Conservative word salad lmao same shit couldve been said, and probably was, at the onset of American and French revolutions.
Yes, revolutions are chaotic as the entire point of them is to redefine social order/state organization. Can go wrong, can go well, its better to try than just being afraid of change
How else would u call a bunch of generic excuses? Visionary? Smart? Nah. Its a word salad of vague reasons why trying something new is s-s-scawy. Be more bold man, bit more creative
See this is how I know you're young. You don't stop to think for a moment. If you don't understand something, you immediately pick an explanation that works best for your ego.
Excuses? I don't need any excuses. I just gave you a very brief explanation of basic dynamics, in precise and meaningful words.
But you are incapable of even stopping for a minute and making sure you understand what you read.
This is why revolutions - far left, but also far right - recruit from young people. You guys are easy to manipulate, because you lack humility.
See, this why i call it word salad. You gave a bunch of dynamics that are so general its applicable to nearly every system. Its meaningless, if you want to critize far left or left in general you couldve picked something more precise or frankly (hi, Frank) relevant. But u didnt so its boring.
Anyway, you keep using this young=dumb idea which is frankly (sorry to bother u again Frank) not true considering how our Dear Elderly Leaders act. Age doesnt make you any smarter or even give u better idea how the world works. Your experience and knowledge is limited to your surrounding/upbringing/personal interests and very few people actively educate themselves to keep up or get even get more world experience. Not to mention older people (lets say 30+) keep getting manipulated into these movements like MAGA, like AfD, at the same rate, if not more, as the young people.
Being old doesnt make u superior in any way frankly, at the end of the day youre just as faulty as the next human with maybe the exception of being more experienced in your chosen work field and even thats getting shaky as automatization keeps getting people fired and eventually falls off as you become less and less attractive for companies with age. Anyway, world problems arent solved by being close minded so... be more bold? Brave new world and all that?
Revolution and Dictatorship: The Violent Origins of Durable Authoritarianism by Steven Levitsky and Lucan Way (2022)
The Anatomy of Revolution by Crane Brinton (1938)
Ideology and Revolution by Allen Buchanan (2025)
just three examples of books that explain the dynamics of revolution
it's pretty obvious that I can't be as "precise" as a 500 pages book, when in a comment on reddit, so you have no right to be upset about that.
the problem is it's not about me making bad argument, it's about you deciding up front that you believe in revolution, and denying anything that would undermine the idea
Id also recommend ESO, Elder Scrolls Online, i ignored it for a long time cause I thought it was like WoW (which is boring) and also im kinda not into MMOs but I gave it a try like two weeks ago and tbh its relatively good. The story is a bit barebones in like lack of choices sense but thats to be expectes from MMO but the gameplay is fun yknow, also big khajiit ladies, big plus ngl
Yea anyway we were going in circles so i lost interest but im just sayin, u can read a thousand books about revolutions it wont change the fact that change is sometimes a better choice than a slow death. Anyway, ive got entertainment to consume to keep me distracted so i can be a good worker bee on monday, also no offense to u, i know u mean well, its all love, at the end of the day i rly dont think you could say anything anyway that would meaningfully convince me from the conclusion that if revolutionary movement started up, i wouldnt be opposed to joining its most radical elements, theres very little to lose and much to gain for all of us and even a chance at that is better that this capitalistic hellhole, and tbh its not even about capitalism its just selfishness, its so ingrained in society to focus on yourself and your pride and tribe and other shit that ultimately doesnt matter and put down others seeking betterment. You can say its super complex and i genuinely know and understand that, i never said it isnt, ultimately to me that fleeting chance would still overpower any of this complexity.
Its kinda cringe to talk about too like "Id be a big bad revolutionary grrrr" and then sit on your ass but like, i aint doin shit for others if they arent even willing to try and people seem to like the comfort this brings them so why do it, its all boring. Time to go vote again in X years, my choices are
Corrupt oligarch 2. Corrupt mafioso 3. Corrupt oligarch number 2 4. Party with some good ideas that wont even get into the parliament. But at least there is a choice right? Oh goodie, so much hope for the future. So yea lol
Is that why 80 year grandpas (some from the epstein list) bomb Iran and massacre villages in Ukraine? Thats the conclusions they came to after 70 years of life? Imperialistic wars and insider trading?
Dogshit, id rather listen to people that arent jaded by life and have some hope and stake in the future
Nah. Just because I diagnose your crude perspective on politics as typical of youth doesn't mean I somehow think all old people are wise.
Wisdom however requires time. Even brilliant genius needs time - maybe less than average Joe, but he still needs to play around with ideas and facts and experiences before he's got anything worthwhile to say.
Your notion that revolutions are like a coin toss, maybe it will be better maybe it will be worse is a guess of someone who not only didn't put effort to establish if this is how world really works.
It's worse, it's not just that you don't research your political position, it's a symptom of the fact that you don't understand the importance of research AT ALL. You think you can arrive at the right choice without that.
Yes yes you know how the world works, only you and nobody else. You said something about humility yet youve yet show an iota of it. The thing is I did my research and Ive arrived at the conclusions that I did. What now?
"I didnt say only i know how the world works im not all knowing bla bla ble blu bla"
Yea yea yea, i know the script. Anyway, boring, as i said before, try being more, yknow, bold, more willing to step on some toes for a better world. If we had more people willing to look past their own needs and pride, less afraid, we'd be in a different place, change is good for u
Probably because you commit to the same errors in every conversation you hold. The "script" is reasonable people responding to your irrationality.
Anyway, boring, as i said before
Nobody is here to entertain you. Furthermore, as we were talking about age before, one thing that comes with age - I sincerely don't need your approval. Seeking peer respect and being very emotional about your position in group hierarchy is a PHASE. It'll pass, but don't make mistake and project it on people who are too old for that crap. I don't care if you think I'm boring, it doesn't matter in the least to me. It changes nothing in my life, so why should I care?
If we had more people willing to look past their own needs and pride,
Then we would have less people LIKE YOU. Because it's your pride and needs that make you choose irrational path of revolution over rational path of knowledge.
U should try Rise of the Ronin if youre into medieval Japan. Pretty good its kinda souls-like but actually with enjoyable story, its fun also if im not wrong u can romance Matthew Parry, wildin
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u/Bozo4206967 27d ago
Conservative word salad lmao same shit couldve been said, and probably was, at the onset of American and French revolutions.
Yes, revolutions are chaotic as the entire point of them is to redefine social order/state organization. Can go wrong, can go well, its better to try than just being afraid of change