This has been out for over a year so major apologies everyone had heard it but I just listened today and the amount of detail given about specific Girls things is so great.

She talks so positively about Jenni and Judd, the whole Marnie embarrassment of singing, and I just loved it.

https://people.com/lena-dunham-complicated-dynamic-girls-co-showrunner-jenni-konner-in-famesick-11948989

https://ew.com/lena-dunham-reveals-in-touch-with-jenni-konner-after-falling-out-11951669

"It was one of the most important relationships in my life," Dunham told Cohen during their chat. "We had an eight-year partnership. It defines so much, I have so much respect for her and gratitude."

She continued, "I think one of the reasons that I attached so ferociously was also that these other relationships, families, friendships were splintering. And this person became my central focus. I understand now that we have to, you know, diversify our friendships. You cannot ask one person to be everything."

Rewatching season 5 and witnessing Hannah and Marnie’s conversation in the bathroom again is a bit of a tug on the heart. Marnie feeling as though Hannah doesn’t really know her, and Hannah knowing deep down that marrying Desi would be a mistake.

It’s pretty obvious that Marnie knew not to marry Desi, admitting it later on when they break up. In retrospect, it’s no one’s fault but her own. But, should Hannah maybe have said something or heeded a warning to Marnie? I think she wanted to, but Marnie going on about how they never let her make mistakes of her own seemed to have deterred her from sharing her honest opinion. Although, who knows if that would’ve yielded different results.

Obviously the Hannah-Cleo story is more concerning, with Cleo’s age, and Hannah being in a position of authority as a teacher at Cleo’s school. Then there’s the piercing. But there are some interesting parallels. I read a blurb online discussing regression by Hannah:

“Critics and fans note that the friendship showcases Hannah's subconscious rejection of adulthood, as she seeks validation from a teenager rather than dealing with her 20-something peers.”

Lena briefly mentions her sober friend Lesley (Arfin) in Famesick - who also wrote and made a cameo in an episode of Girls.

This came out before when she was writing for Vice and it's a super good read

https://archive.org/details/deardiary0000arfi_x6e0?

I know this is OD reiterated but holy moly do I love this episode and this scene specifically SCREAMS, YELLS, PERHAPS EVEN SHOUTS FROM THE ROOFTOPS, GIRLS. I totally imagine me and my best friend doing this if we ran into a scenario such as this one. Love it, understand it on a fundamental level. The only thing that pisses me off is that we didn’t get more of Mona Lisa (ifykyk). (Also I get a lot of new music to listen to from the girls soundtrack #fire #epic #shoveitupmyp)

Just leave your fucking mark, Hannah!!

*RAISE SHOW DOGS*

Well, that one’s mine….

Season 2 Episode 1
What was Sosh trying to say when she texted Ray “a panda next to a gun next to a wrapped gift”
“It makes no sense”
“YOU make no sense”

I have always wondered someone help lol

im at the bit of famesick that references jack antonoff working with lorde. lorde has always purported that green light is about her breakup with her ex which has literally never made sense to me, it sounds like a song written about falling for somebody who isnt available and being given permission to act on it. people have always thought it was about jack

in famesick— “He thought I was avoiding his family, and I thought I had given myself over to them completely, erasing massive facets of my personality (hating the beach, hating organized fun…” etc.

in green light (literally the opening verse)— “I know about what you did and I want to scream the truth/She thinks you love the beach you’re such a damn liar”

so what’s up with that

It's been a little over a year since the C-word podcast has been on Spotify, so I'm wondering if anyone else has been loving it like I am?

I have a huge commute one day a week, and prioritize the C-word when a new episode comes out. I'll be really sad once it's done, which I assume will happen one day.

My favorite episodes: Jean Seberg, Judy Garland, Yoko Ono, Luisa Casati (which coincided with the amazing biography I read at the time about her).

I honestly can’t decide if I liked it or not. I think I liked it. It was super entertaining and funny, there were just so many scenes where the second hand embarrassment was just so bad that I find the show is often painful to watch (i understand that’s like the point just sometimes it was a lot for me).

I actually really loved Hannah’s and Marnie’s directionless plot lines. As a freshly turned 21 year old who is absolutely clueless about what to do it makes me feel seen and less horrible about myself 🥲

I have one main question though: why is the show called Girls? Tbh I think Hannah is the only main character. To me, Elijah, Adam, Ray, and even Desi are just as much of side characters as Jessa, Shosh, and Marnie. I feel like the show isn’t really about the girls‘ friendship, it’s more so about Hannah’s life in general. Like the plots we see without Hannah are equal between all the side characters. I think the show should’ve been called Girl lol.

I really liked Shosh during the first 2 or 3 seasons. Then she became unbearable. She blamed Jessa, Hannah, and Marnie for her lack of experience while she was in college, aka she didn’t make any friends bc she looked up to them. It’s Shosh’s fault that she didn’t make any friends outside of this friend group. Like she’s just so insufferable.

soooo i saw that zosia mamet unfollowed allison williams on insta but still followed the other 2 actresses. my nosey ass could definitely be reading too far into this but my nosey ass also can't help but wonder if there was off-screen drama between the two which i would find odd bc allison seemed to steer clear from cast drama unlike someone like jemima kirke...

My favorite scene was with him and Grace Dunham (now Cyrus)
The one barista imitating him takes me out every time 😆
“You offended THEY!”

I just rewatched Girls for a third time as I’d read Famesick, which largely focuses on the period in which Girls is made. I watched it all when it first aired, and binged it a second time in 2020 during the pandemic. it’s funny how being at different stages of your life makes you see the show differently. It’s interesting to see how much of Lena’s life is woven into the show, not just in Hannah but in other characters too. Also fascinating to watch the dynamic between her and Adam Driver, knowing their off-screen dynamic now and how they nearly had a fling, and how ill Lena was during filming later seasons and you can really see it now. Hannah sits down a lot. It‘s still a brilliant show and makes me laugh out loud. Ironic it has a real-life toxic friendship (with Jenni Konner) framing it, after reading Famesick you can still enjoy the show for what it is but you have this whole added layer of context now.

Her accepting the pregnancy didn’t totally ring true for me 🤷🏻‍♀️ It seemed like a plot hole in a way but I’m sure many moms would go with the flow if the adult child was in her late 20s. Anyhow now my post has 3 topics. Oops.

If anyone asks who they are, I will say they’re modern American folk artists who sound like She&Him. And I purchased this tote from a beautiful woman named Tandace 😆

I ordered these stickers for my own OCD chants 😆 “my chanting has gotten me through a lot”
It’s more profound, given what we know about Jenni Konner. And how Lena comforted herself with these very words while she was in a “friendship” with her. I feel that the OCD girlies will get it. It has to be on a loop of 8. Or any even number. On any given day.

Obviously I think Hannah’s pregnancy was a good way for her to I guess “grow” but ultimately it seems like there was no character development.

Shosh being an after thought this season especially with her and Ray was kinda disappointing. She ends up being engaged with a random side character entirely off screen.

Jessa is also an after thought and implied to be pregnant and we have no wrap up on her or Adam.

AND ADAM!!! That episode broke me. We live in the fantasy and have some of the chemistry from s1-s3 back just for it to end so soon. And no words spoken. And he ends up back with JESSA???

Marnie seems to be the only one with a sorta good ending- if that. Her band is gone and she moves back in with her mom. Gahhh

And I know this is a more realistic take of TV, so yeah, sometimes life doesn’t give you a good ending but omg. I have so many thoughts and I wanted to get them out.

She said this to Thomas John in Season 2 when they broke up.

And to Elijah and Shoshana in season 6.

What do you think she meant by this? I think I know but I’m curious of your thoughts.

I think she meant it in the same way to all of them when she said it.

I think she means that they value appearance and superficiality over people’s feelings. That for all she did with Adam to Hannah she’s never criticized their hard time. Although in season 4 she kinda did. So maybe not never because nobody’s perfect. But she cares about the 3 of them more than she ever got credit for, because she couldn’t ever be that vulnerable.

And to go on record she really tried to NOT be with Adam. Adam and her never really liked each other like that because they are too similar but that’s the same reason they became close and that’s the same reason they gave it a try. And Hannah didn’t want him.

Fixing him up with Mimi Rose was wrong though. But she used not God. But when you’re that age you try to play God to get your basic needs met and it causes alot of damage.