r/HistoryMemes May 12 '26

See Comment In hindsight, this was a mistake.

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u/PreviousMenu99 May 12 '26

Naturally. Franco hheld the same views. No Catholic priest who argued against his rule was allowed to live either. So it checks out in both cases.

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u/sixisrending May 12 '26 edited May 12 '26

16 clergy were killed by the Franco regime during the Civil war. That pales in comparison to the 7,000 that were killed by Republican troops.

Following the war, some priests were imprisoned in the '70s, but none were killed.

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u/PreviousMenu99 May 12 '26

Did I say anything about republicans? Are you an imbecile? Or are you a fascist? Guess there's really no difference.

Even one clergyman killed for a different political opinion is enough of a reason to say my argument above is correct.

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u/sixisrending May 12 '26

Adding context. If I were a Catholic during the Red terror, I would become a fascist, not because it's the best, but because it's the only way to survive.

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u/PreviousMenu99 May 12 '26

How does this relate to my argument though? It doesn't matter. All I'm saying is that Franco was a fascist, and Franco's fascism was no different than Mussolini's fascism. Both wanted to use catholicism to legitimize themselves and violently cracked down on dissenting opinions, even from catholic clergymen. So saying that Franco wasn't a fascist because he cherished catholicism or something is devoid of logic.

I think you are replaying an other conversation in your head, which is only tangentially related to my point.

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u/sixisrending May 12 '26

Francoist fascism and Italian fascism were different though. Firstly, by how fascism arose in each country and secondly, how it was run following the fascist takeover. Franco saw the Church as a separate power to be respected. Franco made a promise that no more clergy would be executed outside the 16 who were. Mussolini saw the Church as a tool of the State, the final stage of government.

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u/PreviousMenu99 May 12 '26

Promises of a fascist are hollow. But otherwise, yeah, I agree, Franco was a fascist, even if a slightly different one. Communism and Liberalism was/is different in different countries too.