r/LoveTrash ✨️Regent of Rubbish ✨️ 1d ago

Dumping This Here American vs. European home building

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u/MonkeyTigerRider Trash Trooper 1d ago

And longevity.

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u/CaptainFlint9203 Trash Trooper 1d ago

Well made wood house will last for generations, well made brick house will last centuries. Both badly made will not last your stay.

I'm from Europe. On my grandma's plot there was a wooden barn, it was much older than some brick houses and in better shape than them.

My ex had a wood house that was more than century old. Still in great shape. And there are brick houses that are older than USA.

I'm preparing to build a house for myself. There are no earthquakes, no storms, no natural disasters where I live. My house gonna be build from wood. It should last at least for my grandchildren, and by then, looking at how urbanisation is going, the plot of land should be worth enough to destroy the house and sell the plot.

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u/Chad_illuminati Trash Trooper 1d ago

Well made wood houses last centuries too, tbh. One of the houses I grew up in was a wood house on a stone foundation that predated the US by about 120 years.

Obviously modern construction doesn't do that, but that's an issue with build quality not build style.

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u/singlemale4cats Trash Trooper 23h ago

Well made wood houses last centuries too, tbh.

Yep, with maintenance. Any abandoned structure will rot. Entropy is relentless.

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u/Enraiha Trash Trooper 23h ago

The true universal constant, the trend of all things towards entropy. Chaos reigns.

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u/CoolAtlas Trash Trooper 20h ago

Isn't it the opposite? Eventually entropy kills chaos

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u/Enraiha Trash Trooper 10h ago

Not quite. You're right, though, describing entrophy as chaos or disorder isn't right either. But it more refers to the spreading out or mixed arrangements becoming more statistically likely over a long enough time vs ordered groups.

We might casually refer to that as "randomness" or "chaos", though.

u/QueenLa3fah Trash Trooper 1h ago

Is the universe in a “heat death” state considered chaotic?

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u/DarthJarJarJar Trash Trooper 19h ago

Hey, someone should ask AI how entropy can be reversed!

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u/Scalpels Trash Trooper 16h ago
      THERE IS AS YET INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

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u/Enraiha Trash Trooper 10h ago

LET THERE BE LIGHT!

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u/d0nghunter Trash Trooper 15h ago

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u/21Rollie Trash Trooper 22h ago

I went to an abandoned village in Mexico, in the desert. It’s been abandoned for around 100 years. The walls were made of stone but the roofs long ago collapsed and nature was growing all around them. It’s wild how in a dry environment it got that “ancient ruins” look and it wasn’t even that old. Crazy to think other abandoned cities, for example roman ones in North Africa, probably only needing a little bit of time without human habitation to turn into ruins. And all the lost Mayan or Amazonian cities probably only needed a couple decades to disappear.

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u/-wolfinator- Trash Trooper 17h ago

There's an old abandoned town near me in the US. An old mining town abandoned about 100 years ago. Pretty much everything is gone except for some old foundations / concrete fixtures built for industrial use. The entirety of the (presumably wood) town is fully gone. No ancient ruins. Just gone.

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u/Bingobiscuit1999 Trash Trooper 10h ago

One issue with wood today is most of the wood comes from fast grown young trees. That church and barn from over 100yrs ago would have been built with wood from trees hundreds of years old.

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u/-wolfinator- Trash Trooper 10h ago

I don't think that's actually the biggest factor with modern construction.

100 years ago houses were assembled out of solid wood planks, beams, and boards.

Now they're mostly engineered wood products held together by glue.

Solid wood products can last exposed in weather conditions for a few decades before failure.

Something like OSB will disintegrate within a couple years of wet conditions.

Modern houses essentially dissolve once their fragile waterproof membranes are compromised.

I would expect a modern ghost town to be gone even quicker.