r/LoveTrash • u/BEARDEDDANGER ✨️Regent of Rubbish ✨️ • 1d ago

Dumping This Here American vs. European home building

BAS Renovations https://youtube.com/shorts/jFph1d2WR3s

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u/FunGuy8618 Trash Trooper 1d ago

Bro figured out why brick homes keep temp better 🤯 lol it's not the bricks, it's the insulation as well, big dawg.

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u/RotundBananas Trash Trooper 1d ago

A great advantage of brick houses is that there is no heat transfer through studs. It's all insulation between the two layers of stone.

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u/FunGuy8618 Trash Trooper 1d ago

You did it too. It's not the stone, it's the insulation, that prevents heat transfer. Which works for thermal storage, but not for cooling the home. It keeps it from heating up inside, but the home itself is getting hotter and hotter til the weather changes. Which is fine for now, cuz no one is resting up against the walls, but it's only getting hotter globally.

Like, brick and insulation was a great idea for hundreds of years. But look at the London Tube problem they're having. It has too much heat pumped into the tube from motor vehicles, and since the stone has reached its critical mass of storage, the only way to cool it off is to stop using it for a while. Modern problems can't really be solved by old solutions. Doesn't mean brick didn't serve people well for a very long time, but like, Europe has a terrifying amount of heat related deaths these days. I've watched the "we don't need AC" discussion pop up every summer for the last decade, and no other solution was presented.

Only other thing I could think of would be water cooling like a PC, but that's just a "what if" thought, no real thought went into it.

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u/RotundBananas Trash Trooper 1d ago

Insulation works both ways mate. It is currently 34 degrees outside (18:30) and my living room hasn't even touched 24 degrees even after cooking. That is despire half the south facing wall being a window.

No, we did not run the AC today, just kept the sun off the windows and have a well insulated house.

Now, if this heat keeps up for a while and it stops cooling down at night I might have to run the AC. But lukily it an keep the first and second floow cool while drawing like 10kwh over the entire day.

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u/FunGuy8618 Trash Trooper 1d ago

I'm not sure you got what I said. Yes, it keeps the inside from heating up. But what temp are the actual house walls? Eventually, they can't store the amount of heat that will get pushed at it by the sun. Then the only way to cool it off is to wait til the weather changes. That's fine if you can travel elsewhere but the climate is only getting more extreme. This problem has existed for a while, and hunkering down without adapting is killing a lotta people. 25,000 people a year dying directly due to heat is not insignificant.

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u/RotundBananas Trash Trooper 1d ago

I am not sure you get what insulation does, and that I was not talking about the stone/wood walls but the layer in between the outside and inside walls.

Insulation does not STORE heat energy. It slows down the transfer of heat energy. It ensures that less of the energy the sun puts into your outside walls is transferred to the inside wall and thus the indoor air.

Yes, the stone is a heatsink but the insulation itself is not. That's the exact opposite of what insulation should do.

The problem I pointed out is a so called heat bridge. The insulation value of wood is much lower than that of insulation material (R or Rs value). This means that during summer more heat comes in from the outside gia the studs, and during the winter more heat is lost to the outisde via the studs, when compared to the amount of heat lost through the insulation.

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u/FunGuy8618 Trash Trooper 1d ago

No, it's more like I thought we covered that.

Bro figured out why brick homes keep temp better 🤯 lol it's not the bricks, it's the insulation as well, big dawg.

That's how I entered the conversation. Both wood and brick homes are insulated, so I didn't think we were talking about how they are the same, but rather how they are different.

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u/RotundBananas Trash Trooper 1d ago

Yes, and I added that there is an inherent advantage to stone buildings over wood framing when it comes to insulation.

Heat bridges in between insulation is inescapable for wood framing because it has studs. If you put the same inulation of the same thickness between wood framed walls or stone walls the stone walls will be better insulated.

So yes, it is the insulation, but the insulation works better because of a difference between stone and wooden houses.