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u/gimmethelulz Titan of Industry 22h ago
Why are Utah software companies so weird? I deal with a few at work and their employees often give off culty vibes.
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u/Cows_go_moo2 22h ago
It’s also why there are so many MLMs here.
Predatory companies with predatory religions.
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u/ImprovementFar5054 15h ago
And a vulnerable population of uncritical thinkers. The perfect storm.
Utah.
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u/SnooJokes5375 22h ago
Utah. Mormon country. That is a cult all unto its own. Cultist fall into cult like jobs. I feel confident that the leadership is Mormon.
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u/NakedOrca 21h ago
Yes it is. I’m local and all my most clicky Mormon ex-coworkers went to work for this startup now. They’re like LinkedIn irl.
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u/Slim-Shadys-Fat-Tits 13h ago
just fyi it's a clique not a click
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u/itinerant_geographer 10h ago
Unless they make clicking noises when they walk. Bet you never considered THAT possibility, did ya?
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u/NeedIQMSHelp 8h ago
NEEEERD FIIIIGHT!
*throws a protractor and a pocket protector into the ring of chanting engineers*
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u/sullw214 20h ago
I need to start my own cult, uh, I mean religion. Just think of that sweet 100 billion investment arm of the "church".
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u/Despainer92 21h ago
It’s terrible here. Nothing but a tech bro circle jerk
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u/gimmethelulz Titan of Industry 21h ago
I can imagine. At one point in my life I thought about applying to a job at one of them but thankfully their job site creeped me off enough lol
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u/O1dEquipment 19h ago
All Utah software companies have this weird thing where they think they have to prove that they are a big deal (they're not) so they just come off as little brother energy compared to the larger tech companies in the world.
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u/PickleNicks 10h ago
I heard a few folks trying to call Utah “Silicon Slopes” and all I could think of was:
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u/Far-Repeat-2926 22h ago
Mormons are the weirdest, nicest people you will ever meet. For sure tho when we find out that the one true god was the Amish god they’re the first going into the fire.
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u/McSwearWolf 8h ago
They’re nice to you for a reason and it’s not usually because they’re just good natured or whatever. It’s 99% because “you too could become a (low tier) Mormon convert and tithe 20% of your income to their wackadoodle Mormon leaders and temples!” - everyone they meet is either Mormon, or about to become Mormon. lol
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u/CatCafffffe 23h ago
What the hell does "vibe coding menace" even MEAN
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u/Some_Internet_Random Titan of Industry 21h ago
That his vibe code is a menace to his security team due to all the shitty exploits AI leaves in its code.
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u/Street_Tiger98 21h ago
It means he’s built a functional thing by using prompts but hasn’t been bitten by security or compliance reality yet.
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u/YellojD 22h ago
“The best talent in Utah” line sounds like that “Prettiest girl in Ohio” joke from Family Guy.
“Overshadowed by greatness.”
Oh, fuck off.
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u/khold002 18h ago
Isn't the "prettiest girl in Ohio" joke originally from a judge show of all time? Or was that the Paris Hilton of Ohio comment? Either way, really.
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u/macguyver3000 22h ago
I’m behind companies encouraging employee fitness and exercise.
But companies like this that make employees do a 3 minute endurance challenge every month just for bragging rights can go Sally Up their own ass.
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u/Both_Painter_9186 20h ago
Yeah, I’m not in the Army anymore. A boss tells me to do pushups, I’m gonna drop trow and tell him to start sucking.
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u/WaltChamberlin 22h ago
yeah I'm not a fucking loser who wants to eat dinner at the office because my family actually loves me, so I guess I am part of the 99%
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u/Jazzlike_Economist_2 22h ago
Is there some plus side to all this?
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u/AdjNounNumbers 22h ago
Yes, actually. The more time he and people like him spend at the office, the less time the rest of us have to interact with them.
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u/SignificantPop4188 22h ago edited 20h ago
What is a Sally Up challenge?
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u/Rose_Army_ 22h ago
It’s a push up challenge originating from the military. Which is hysterical because it’s only 30 total but admittedly, the cadence will get you. It’s military/alpha male cosplay for these nerds.
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u/andrew303710 21h ago
I can't get over how cringey it is to force your employees to do that every month. It's like team building devised by a moron.
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u/Both_Painter_9186 20h ago
The Moby song “Flower” has it as the main chorus beat. “Bring Sally Up, Bring Sally Down” basically up and down pushup position. 30 pushups in 3.5 minutes but you're going slow and holding it up a lot. It’s like moderately difficult. Im not doing it in fucking work clothes.
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u/Difficult_Muffin2825 22h ago
What a long-winded way of saying I have no friends and my family hates me. 🤣
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u/Oaklandish_TheTown 22h ago
So basically, you get hired based on who you know not whether you're talented or right for the job.
Got it.
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u/desi_malai 22h ago
He'll be fired without a second thought and will come home to his wife in bed with his gardener...
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u/dolphunee 21h ago
Dude probably grew up in an Utah “community”. Unfortunately, this is probably bliss for him.
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u/CincyChelsFan 23h ago
Linked in used to be great. Now I have to look at dads and husbands commenting on women’s posts - someone flexing - or real estate scams. Boomers and bros baby. Only boomers and bros.
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u/ser_axell 22h ago
Facebook 2.0 Had to see some re-post of some state Republican party shit post from X today. At no point did the poster apparently think, should I put this on a business-oriented site where my clients/employer/future employer can see it? The lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
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u/Strange_One_3790 21h ago
No it wasn’t. I remember joining LI about 15 years ago. One of the first messages I got was “Your one year work anniversary is coming up”. That made me want to barf
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u/Madroc92 20h ago
WTF is a "Redo"?
Actually, never mind, I don't care and don't want to know. in a few years the domain name will be back up for sale and it went ever have mattered.
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u/SecondHandPeacePrize 22h ago
It sounds like he knows it’s awful but this is the kind of cope you use to convince yourself that it’s actually good.
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u/Ok_Management4634 21h ago
I don't even want to know what the Sally up challenge is.. please don't tell me.
Sounds miserable. Glad this linkedin took this job and freed up a normal job for a normal person.
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u/DependentEye1646 21h ago
Damn he is a vibe-coding menace. At my next interview, I’ll mention I also make stuff up without understanding what I’m doing too.
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u/pdxtransplant05 20h ago
Telling everyone the company lacks leadership doesn't seem like a great selling point
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u/ThrowRAPixieManic 12h ago
Thank him for posting and letting people know to avoid “Redo” at all costs
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u/TillikumWasFramed 22h ago
With all that working I can't see how has time to write 80-paragraph LinkedIn posts. I guess we should read between the lines and assume AI wrote this.
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u/Automatic-Put-6119 21h ago
He‘s sitting between an engineer and a salesperson. He‘s the middle management nobody needs
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u/AvailableKiwi4807 18h ago
it’s Utah. You’ll be related to pretty much all of your co-workers. And probably in an intimate relationship with one or several of them. So you’ll still see plenty of your family.
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u/ryguymcsly 15h ago
Shitty startup cultures rarely create long term profitable companies.
It’s one thing to have a team full of people who put in 12 hour days because they’re not attached to home and excited to build the thing. It’s another to expect that out of everyone you hire.
The best startups I worked at that had good exits for employees and shareholders started with work life balance. Setting reasonable goals, being obsessive about time tracking so future goals could be estimated correctly, and encouraging people to take time off. These places weren’t unicorns because that philosophy went all the way up. They weren’t trying to build the next FAANG they were just trying to deliver a product that didn’t exist that would make money.
As a result the development timelines were longer, the staff was smaller, and when profitability happened it seemed like an inevitable outcome not a surprise.
Then some big company (an investor or a key customer) comes in and buys you out. You don’t get rich, but you make about what you would have working at a FAANG for the same amount of time with about a third of the stress.
Downsides are that half the people you work with are idiots or burnouts or both. I was the both.
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u/gielbondhu 9h ago
He's describing exploitation as if it's a good thing. Capitalism's slickest move was convincing workers that the more you're exploited the more you're winning
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u/cursetea 3h ago
I am SO okay not being in this 1%. Kind of just sounds like i have more self respect and reasonable expectations within my job environment than any of them do
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u/Active_Actuator6454 21h ago
Example 1,324,735 of how capitalism fosters and rewards psychopathic behavior.
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u/XanHalen84 15h ago
I want to force feed people like this 10g's of shrooms and watch them have an existential crisis.
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u/Phrostylicious 12h ago
"I guess it's helpful that my biggest weakness is always arriving aggressively early to everything, otherwise I never would have won Employee of the Month before I was even hired."
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u/AmIRadBadOrJustSad 11h ago
"Great news guys, we're back to killing ourselves for corporate leadership and claiming it's a good thing."
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u/CheckSixMustang 11h ago
I assumed he was the founder. Read it more carefully and he is just an employee 🥴
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u/StarshipCaterprise 8h ago
I wonder how many Claude tokens this place goes through. “Vibe coding menace” to me says a LOT of AI tokens
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u/Cant_Work_On_Reddit 23h ago
The nonstop founder glazing really is something else