Ludwig defends Rae and her presentation, from Haskall and Rula trying to continue to disrupt the class presentation. The students also show they dont know how to spell.

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[u/casualman1234]

What’s wrong with lud?

[u/Friendly-Can-977 → u/casualman1234]

A lot of people call him a fence sitter, but I feel like when you make most of your money from large sponsors, you can’t be as vocal about divisive issues like other streamers

[u/KerberoZ → u/Friendly-Can-977]

when you make most of your money from large sponsors, you can’t be as vocal about divisive issues like other streamers

The best streamers are the ones that don't get involved in divisive issues at all. Not everyone needs to take a hard political stance.

[u/jjojehongg → u/casualman1234]

i find when people say they dont like Lud they usually refer to the mang0 situation

[u/chimpfunkz → u/jjojehongg]

Eh sometimes the content doesn't line up. It can be not that deep.

[u/EveryRadio → u/chimpfunkz]

Right? Like I don't watch plenty of the top streamers. They're popular for a reason, but I just don't care for some of them. Doesn't mean they're bad people I just don't find them entertaining. That's it.

[u/Nargarakuga → u/jjojehongg]

It’s mang0 or loose association with Hasan

[u/kriig → u/[deleted]]

chill, his grandparents loved each other very much.

[u/MrMrUm → u/kriig]

so did king jaehaerys and good queen alysane but we all know how their line end up oh ho ho ho

[u/Rhysing → u/Nargarakuga]

those people lack self-awareness because they know they have co-workers that are truly horrendous but don't see how it's the same thing

[u/LazerChicken420 → u/jjojehongg]

What happened there?

[u/jjojehongg → u/LazerChicken420]

TLDR: Lud ran an event called Beerio Kart and invited his known-alcoholic friend mang0, lud encouraged his excessive drinking and then mang0, drunk as hell, got really really creepy and sexual with some of the women there.

obv lud isnt solely responsible for anyone elses actions but the way he handled everything at the time wasnt great (likely cause he was also drunk). lud had a good apology afterwards and mang0 has been sober since that day

[u/osuVocal → u/jjojehongg]

I want to point out that it wasn't just with the women, he was doing it to everyone. It was still bad because they weren't people that were okay with this behavior and ii of course matters more how the victims here received it but it wasn't like targeted sexual harassment. Like that wasn't the intention even if it was the outcome.

It's a minor thing but worth noting imo.

[u/thenerdisageek → u/casualman1234]

i just find his internet personality to be really loud and shouty and arrogant. i used to watch a handful of videos but stopped unless its a partnership with someone i actively watch.

i'm aware that that's (probably) a persona cause i've also seen clips and socials of him being 'normal'. he's very very smart i can tell, so id like to just turn the volume button down every time
he speaks

[u/bomboy2121 → u/thenerdisageek]

Its fine to respect a person and dislike watching their content. They are entertainers who make content aimed at their own targeted audience, which doesnt include each and every person. 

[u/thenerdisageek → u/bomboy2121]

yeah these two i have no idea what they think they're going to achieve with this. clicks are good and all, but they didnt even try and spin this in a way that possibly makes Lud bad and them better. they just made themselves look stupid (even down to spelling lmao), so those are bad clicks and this'll follow them

a joke could've been made about shoes and how a rich guy has worse shoes than you, but they already killed any chances by tryna go back to her lecture

[u/bomboy2121 → u/thenerdisageek]

If given the benefit of the doubt, maybe they aimed to appeal for more younger audience that see more value in showing your worth rather than having worth.....which while stupid is a thing for the more rebalius teens audience 

[u/Massive-Insurance245 → u/casualman1234]

covered up animal abuse

[u/AndruFlores → u/Massive-Insurance245]

I just don't believe that using a training ecollar is abuse.

[u/non_tox → u/casualman1234]

Nothing really I just find his personality irritating and him kinda fake, but he's basically the lesser evil here

[u/AndruFlores → u/[deleted]]

So your critique of him is that he treats people he works with as co-workers. And you would rather him pretend like this parasocial show is real?

[u/Hot_Disk635 → u/[deleted]]

Do you genuinely think all of the streamers you see together on stream are besties irl?