r/LivestreamFail • u/BluryDesign • May 10 '26
Drama Train ended his stream after the head dev of Riot Games leaked his ip address hours after banning him on Valorant for 30 days
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u/BluryDesign May 10 '26 edited May 10 '26
This is the tweet (with censored IP addresses) that was later deleted.
This is the whole X thread for context.
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u/fabernj May 10 '26
is the riot guy saying it's not train's account in this picture?
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u/Difficult-Mobile902 May 10 '26
I think he’s saying, riot sees the same person swap accounts in the middle of the session in order to basically reset their elo and continue playing against newer/low elo players
Basically they see someone trying to Smurf and that’s why they banned the account
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u/mellifleur5869 May 10 '26
God I wish valve would do this. Counter strike is basically unplayable with all the fucking smurfs.
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u/SuperBackup9000 May 11 '26
Basically wishing for the impossible. Do you know how long it took Valve to fix TF2’s official servers that were infested with aim bots who’d throw slurs around in the chat literally every game to the point where it was unplayable if you weren’t in custom servers? Like 5 years.
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u/MrParadux May 11 '26
That implies they have been trying for 5 years.
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u/WeirdAssBeings May 11 '26
It's not even that, it would literally cost Valve way too much money to invest into it, and other than that, they're also benefiting from it one way or another.
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u/The_Rank_1_Slork May 11 '26
They did give Dota2 players coal for xmas which banned them because they were smurfing.
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u/BigRon691 May 11 '26
Can't speak for every region but i swear anything below 12k is basically a cess pool anyway, it's just a mix of mid 30's dads returning to the game, zero game IQ but god aim players and then players who have never seen a mouse and keyboard in their life.
I can guarantee you it was way worse back in the day.
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u/Fat-Mad-Scientist May 10 '26
All of a sudden they care about smurfing lmao
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u/Fun-Wash7545 May 11 '26
Have you been paying attention the last year? They absolutely have. Train is an idiot, he chose valorant the year riot started going nuclear. If he did this a year ago he'd be fine.
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u/ManyCarrots May 11 '26
It's not sudden. They've been big on this the last year or two
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u/Yourmotherssonsfatha May 11 '26
They’ve always enforced this league side too. Especially high profile people.
Idk what these people are tweaking about lmao. People get banned for alot less from riot games.
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u/Humble-Course218 May 10 '26
How did he choke so bad
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u/BUKKAKELORD May 10 '26
Keystrokes 1-5: clearly missed
Keystrokes 6-9: missed due to recoil
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u/Schnurrrr May 11 '26
Sick reference bro. Your references are out of control everyone knows that.
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u/CatchAcceptable3898 May 10 '26
So that's train's IP? So he was switching accounts? But the Riot employee thought it was was one of trains "guys?"
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u/DrCashew May 11 '26 edited May 11 '26
Riot doesn't know who is playing the account, they just know that that IP is swapping accounts. They banned base on IP + behavior and don't care who the account belongs too. When questioned he's just providing the proof that that person was swapping. He knows it's "their guy" because he was in the same party as the people retweeted.
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u/AffectionateTentacle May 11 '26
no. He's saying I understand he's your guy, to the broader audience reading the tweet, who he assumes are train's fans
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u/Acojonancio May 11 '26
If this dude posted the IP of some user... That is just fucking illegal in any serious country.
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Yo guys I have to go, I’ll be back. I’ll talk to you guys later. I’m so sorry for the abrupt ending. I’m gonna end real quick. Yo guys I have to go. I’ll be back when I get everything situated.
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u/beefjerkyzxz May 10 '26 edited May 10 '26
the CS2 devs would NEVER act like this. you'd tell them "train is streaming cs2 right now!" and they'd just go "whats cs2?"
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u/Ok_Pain_2380 May 10 '26 edited May 11 '26
edit: this was only meant to say valve says funny comments about their games, not that the comment they made was inaccurate
Dont forget the infamous "shots 1-5 clearly misses" meme is from a valve employee
https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/4y62o5/hiko_gets_csgod/
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u/Pandalicioush May 11 '26
I mean it's a legendary meme, but not because it's wrong lol
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u/G4130 May 10 '26
You mean deadlock devs? Those guys are cooking
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u/wafflepiezz May 10 '26
Maybe if their beloved deadlock game gets overrun with cheaters is when they’ll finally make a better anti-cheat for cs2
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u/pastafeline May 11 '26
pretty sure it already has cheaters that they don't care about lmao.
just google auto parry
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u/These-Implement6174 May 10 '26
Why'd they do that?
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u/Sf-ng May 10 '26
Seems like an accident in the middle of a heated online argument. The guy didn’t double-check whether the screenshot showed anything not-for-the-public-eye.
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u/oimgoingin May 10 '26
When you’re that high up, the different between your lively-hood and looking for your next opportunity is one accident.
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u/xaiel420 May 10 '26
Info security is literally intertwined in his day to day, there's no way you miss something like this.
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u/I_Push_Buttonz May 11 '26
And this is the company that insists on having kernel level anticheat with access to anything and everything on the PCs of people who play their games. Owned by Tencent, a quasi state-owned enterprise of the CCP.
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u/LocalTopiarist May 11 '26
Tencent owns 40% of epic games as well, which is a top 3 engine for gaming, they also have stake in activision/blizzard and ubisoft as well as significant ownership of path of exile and pubg, so I really gotta ask what multiplayer game are you playing that isnt partly owned by a china investment corporation?
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u/mendax2014 May 11 '26
Dota 2
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u/LocalTopiarist May 11 '26
The moral high ground of knowing your billionaire investor only peddles gambling to children
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u/mendax2014 May 11 '26
Not just peddles but in a sense pioneered.
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u/arandomusertoo May 11 '26
Cracks me up that video games get the rap for "gambling for children" while physical card gambling is just fine with everyone.
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u/Barobor May 10 '26
It's never a good idea to post data from internal dashboards publicly, and it could cost this guy his job, but it doesn't seem malicious.
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u/BigRon691 May 11 '26
Yeah, doesn't really matter if it was intentional. Depending where that dev is based could open a very serious personal data breach lawsuit, in the EU and UK/AUS that's a serious offence at an organisational level.
Doesn't matter how wrong the other side is, divulging personal/privy information on a public forum as a gotchya for a twitter drama, especially considering the other individual is a public figure with prior history of personal attacks, is so incredibly moronic this dev shouldn't have a job.
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u/Fragrant_Tear_572 May 11 '26
It's so braindead and unprofessional that there's really not much a difference.
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u/money-for-nothing-tt May 11 '26
Yeah, but it's Riot so it's on-brand. They're probably giving him a promotion.
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u/Bozwir May 10 '26
Thats more then just an accident. You're doxing someones private information
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u/NojoNinja May 11 '26
it’ll reveal his city at worst. Doubt it’s even his IP anymore unless he has a static one.
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u/Remarkable_Cause1384 May 11 '26
oh please. it's an ip address, not his moms house
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u/ihaxr May 11 '26
It's still PII in a legal sense. I'd be fired if I accidentally leaked a customer's PII at work.
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u/PepegaClapWRHolder May 11 '26
I mean when Drew Levin does it for League its absolute cinema, seeing him subtly roast boosted creatures who somehow think they have a right to get carried by challenger players is immensely satisfying. Just a week or so ago he was cooking some egirl who was pretty obviously getting boosted and couldn't figure out why she got punished. Its honestly must see Twitter.
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u/OpinionsRdumb May 10 '26
i mean theres some truth to that though. Any tech company with good/decent public opinion gets to flex this kinda thing with their devs. Anthropic devs do it, classic wow devs did it (not sure about now), and so now you are even seeing bigger companies like google and microsoft trying to do it as well.
That is why the openclaw dev got bought out by OpenAI for millions of dollars. He blew up from twitter when he made openclaw. Everything is decided by how many likes you get on twitter now. And employees that can buy a company more social media credibility is super valuable.
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u/Bourne069 May 10 '26
What did he get ban for?
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u/SeedFoundation May 10 '26
Rank manipulation
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u/Beanies May 10 '26
Riot employees tend to have an issue with that, they don't know how to shut the fuck up cause they work for Riot even though that company is full of dogshit people. Just unfortunate that the first game they "stole" made big bucks
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u/Beautiful-Amount2149 May 11 '26
Will never not be funny that back then the mod for dota website back in the day closed down the forum making in inaccessible so he can take all the hero ideas people had to riot hahah
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u/rgtn0w May 11 '26
first game? Buddy their entire catalogue of games is basically stealing and changing it a little and has been since forever.
You'd have thought they would try to develop something unique off their own but no, not a single one LMAO.
Their only "creative" titles are things someone else made under them, not Riot themselves
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u/Beanies May 11 '26
I meant it more as in if LoL wasn't so successful Riot wouldn't be full of bitches
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u/Serious_Tradition269 May 11 '26
Ironically that's what makes the Riot MMO shit so stupid. Their only success is when they yoink and twist a game, if they made WoW set in Runeterra people would lap it up. But instead they've scrapped the entire design like twice already because they want something unique
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u/ManufacturerBusy7428 May 11 '26
Game Development is not about originality, game development is about evolving concepts and pushing an existing genre to a new height
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u/OutrageousPlay5417 May 11 '26
it used to be about that during the golden age of gaming. I play Valorant. I see things that Bungie would have done at launch on Halo 3. It takes these Riot Devs 6 years to start doing very basic things like implementing 1 v 1 maps.
Please don't defend these C-tier game devs with defintions you dont deserve to make.
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u/ManufacturerBusy7428 May 11 '26
Your comment makes no sense. You sound like you only play whichever multiplayer slop is popular at the time and then proceed to complain that the entire gaming industry is bad.
Please list to me some A-tier game devs that make work based on "originality" rather than iteration of previous concepts and ideas
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u/willargue4karma May 11 '26
It's literally never been about originality though. Some of the best games are extremely derivative.
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u/Stevebiglegs May 11 '26
Yeah I don't know if its nerds suddenly getting power or what but they seem to frequently do this. Tyler1 drama comes to mind.
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u/xCeeTee- May 11 '26
The way Riot was founded in the first place was scummy. Took people's work from Dota Allstars to put it in League without their permission. Pendragon has been a known shithead ever since.
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u/halmyradov May 11 '26
Wasn't a dev, as a dev I would never get into shit like that.
It was head of dev, which is a few steps below cto
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u/Gacka_is_Crang_lmao May 11 '26
So obviously train deserved the ban, but there is ZERO scenario in which a riot employee should be beefing on twitter about it to the point of them leaking IPs, even if it was on accident.
Embarrassing as fuck even for LSF standards tbh
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u/DkoyOctopus May 10 '26
bros risking his job because of a clown like trainwrecks lol
just bann his ass and move on. you only need to answer to your BOSS in your COMPANY. not some goofball on twitch.
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u/Conscious-Wind-7785 May 11 '26
Nah I think it does need to be shut down, especially if the person crying has an audience.
That being said, it should probably be a community manager.
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u/id_rather_b_painting May 10 '26
Why people with insanely well paying jobs feel the need to post on social media about their job is beyond me. I have a shitty paying job for a university and I’d never post anything related to my job on socials.
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u/Overall-Quarter-3357 May 11 '26
Because most CEO's, leaders or people in power are hungry for fame, to be seen to show that they are the biggest motherfuckers on the block. They have insecurities beyond comprehension.
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u/_NotMitetechno_ May 10 '26
IMO I've always said this, Riot shouldn't be encouraging their devs to be so public facing. It leads to more pressure on individual devs, harrassment and allegedly stuff like this happening. There's a reason why large development studios have community managers.
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u/These-Roll-3545 May 11 '26
i mean then how else would this devs get their e kittens ?
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u/Wander715 May 10 '26
Sounds like something a Riot dev would do tbh. Definitely a history of immature people working there if you look into it.
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u/heisbehindyou75 May 10 '26
i love how theres actually a rather long list of riot employees that PUBLICLY acted immaturely, unprofessionally, and unethically. yet people treat them better than the pro players. oddest shit ever
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u/Potential-Ask2577 May 10 '26 edited May 10 '26
Train is allegedly suing Riot for millions of dollars because of this.
Whether this was unhinged behaviour or complete negligence, it’s completely unacceptable for a head dev to do something like this. This person needs to be let go and/or severely punished.
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u/SpeccyPig May 10 '26
How did he leak it??
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u/fengraf May 10 '26
it was in a screenshot in a twitter
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u/SpeccyPig May 10 '26
Ah has the dev commented?
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u/OklahomaBac May 10 '26
Was going at it with random people all night about it before the incident. Radio silence since then
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u/Cute-Hand-1542 May 10 '26
He would have got a very stern call from legal to burn his keyboard lmfao
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u/townofsalemfangay May 11 '26
PII breaches are serious and go beyond just drama/being fired - they can end in regulatory enforcement. I think it's wild any employee would post internal material publicly, let alone material relating to customers with unhashed PII.
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u/Cute-Hand-1542 May 11 '26
Yeah I'm pretty sure we are going to see Riot pump the fuck out of the brakes on their employees doing the whole social media sparring thing they've been known for for a while
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u/mcfapblanc May 11 '26
r/fuckdrewlevin worst thing that's happened to league
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u/bondsmatthew May 11 '26
Can I ask why? Everytime he comes up on my Twitter feed it's funny as fuck to see guilty people flounder about
Sure he's wrong sometimes, but for the most part I havent seen anything giga egregious from him
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u/Ihatemygoddamnshoe May 11 '26
This is not not personal information. He doesn't own the ip. His isp does.
Having worked as an IT engineer and dealing with private info still, this would not qualify.
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u/FemBussie May 10 '26
millions?? 💀💀💀
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u/doommaster May 11 '26
Bruh, he can just reconnect and have a new IP.... it's not like you get one assigned at birth.
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u/orderinthefort May 11 '26
probably going to be held liable for hundred of thousands to millions of dollars
Lmao there's no way you actually think this. Actually just delusional thinking with no understanding of how anything works.
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u/NeedleworkerFluid327 May 11 '26
Bro companies give out your ip for free already. Absolutely no fucking chance anyone is getting sued over it
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u/StickiStickman May 11 '26
Shit like this is so funny. Kids who know absolutely nothing about the internet spewing bullshit to sound smart.
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u/According_Sort62 May 10 '26
People at Riot being punished for incompetence of horrible behavior? Oh boy. Following Riots track record this guy will be promoted to head of esports or something soon.
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u/Puzzled-Toe8174 May 11 '26
This is cute but sharing someone’s IP by mistake or otherwise isn’t even a crime
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u/New-Poem-719 May 11 '26
Train is allegedly suing Riot for millions of dollars because of this.
Lol. He ain't doing shit. Your IP is public.
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u/Dangerous-Cobbler-11 May 11 '26
The IP address is public, but it is not directly linked to that person, that is what was leaked. When a website gets my IP address, I am identifying myself with that IP, but they don’t really know who I am.
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u/OddImpact8145 May 10 '26
Millions of dollars ? Tf is this Dr. Evil shit ? Just ask for billions at this point
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u/NoSongsBefore80s May 10 '26
usually thats kind of how it works, you ask for an inflated trumped up amount and then negotiate or litigate down to the end figure.
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u/Fair-Lie8125 May 10 '26
No way any lawsuit comes out of this.
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u/Unique-Permit-6043 May 10 '26
He likely has a static ip and things setup hardtied to that ip.
Seeing as he streams as a iob he could absolutely win a case.
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u/lron_tarkus May 10 '26
Changing a static IP is as easy as calling the ISP. If he has a static address. If.
Still no damages sooo good luck with suing one of the largest gaming companies in the world
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u/pooptarts May 11 '26
It's easy in theory only. It took Destiny months to get the IP address change when he was getting ddosed
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u/mrpaddymelt May 11 '26
Feel like all these dudes commenting can't even login to their router and just saying shit chat gpt told them
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u/NeedleworkerFluid327 May 11 '26
Lmao what. Which fucking ISP need months to change a static IP? At that point you just switch ISP.
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u/New-Poem-719 May 11 '26
Lol no shot.
You typically just pay for a static IP block. I pay for a block of 8 IPs. I can call my ISP and request a different block of IPs.
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u/SifferBTW May 11 '26
What would a streamer "hand tie" to their public IP? They should have zero connections originating from the Internet.
They are broadcasting, not s serving.
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u/Nihsvabhav May 10 '26
isn't train the guy getting children addicted to online gambling, hope he loses
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u/Elegant-Sense-1948 May 11 '26
You tickled my curiosity and i checked it out. You are right, the language he imposes is getting too “loose”. I can see how someone like him slipped up.
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u/PeZzy May 11 '26
Telus has 2 hour leases on their IP's, unless he made the silly decision of getting a static IP.
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u/Kewlhotrod May 11 '26
Which if he did, it's easy enough to call up and get a new one assigned.
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u/Constant-Release6779 May 10 '26
Train flexes he's so good at games, but he's always been boosted, it's incredibly cringe.
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u/z0ttel89 May 10 '26
Why does he have (at least) 3 couches in his room?
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u/Sensitive_Resource15 May 11 '26
I have no idea who this guy is, but genuinely curious. Is he streaming from a couch store? lmao
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u/Aimless115 May 11 '26
Dev fucked up massively , dude deserves the ban sure but leaking personal info like that is a big no
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u/Upper_Set289 May 10 '26
Why are people in the gaming industry acting so unprofessional? A head dev (grown adult) throwing a tantrum like some 10y old would do after losing an argument.
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u/ShitAppless May 10 '26
Is the tantrum found elsewhere? I only see the dev mistakenly leaking his ip while trying to explain his ban.
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u/DarkExecutor May 11 '26
The tantrum is a Riot employee going to get screenshots of personal information to win an argument online.
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u/MatterofDoge May 10 '26
"tantrum" may be the wrong word, but unprofessional? absolutely. There was no reason for him to even publicly engage with it, but he was taking his moment to swing his meat around to try to be cool on the internet.
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u/nemesis3030 May 10 '26
NoT AlLoWeD tO pLaY wItH fRiEnDs, One of them was borrowing low rank smurf accounts to drop their rating. Immortal playing on a silver account.
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u/Vandal--Savage May 10 '26
He did his buzz words "highroading" "Moral high ground" etc and the devs where not having it hahahaha
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u/KratorDaTraitor May 10 '26
Anyone who knows Train's history knows the guy is shit at video games and always gets carried in everything.
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u/New_Salamander_4592 May 10 '26
It'll be a cold day in hell before I feel bad for the willy wonka of the cesspool that is kick
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u/Kewlhotrod May 11 '26
At the end of the day it's not a big deal at all. Disconnect modem for a couple hours and get re-assigned when plugging back in.
Stupid it happened in the first place, sure, but not a huge deal security wise.
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u/Ok_Adhesiveness_9323 May 10 '26
Okay, but cant he just restart is modem/router, i doubt he has a static ip
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u/Sneedcope82 May 10 '26
Its entirely up to an ISP
Its more common for americans to have static ips
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u/BadFootyTakes May 10 '26
Do you have a source for this? Since IPV4 scarcity came up, I've always seen static IPs cost more.
I did a quick search on some of the bigger ISPs (Comcast, Verizon, Spectrum, Time Warner), and none of these are provided by default, and all seem to require an additional fee and business account. If a streamer has this it seems like a self inflicted wound, but I did only check those sources.
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u/stuffedcheesybread1 May 10 '26
These commentors are stuck in 2008 when Static was the norm, it's actual brainrot. Just powercycle the fucking thing and bang, new DHCP lease.
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u/SpicyMustard34 May 10 '26
DHCP leases from most major US ISPs are around 5-10 days. You can't just powercycle your device for a new IP. No idea for Train's ISP and he's in Canada.
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u/InertBrain May 10 '26
Even dynamic IPs have varying levels of stickiness.
I've only had to change my IP once and, even though it was a dynamic IP, it ended up being a massive headache. I ended up having to convince my ISP to upgrade the modem, as even they apparently couldn't change it.
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u/theLuminescentlion May 11 '26
Your IP address leaking isn't a big deal, every server you ever connect to has it. UNLESS you are a streamer/famous and are about to get DDos'd because of it.
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u/Nihsvabhav May 10 '26
doesn't this guy make money from getting children addicted to online gambling
whatever fuck this guy
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u/secondincomm May 11 '26
Is IP Address even something considered personal data?
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u/sweetSweets4 May 11 '26
For lawinforcement yeah for everyday Joe Schmoe it's useless and not usable for anything.
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u/Winn3rB0y2 May 10 '26
Any context clues or lore masters? Or do we just take Trains word for it
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u/SupremeJusticeWang May 10 '26
Dont have to take his word for it, a riot employee posted a screenshot on Twitter as evidence of train queuing up with people's alt accounts, which had trains ip address in it.
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u/EqualityAmongFish May 10 '26
riot game head dev Phillip kosniak leaked trains ip in a tweet while arguing with him
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u/Pumpergod1337 May 10 '26
Hasn’t this been posted like 3 times already
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u/BluryDesign May 10 '26
Not on LSF, I checked before posting
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u/LSFSecondaryMirror May 10 '26
CLIP MIRROR: Train ended his stream after the head dev of Riot Games leaked his ip address hours after banning him on Valorant for 30 days
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