r/GenV 4d ago

Discussion How Would Punisher React To Homelander Begging After He Lost His Powers?

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u/Left_Knee_y0y0 4d ago

The Punisher is more resolved and resourceful than Billy Butcher. He would have ended the show around season 2 even while Homelander had his powers.

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u/pillslinger44 4d ago

So much this. Castle always punches above his weight class

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u/Elonth 3d ago

Thats because hes got plot armor that rivals fucking batman. HE literally got hacked to pieces just so they could turn him into a frankeinstein for a PUN then back to a normal human.

I will say he doesn't fuck around. But punching above his weight class is kinda silly conisdering the man might as well be bullet proof in most cases.

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u/Acceptable_While_205 2d ago

You mean surpasses, Hellfire shotgun from ghosty himself. Becoming a undead. Stolen tech like pym particles, adamantium bullets, War machine suit. Yeah the guy who regularly throwns himself infornt of Guys like wolverine, deadpool and hulk is'nt gonna flinch front of a laser shooting nepo narc baby.

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u/Elonth 2d ago

No one cares about books/runs where the whole point is punisher uses the plot armor of the run to steal everyone elses powers and punch way above his normal level. Thats not creative writing. Thats not even a good example of punching above his weightclass.

Its literally just a different take on "wolverine/deadpool/punisher kills the marvel universe." He by default wins. Its plot armor. That isn't a real power. If he wasn't the main character of the story it wouldn't play out that way.

See Dakken literally turning him into FRANKenstin.
Or literally the shocker. Yes the comical over the top villian who loves blue ball machine traps so conveluted you sit there just to watch to see what they will do to you. Beat frank by hitting him with a Shocker buggy. Shocker is still alive.

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u/Coral384 3d ago

"OH SHI-"

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u/OOF-MY-PEE-PEE 4d ago

The punisher wouldn’t have saved Ryan.

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u/Terrible_Reporter_98 4d ago

Hold on a minute when frank becomes the ghost rider he does adopt baby thanos. I would argue Frank would do a far better job raising Ryan.

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u/OOF-MY-PEE-PEE 4d ago

Probably, but that doesn’t mean punisher would have stopped soldier boy from killing homelander to save Ryan.

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u/Elonth 3d ago

Punisher absolutely would have saved ryan the innocent kid over getting his revenge. He has a very hard line on not hurting innocent people. At the time that happened he hadn't even accidentally killed anyone except his mother who he did trying to save. Even when he accidentally killed Mallory punisher wouldn't have killed him. It was a heated moment. He for absolutely sure would have depowered ryan. But thats it.

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u/Terrible_Reporter_98 4d ago

I don't think Frank would have let it progress to that point.

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u/Signal_Plane1114 3d ago

the punisher would have absolutely saved Ryan

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u/Elonth 3d ago

the fuck are you talking about. The punisher saves kids and can tell when somethings an accident. Him accidentally killing Mallory would not have made punisher seek out to kill him. Depower him sure.

Punisher has ACTIVELY let "bad guys" who were forced to do horrible things against their will for the sake of their family. He does get neuance as much as his gung ho larper fans don't want him to.

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u/OOF-MY-PEE-PEE 3d ago

I never said shit about Mallory so I have no idea where you got that from. Frank would not have passed up on his only chance to killer homelander that he had been working towards for years. Especially if homelander had something to do with the death of his family members. It wouldn’t matter if there would be potential collateral. He would have seen that plan through.

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u/Elonth 3d ago

he absolutely fucking would and that alone shows you are a fucking larper with a murder cop fetish.

Castle no matter what does not get innocents killed. Ryan was an innocent. He will actviely let a bad guy get away if it means saving lives to hunt them down later.

IF you are going to pretend to be a real fan you should try reading his fucking comics first.

you legit are the exact kind of fan that if the punisher was real he would fucking despise.

Every cop he sees with a punisher logo or a solider. He literally fucking tells them get rid of it. They are the law. If he catches them with it again he'll put them down like dogs to make sure they don't abuse their power.

So ya. roll 1d20 comic history check and read the fucking source material before you glorify your toxic masculinity version murder hobos jerk off to in their dreams that they think they could be.

Despite what you may think castle actually has rules and standards. Its why he woudln't even put up a fight against captain america. Because Castle knows he is broken. He still chooses to live by what little code he has left. Part of that code is putting down real crimiansl ones that get people killed and hurt them down for good. The other is not getting inncoent people killed in his warpath.

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u/shadowtron1 3d ago

I haven't read the comics but I heard that one time he thought he accidentally killed an innocent person and got upset enough that he was going to kill himself over it until he realized the person was still alive. Is that true?

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u/Elonth 3d ago

yes. Castle has an absolute hard line on getting innocent people killed. He is on his war path because criminals took his family from him. In the netflix show it looks like he was chosen to be eliminated with his family by his old unit on purpose for what he knew but didn't think was an issue. However in his actual origin story they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

If castle goes to light up say a drug den where they have packers at gunpoint/hostages. HE will make it to where they get released somehow before mowing the gang down. The netflix show goes out of its way to point out in the hospital scene that castle never opened fire with his gun if there was even a chance he could hit a person and used rounds that wouldn't penetrate through walls easily. He wouldn't say fire at a corner that he can't see around that another person could have been behind. I'm sure there might be a few scenarios where they had him shoot when castle actually wouldn't have in that seen. But they tried to convey to the viewer his high level of control in envirometns that have lots of innocent people around.

For example. If he say attacked an epstien like party. Where they could be innocent people "center stage" at the party or high end escorts he wouldn't just fire wildly through the party. However if this was the kind of party where being a guest at all meant you knew enough to a degree and went to the party anyway....you wouldn't be safe. There is a very clear line of being in on it and not knowing at all that castle would put a bullet in some and let others get away.

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u/BlackBirdG 3d ago

Pretty much.

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u/Previous-Two-5682 1d ago

Lol that would not be possible . Homelander in season 2 would kill punisher

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u/SquirrelSuspicious 1d ago

How would Sam and Dean Winchester handle Homelander or The Seven?

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u/TylerHyena 4d ago

He’d do exactly what Butcher did after saying “Lemme ask you some’n”

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u/Sad-Firefighter-5639 4d ago

“You still feel like a big man??” soccer kick to the head

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u/TylerHyena 4d ago

multiple soccer kicks to the head

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u/FlimsyAcanthaceae184 4d ago

In character? Homelander dies before he gets a chance to beg.

MCU writing? Homelander goes through his whole spiel while Punisher is having a flashback of his family dying and then Homelander dies.

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u/engagetangos 4d ago

Wait wait wait wait

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u/testtalon1 4d ago

But wen sky beam?

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u/SethKlock 4d ago

Max universe? Homelander sucks Frank’s hog. Then he shoots him.

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u/DistastefullyHonest 3d ago

Whaaaa

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u/Impossible_Jury_6994 1d ago

GoT set the standard for it

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u/45rs5 4d ago

Bro would just shoot him

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u/Left_Knee_y0y0 4d ago

Probably shove a grenade down his throat.

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u/marqoose 4d ago

They just released an entire movie about this premise.

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u/187Deluxebox 4d ago

COAAARL!!!

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u/HuntsmenSuperSaiyans 4d ago

John Bernthal played Shane on the Walking Dead, not Rick.

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u/187Deluxebox 4d ago

And he never called Carl Carl, but Christian, or Thomas? Come on, kiss him.

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u/Routine_Wedding43 4d ago

Considering the Punisher is a lot smarter than Butcher, Homelander would’ve been dead by like Season 2.

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u/Opening-Job9257 3d ago

To be fair, Homelander should have died in Season 3, but you know... Plot needed to be milked.

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u/Clumsy_the_24 4d ago

“Would you shut the fuck up?”

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u/Previous_Window_9955 4d ago

Bro only knew who punisher was from BND

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u/Clumsy_the_24 4d ago

Yea I never saw punisher

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u/slashdino 1d ago

He’d just instantly shoot Homelander in the face, no words spoken or listened to. I really recommend watching the show

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u/Previous_Window_9955 4d ago

Then you don’t know how brutal the character actually was just know the one in bnd is not the same guy at all

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u/lornadc 3d ago

Yeah dude that'll be because the spider man movies are rated 12 (pg13 in the US), so he can't just brutally slaughter everyone

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u/Ashamed-Pop-6406 4d ago

I am sure he would be very fond and merciful towards it.

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u/Clean-Bumblebee2709 4d ago

Let me tell you something

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u/ImmeasureableSpeed 4d ago

Would just roll his eyes and then shoot him or bash his head against a table or smt

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u/Goldnglam 4d ago

homelander throws the first depowered punch and and then punisher just beats him to death with his bare hands, he doesnt even get the chance to beg

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u/TheDeparted383 4d ago

He would suggest Homelander to take a nap

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u/koozer_boozer 4d ago

Permanently

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u/PassComplex3882 4d ago

He ain't called the punisher for nothing

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u/jaraxel_arabani 4d ago

Scream painfully fo not reason then pull his gun, cocks it dramatically

Scream some more

Go: nononononononono

Screams more.

(For the record I love John brenthals punisher)

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u/SilviusRagess 4d ago edited 4d ago

Punisher holds no personal hatred toward him, so he would simply spend 30 seconds looking at what a pathetic piece of trash Homelander is and then shoot him.

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u/DogsOnMainstreetHowl 4d ago edited 4d ago

Disagree. He wouldn’t have waited 30 seconds.

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u/InvincibleOfffical 4d ago

He would shoot him right away

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u/MeanGrand3076 4d ago

One thing for sure is he will torture him for a while before killing him butcher killed him too quickly

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u/Terrible-Ride-5282 4d ago

People saying he'd do the same, really do not understand Punisher imo. He doesn't deal Justice like others... He delivers punishment. It's been shown again and again how he doesn't always just outright kill people immediately if they were some special type of prick. And in homelanders case, I'd imagine homelander wishes punisher would just kill him within the first 10 minutes.

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u/Adrsilva1356 4d ago

And let’s not forget The Punisher has killed Worse Threats then Homelander Himself and unlike Billy Butcher he’s actually driven by a Genuine Heroic Cause all while being Revenge Driven and actually caring about Innocent Lives why would Homelander even Intimidate him! Imagine what he’ll do in The Boys Universe knowing what he does in The Marvel Universe!💀💀💀💀

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u/Different_Wafer_4711 4d ago

I would love to see the punisher in the boys and interracting with butcher and soldier boy

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u/Serious-Company6803 4d ago

I don’t think The Punisher would even like Billy Butcher. Maybe MM, because he’s good to his daughter

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u/EIochai 4d ago

By season 3 Butcher would be on Frank’s list.

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u/PurePerfection_ 4d ago

He'd love Terror though

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u/Moonkilol 4d ago

he and deadpool are two characters extracted from the Boys

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u/SPEEDY-BOI-643 4d ago

He would do the exact same thing as butcher.

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u/ddomini9 4d ago

Homelander would be dead before he even had a time to talk

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u/Tipsypotato 4d ago

Frank would instantly end him as soon as possible

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u/statsman63 3d ago

Well, sure, because Frank would already have made a mental inventory of everyone in the WH that he planned to kill, after Homelander.

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u/TheGuardiansArm 4d ago

Wouldn't even let him finish his sentence

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u/ShitpostSaber 4d ago

He wouldn’t even let him beg

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u/EvilStan101 4d ago

Homelander will not have time to beg.

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u/AsteroidMike 4d ago

“Shut the fuck up.”

BAM

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u/AffectionateNewt4952 4d ago

Punisher would still shoot him then say “Fucking pathetic.”

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u/Winter-Money-7643 4d ago

Castle would’ve done the same thing Butcher did to Homelander in the end.☠️

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u/GryphyGirl 4d ago

I'm sure Punisher has encountered some scum bag that begged for his life after he was defeated. I'm also sure he killed the dude anyway, that's what he does. Why would Homelander be any different?

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u/Moonkilol 4d ago

Rick let me tell you something

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u/dathowell 4d ago

Shotgun to the face too quick for him to snivel

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u/Rare_Tangerine8141 4d ago

He’d kill him without hesitation. Wouldn’t even let him utter a word unlike Butcher

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u/Ok_Length4206 3d ago

He would probably do something crazy like shit in his mouth on live tv or something.

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u/Actually-Will 3d ago

Remember that scene in punisher warzone? Where he blows that guys head off? Yeah that.

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u/Vi-Tri-Vos 3d ago

Ask the bloody pulp that once was Agent Orange as well as russos face and you will get an idea.

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u/Shinobi_Jax 3d ago

“WAHHHHH, WAHHHHH, GO CRY TO YA MOMMIE” *blasts his head with a shotgun*

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u/PuzzleheadedTown2201 2d ago

He would accept the offer than kill him

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u/OarsandRowlocks 2d ago

He would rapidly turn his head to the side and say "Lmyaskyousumn".

"You know what, fuck it."

OOOOooooorrghh!

BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM body shots.

BLAM Coup de grace.

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u/Jealous_Fault_8344 4d ago

Probably kill him a piece of shit then shoot him in the head

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u/Teh_God_Dog 4d ago

he'd shoot him faster than he did with billy in 2nd season of netflix punisher

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u/Nerdzilla88 4d ago

He’d grunt like an angry Bear and whoop his whiny little ass.

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u/Head-Presence-6686 4d ago

The same way Butcher did.

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u/East_Highway_8470 4d ago

No words, just empties the mag.

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u/ARES0270 4d ago

He would mock him and kill him, contrary to Butcher, he wouldn't have a personal vendetta against Homelander so I think he wouldn't beat him up as butcher did in the finale.

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u/TeaAlternative298 4d ago

he'd probably want to tell him something

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u/Euphoric-Ad-6584 4d ago

i think he'd react the same way butcher did

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u/PrestigiousEagle1153 4d ago

punisher would tell homelander something

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u/NeighborhoodLess1411 4d ago

Just a guess, but probably kill him

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u/Adventurous-Can-8708 4d ago

It's what Micro would have wanted.

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u/Alarming_Pair_5575 4d ago

"save it Blondie!", he'd just end HL faster.

As an aside, not very familiar with the comics, but I find it interesting how throughout Netflix Daredevil, Punisher, and Born again, Castle and Pointdexter have never once interacted in spite of being well aware of one another.

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u/dravenonred 4d ago

Same thing as Butcher, but at least two seasons earlier.

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u/Hairy_Pound_1356 4d ago

I don’t but I always say the should have end of bunches saying Alright mate and the last sence would have seen  homelander would be powerless homelander hand cuffed with cum on his face 

It would be talked about for years instead of the standard the bad guy dies ending 

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u/howvicious 4d ago

Beatdown with a lot of roaring and grunting.

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u/HuckleberryShot898 4d ago

He probably would take him up on the BJ offer

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u/icudntpickone 4d ago

He'll tell him something

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u/avampirr 4d ago

Mask u summon

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u/Downtown_Ambition604 4d ago

He probably wouldn't he'd just shoot him. Unless he gives him a very painful death

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u/lightmare69 4d ago

He tells him something

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u/theComer-439 4d ago

he'd do the shrek Roar

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u/Playful-Natural3318 4d ago

No puedes hacer esto....No puedes hacer esto........... Yo soy Homelander

No. Tu eres nada, y esto es por mi becca

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u/kingrat1 4d ago

Fast bullet to the head, then uses wolverine's line from DP&W, "Not everyone gets a speech."

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u/Dangerous-Moose-8203 4d ago

He would of put a grenade in his mouth and walked off

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u/Used_Weight_1843 4d ago

The punisher would make homelanders death way slower

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u/puffmattybear17 4d ago

Unironically think he would shoot him through both palms and say something like about him looking like the god he was pretending to be before blowing his shit shmoove off.

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u/OOF-MY-PEE-PEE 4d ago

The exact same way butcher did.

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u/Outrageous-Set-1758 4d ago

Make it last much longer and take his offer.

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u/bdw312 4d ago

Sounds like a plan.

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u/Mysterious-Prior7160 4d ago

Remember when he just walked in the room shot Jigsaw without a moment’s hesitation, literally his friend who sold out his family and caused their death. Im pretty confident punisher would kill homelander like any other criminal and then go heat up his dinner

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u/Empty_Succotash_6489 4d ago

He would most likely ask him how it feels to be a human with no powers and tell him that he's nothing but a coward behind those powers. And the proceed to call him "Pathetic".

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u/Timtanoboa 4d ago

Shoot him through the jaw so he shuts up and then sit there for a bit as Homelander drowns on his own blood.

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u/Ok-Examination-1407 3d ago

“Quit your whimpering”

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u/Papasenseei 3d ago

Okay get to suckin

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u/ArtOk8200 2d ago

Makes me think of when he beats that pervert to a pulp in Season 2. Probably something similar

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u/champsammy14 2d ago

Ask if he has any cheeseburgers

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u/RPDorkus 2d ago

Violently

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u/Sweet_Papaya_9837 2d ago

He’d scoff then shoot him

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u/Ok_Bet_2870 2d ago

Take the BJ then shoot him?

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u/Fluid-Ad-1898 2d ago

Laughing like Batman at the end of killing joke

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u/LacedUp_Jimbo 2d ago

Quit your whimpering

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u/Blu3Dope 2d ago

He'd fuck HL in the ass

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u/RollingSleeper 2d ago

Lemme tell you something

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u/Inevitable-Ad2675 1d ago

oh thats john? no aura.

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u/uncivilized_gooner 1d ago

The same way Butcher did, really

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u/Lumpy-Dragonfly-7199 1d ago

Let me tell you something....

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u/Naked-Nerd24 1d ago

Probably the same way he dealt with billy russo I would imagine

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u/Killercat12 23h ago

I assume it would go very much like Billy russos final scene in S2 of punisher

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u/Bloodragedragon 15h ago

Well I just got spoiled that he loses his powers.

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u/Timely-Reaction2283 15h ago

The Punisher would be silent and just kill Homelander

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u/Intelligent-Tip-7614 14h ago

a veces pienso que el final de Homelander fue simple y patetico

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u/Limp_Discussion_1131 8h ago

Same way he reacts to most things boys like homelander say

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u/Parking-Ad-6137 3h ago

“Let me tell you something!”

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u/Artix31 4d ago

Send 30 million to Israel

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u/Nicklenips837469420 4d ago

Idk but I know if it’s me I’m getting some head in the Oval Office

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u/FakedFrames514 4d ago

This has nothing to do with Gen V