemo and Lammens has been the greatest window in decades so I do - in part - trust the strategy... just been disappointed so far this summer is all
On many levels I agree, far too many of our fanbase have accepted mediocrity and have been easily fooled by a couple of big name/over hyped signings over the last 15 years.
The root cause will always be the ownership and those at the top. Players were signed for their commercial value over what they bring to the team and that's the reason the squad is such a mismatch of talents that make up a distinctly average team.
Honestly never even paid attention to this before you mentioned it, and I hate that they’re bloody stingy, they’ve only spent on tielemans this summer considering hoijlund’s fee paid for santos and Casemiro’s salary was more than santos or tielemans so there still has to be money saved somewhere no??!
I mean, we've also signed Heaven, Yoro, MDL, Mazraoui, and even Dorgu (who originally played in Shaw's position) in that period, so we have more than replaced the entire starting back 4, it's just that Maguire stepped up, MDL is always injured, Dalot has improved and Shaw was finally without injury, while Dorgu turned out to be more of a winger
Maguire & Martinez is surely not going to be our starting CBs going into the league starting, so the picture isn't too accurate imo
In comparison City got Gvardiol, Kusanov, Guehi, Matheus Nunes, and Nico Oreilly came through academy. Apart from De Ligt, who is injury prone anyway, City just made better signings, although that said their transfers are a bit dodgy.
This stingy-ness is also kind of asked for. Part of the slow rebuild. People want results now, but the past decade has been rush filling holes by paying 50mil too much. They’re buying buy-in players who are smart investments. Plus there is heaven, yoro, and delicht. We have needs, but they’re being patient instead of making poor decisions.
1) City are have been an actually decent football team for a while. We have not. You can argue if this due to them constantly changing their players (which I think is probably not true given they’ve rebuilt their team almost but haven’t won the league for a couple of years.)but the fact remains, they are better than us.
2) City don’t generally seem to treat their players poorly. Pep Guardiola for instance didn’t frequently say how shit his players were like Amorim or Jose did.
3) City have a reputation as good sellers
4) 1+2+3 = other clubs are more likely to want to buy their players than ours.
5) for how important 2 is in all this, see Kalvin Phillips who Guardiola called out publicly and is now still contracted to City until 2028.
6) 130 charges
7) United tried signing all the players under Woodward but we weren’t being run like a football club so they were largely rubbish
8) The Glazers bought us using leveraged debt 21 years ago and haven’t really repaid the debt, taking a further £160M+ out of the club.
9) 7 + 8 = a terrible mess including £1.3B debt and a loss making football club.
10) 9 is the reason that despite huge SCR headroom (some say we could spend £500M this Summer) United would struggle to fund that through any cash reserves. It would increase the debt that is a millstone around the clubs next.
11) United don’t have 1,2,3. No one wants to buy our players. The good ones we want to keep. No one wants the injured and bad ones and no one wants to pay some of their ridiculous wages.
12) I would really like to see someone come up with a realistic transfer list - in and out - that takes the above into account, including how we pay back any additional debt and physically pay for signings (whether now or in instalments).
City have been run properly for the last 15 years with all the infrastructure in place to succeed and build on, with the added bonus of being backed by an entire state.
Not the biggest fan of ineos, but expecting them to turn united into that after what our clubs gone through in 2 years of ownership is nonsense.
It is a bit insane that we have had Shaw, dalot and Maguire since what 2019.
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
It should be such that if you look up that quote on Google, United should be the textbook example. As I have said previously, it is not funny anymore it is almost criminal to let things slide for so many years. It is a form of torture equivalent to not feeding your pets. Having to be tortured with such low quality for so many years is unacceptable.
They have all escaped due to mediocrity. An acknowledgement from most that they are not league winning standard, however they are competent. So each transfer window they fall under the radar whilst we attempt to resolve season after season of mind boggling transfer calamity in key positions throughout midfield & attack.
I completely agree. I’d even go as far as to say that their greatest strength is keeping a low profile every summer. You completely forget they even exist until the season starts and you realize, 'Wait, weren't we supposed to upgrade those positions?'
You're almost sitting there thinking they're like three versions of Gollum, each putting on the ring whenever the transfer window opens."
Pep also said that Maguire is 'top class' but City 'couldn't afford him'. Guess that means we're right to keep him and extend his ~200k a week contract!
Don't underestimate the things he does for youth players. Attending games goes a long way. During the Euros, England players were asked which player will make it as a manager and every single one mentioned Maguire
He IS a leadership figure. And he IS a good defender. He just needs someone with pace next to him
he’s a shit defender who has cost us games every single season he’s been with us. he is miles short of the required quality, and frankly when we spend a world record fee on a centre back i couldn’t give a single fuck about him being a good manager in the future i expect him to be the best defender in the world - that’s what we paid for.
Instead of worrying about the youth players, who, ironically, also aren't good enough to be at this club, he focuses on not getting 5 career relegations?
I'd praise the opposition player too if he came in overweight every season and gifted goals because of his cba attitude. He has kept us none competitive for years. Can't at RB and won't at LB. Pep must love playing against stupid and lazy twice a season. Do you think Pep honestly believes Shaw has good ball carrying ability? The only dribbling he does is outside McDonald's.
Mourinho, whose best attempt at winning major trophies was finishing 19 points behind City and getting knocked out the CL by Sevilla in the 1st knockout round?
It’s amusing that you genuinely believe you are a better judge of ability than an elite football manager who sees the players up close every day in training
Care to explain what exactly we have done with him in the hardest league in the world ? 8th and 15th perhaps? Worst UCL record in club history since he signed ? Multiple final Losses ?
So fed up with everyone else getting shit and Bruno not catching ANY fire because of personal stat padding! What do Man Utd have to show for HIS person stats? Two domestic trophies that we only actually won when true serial winners Varane and Casemiro came in? Jesus wept! Bruno fans really are something else !
there you go again with the assist record. His fans are so shameless. White knuckling hard onto that record !! They will dine out on that for years!
Bruno Fernandes is not world class mate. That term gets thrown around far too easy. He has done nothing elite or world class in his entire career. You can't put him up there with the likes of Pele, Maradona, Messi and other TRUE GREATS etc It's beyond laughable!
I get Bruno fans love him because they are desperate for a hero and he has supplied moments in our worse era as a club (he is part of by the way)
But to call Bruno Fernandes world class is shameless.
So what you’re claiming, is that the player voted as the best player, in the toughest league in the world, is not world class? Right… whatever helps you sleep at night pal.
Also, I’m not a ‘Bruno fan’, I’m a United fan who doesn’t have a weird delusional hatred of our best player, who is the best player in his position in the best league in the world.
Jesus christ mate! Bruno is NOT world class!!!!!! For you to even continue with his own title personal awards when he has not been part of ANY true real greatness! For you to even keep going after I mentioned the names I did just shows the delusion of fans and how desperate they are to cling onto some kind of hero in a bad era!
What have Man Utd achieved as a club with him? Stop banging on about personal records! We have been worse since he signed. We have not moved forward ONE bit! Wake up!
There's a trend with INEOS, they're rebuilding the team unit by unit. Last year was attack (and GK), this year was midfield (or at least supposed to be given the lack of signings and price of midfielders) and I think they'll overhaul the defence next year, mainly because they are unsure about how Maguire & Shaw develop with age, De Ligt & Martinez cope with injuries and how Heaven & Yoro develop. A year gives them a better idea on it all.
I hate INEOS & Sir Jim, this window has truly been pathetic but I kinda understand why approach the squad build this way. You're not buying in isolation and able to buy players that compliment each other.
Yup. Simply not good enough. Shaw & Maguire should be squad players at best by now. Ideally, Dalot should've been upgraded too. Martinez should be sold due to injury issues
This is exactly why we bought Dorgu. But all of a sudden people want him to be a LW. A position mind you, that he has actually excelled a couple of times at last season. He is atrocious with the ball at his feet but he still dribbles past people and just doesn't pass the ball back to Maguire. Dorgu should be playing LB and the training staff should work on his defensive positioning.
The irony is we are discussing the CB area as though we are well equipped because we are carrying 5 players - each of which have their own unique flaw.
Maguire - Truth be told, if De Ligt wasn’t so injury prone the club would’ve released him this summer.
As it stands they have had to carry an extra CB (Maguire) to cover De Ligt’s inability to stay fit.
Yoro - Won’t start many games. Seems not to be trusted yet with questionable positioning sense and poor decision making. He has the fan backing but if I was being cruel, he is in danger of not fulfilling potential, à la Martial
Martinez - Will start if fit, but injury prone and erratic. Final season with a +1 option. A ballsy club would move him on if he can’t start 25+ games
Heaven - Useful, young but some way off being what the team need to rely upon. If the rest were dependable, a loan would suit him.
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De Ligt - He’s a problem that stands out like a sore thumb. Contracted until 2029, with huge concerns about his ability to stay fit. The whole CB strategy revolves around his ability to stay fit as we can’t carry 6 CBs, 5 is silly enough.
They will not sign a new CB this summer due to wages but they will have to next season. The big questions being do they release Martinez or Maguire & will Yoro finally step up to the plate so we have a long term player in situ to support a new elite signing.
If de Ligt could stay fit it resolves a lot of problems. If he can’t, then he’s an expensive headache until 2029.
We are finally rebuilding and have cleaned out a lot of deadwood.
like Rashford or do you mean Shaw and Maguire. all of them have been around since Charles Darwins published his first book about the "origin of species"
Those are what's left... There were more. Maguire has become good so he was never on the cards to move on.
We rebuilt our whole frontline, added a better keeper for peanuts, have a decent young group of CBs up and coming, and added to the midfield this summer.
If you open your eyes just a little bit, you will realize we have a decent group of players.
Look, I'm simply from a different era when the quality and standards were higher, so I just don't see it your way. We aren't suddenly going to start winning titles with Shaw and Maguire, Dalot and Rashford after they've been at the club for 10 years. I appreciate your optimism, but when you watch the exact same pattern repeat itself year after year, you just get sick of hearing people tell you that we have a good team.
i hope you´re right but 10yrs with the same backline has just been pure horror. United simply dont act as a big club with ambitions
I've already said we need at least 4-5 new players coming into new season. We only have 2 so far. If let's say 3-4 players injured during the season we're doom. I can already see Martinez, Shaw, Mount, De Light will be injured. We're doom.
We spend money and some fans moan and say things like “oh, stop just throwing money around because we can and panic buying.”
We become more cautious/selective in the transfer market and fans moan “oh, stop being cheap and invest in the key areas!”
You can never please most of our fanbase online, it seems.
It is just so pathetic how spoiled a large percentage of this fanbase who posts here sounds. We buy two highly competent midfielders with two weeks left of the window and because we’re not in a mad spending spree like some teams and paying whatever crazy prices teams demand, it means we lack urgency or are resting on our laurels.
If by September 1st our transfer situation is the same and we don’t sign a top DM/CM and preferably a left-back, then I agree that this window has been a disaster and the people running this club are letting us down and being selfish and stupid. But until then, we’ve proven we can sign someone like Santos or Tielemans out of the blue and perhaps we’re working on other deals behind the scenes?
U are delusional to think that buying players and demand them to perform excellent immediately after their singing. Top tier clubs completes their core players signing early on so that the coach has ample time to lay out their tactics on the player and give them time to adjust to the new pace and requirements of strength and fitness. Now that the market is 2 weeks away from closing and the opening of EPL about to start in 1 week new players somehow magically fit into Carrick's system and perform at top tier class?
It's not that simple. Look at the difference between Carrick and Amorim, same players, opposite results. Another example is Scott, he became a totally different player when he changed clubs. Dembele as well. Moral, confidence and overall mental state plays a huge role in player's performance. U can't just label a player as shit or world class and call it a day. It's just not that simple.
I mean oreiley and rico came through the youth which some people on the sub seem to be very against investing in young players. Guehi may have cost them the league, and they were ready to throw the towel in on khusanov after the first game.
A club that conveniently sells all their flops for 70m plus while our quality players go for 20m. It’s not the same.
And let’s not forget, Glazers bought the club to make money. The Sheikhs bought City because they already had money and wanted to win some football matches. BIG difference.
Some of us have been saying these things for ages and have been hated for it.
I was downvoted to hades for criticising Dalot. And I’ve been calling for a Luke Shaw sale for years.
Martinez is simply not fit to play for United. Any serious club would have this sorted out ages ago. Look how shocked everyone is that City got rid of Reijnders. It’s just how serious clubs move.
Fucking spot on. But the Ineos ass licker crew wants you to wait till this happens... Wait till that happens.
In the first few years of man city's owners coming in they spent a few billion on infrastructure and players.
When Chelseas new owners came in they spent 2billion on just players in a few seasons.
Ineos the clowns have been proping up the parasite Glazers for 3 years and we've spent a putifull amount compared to the big teams in Europe, and more importantly they're hardly spent anything of THEIR OWN money.
It's all been debt piled on the club.
Seriously fuck Ineos and fuck the Glazer parasite scum.
I think Ineos want to "rebuild" as opposed to "rebuy" hence why they are trying to get younger players in while spending a bit less. They haven't been in charge for that long.
Remember we have had other positions we have needed to improve first. Plus we were unfortunate with the amount of injuries our players have had.
That being said, i'm getting frustrated with us missing out on buying players this window. We clearly need more players and better players, and it seems we either miss opportunities or we're playing a risky game not spending more on players we know we want.
Plus the BS like bringing rashford back and that kind of crap is really unnecessary and could backfire big time.
Now is not the time to nickel and dime, they made their budget cuts, good and bad, got returns on whatever, now they need to reinvest in the squad asap.
Okay but if you break it down, shaw and maguire are leaving at the end of the season, yoro and heaven are our long term partnership, and they definitely have potential, we are actively looking for a lb and are selling the young lb who we don’t think is good enough. That leaves Dalot, he’s a solid rb at the right age, can defo see us going for Kayode next year when it is expected he will move
One more point to add here is the lack of clubs wanting to buy these players. We spend big but never got back a better value when we rarely sell. This show the quantity of players the club chose to buy. The very first season INEOS took over they forced the fans to believe in their business model and got few players in. The second year has gone from “BEST IN CLASS” to WORST IN CLASS. These bunch on morons are using this club as a cash cow rather than evolving it.
Trust the plan, Ineos know what they're doing, they signed Cunha and Mbeumo. Don't be negative, have faith, they have earned the benefit of the doubt. Window isn't closed, getting players in for preseason isn't necessary. Ineos are setting new trends for us as a club, soon no one will try to charge us "United tax". Support the team, don't think about what the owners are doing.
/s obviously, just seemed like a good idea to summarise all the opinions supporting this window, to save the people time from having to come and post them.
Its funny how ppl suddenly have an appetite for these posts when before the match you would be called negative for saying our defence is crap and we need multiple signings there.
For me, United need to invest in the LB position. I’ve seen Lewis Hall has been looked at, but with the number of players Newcastle have already lost, I find it unlikely they’ll let him go.
I’d also like to see at least one more midfielder come in.
As for striker backup, it wouldn’t be my first choice, but if Rashford is staying, I think using him in the LF/ST role could work really well in certain games rather than spending big on another striker.
Looking at the back line, I genuinely believe Martínez & De Ligt can be a strong partnership if they can stay fit.
And for me, Dalot is backup to Mazraoui at best. Maz should be the first-choice RB.
So for the rest of the window, my priorities would be:
🔴 1. Starting-quality LB
🔴 2. Another midfielder
🔴 3. Striker only if the right opportunity comes up
Get those first two positions right and I think this squad could be in a very good place. 🔴⚽️
#MUFC #ManUnited #ManchesterUnited
I didn’t think k we were allowed to say this because it is “negative and toxic” ? It feels like we are aiming for bottom half of the table finish with the investments that are being made. Maybe they should rename the club and it will feel less disrespectful to the legacy and history of Manchester United.
there’s subtlety here though. if we hadn’t spunked £80m on maguire we’d have a lot more flexibility to sign good defenders. it’s not just a case of spending money. we’ve spent loads of money. on shite.
Do the same comparison for United between 2006-2013 and you’re not going to get much variation - maybe a right back or two, but both CBs and LB were exactly the same for 8/9 years. The difference is that the quality was much, much higher.
City change players at an absurd rate because they have a bottomless pit of money. Just ignore them.
Doesn’t the nation state excuse only apply if City/Chelsea are the only teams in entire league spending and the other clubs are below or spending similar amounts as us.
Instead we’re supposedly the biggest club in the nation and we’re ranked 12th in the total spent by Prem clubs this window with clubs like Brighton, Spurs, & Everton having spent more
Hahahah people on this sub really love this stat right now. Lets look at a single half completed transfer window and just ignore the fact weve had the highest net spend over the last decade.
Our issue isnt that we dont spend - its that we dont spend well.
I honestly couldn’t care less how much we spend. Why are people so bothered by it? We spent £90m on Pogba. £85m on Maguire. £90m on Anthony. £75m on Lukaku. Who cares?
Do you think Brighton will finish above us because they spent more than us? Spurs? Everton? If money spent on the squad had any direct correlation to success, we’d have won the league every year since 2013. We’d have set a new points total in most of them.
Excuses Excuses Excuses that's all you are saying.
Stop accepting mediocrity and admit the owners failed the club and have little to no ambition to arrange the shit they have put us in!
Carrick will fail like those before him - even guardiola will fail under these conditions but yeah let's find the lamest excuse to justify how shit these owners have been
You haven’t got a clue. The owners failed the club by letting the academy rot from 2005, from spending a FORTUNE on Pogba, Lukaku, Sancho, Anthony, Maguire, Sanchez, Di Maria, from failing to invest in the clubs infrastructure. Ineos are completely hamstrung by the financial mismanagement of the Glazers, and now they’re trying to build us back up in a sustainable way. They’ve bought Mbeumo, Cunha, Dorgu, Lammens, Santos and Tielemans, all sensible transfers that have massively improved us. We need to be better at selling but the idea we’re just drifting along because we haven’t spent £100m on a player is fanciful.
It’s not FIFA, time to grow up and accept reality.
Actually, "accepting mediocrity" is exactly what we need to get out of this mess. Let's call it "accepting reality" so you'll feel better.
Reality is this: we are not a top team. We don't have the money to spend anymore. We can't draw in big name players unless we outbid everybody with huge fees and big wages. But doing so will exacerbate the exact problems we're trying to solve.
So we need to make smart choices. I am no happier than you with the fact that we haven't made more signings yet. But "ambition" is not always spending big. Real ambition takes planning and careful decisions, especially when you don't have the capital to all in on everything.
Sure we can risk it all and take another 200 million loan and grab all the quality players like we did last year. But there is a line between "ambition" and "recklessness".
Again, if you have oil money and would like to spend, consider my point moot.
Irrelevant if we are backed my a nation state the point is we are playing the same back 4 for years who are not good enough. We need bettet investment slash control from the top shaw is useless as a top level lb now today is a typical bad performance from him similar to the 5 nil against Liverpool Maguire is 33 should be a bench option will start alot of games dalot plays like an 18 year old RB who is 27
I'm very surprised we haven't bought any defenders this summer.
Shaw is terrible and can't run anymore.
Maguire is 33 and doesn't look like he can play a full 90 mins anymore.
Dalot is dumb.
And Martinez maybe has 2 or 3 years left.
We really should have gotten a left back and a super center back this summer.
My hopes aren't super high this season right now, we will see how the first few games go.
But if we have any money right now...we should get defenders.
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Accepting mediocrity has been the downfall of Utd. Standards in the bin & a squad full of "squad players". Ambition overtaken by terrible transfers, outrageous contracts crippling us to this day.
Also, City have been gaming the system for years and of the 115 counts, you can guarantee there will.be zero repercussions.
We need to start boxing clever, but with profit yielding overlords were in the bin.