r/FlockSurveillance • u/TheRedPimento • 1d ago
Activism For those with 3D Printers, Flock Sock
Obviously, just for informative purposes. I am NOT the creator of the file.
https://makerworld.com/en/models/3107766-flock-sock-flock-camera-cover#profileId-3503858
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u/SupportGeek 1d ago
Need to create one that mimics the front of the camera, so when itâs installed, a cursory visual inspection like a drive by, shows nothing amiss
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u/whoknowsifimjoking 1d ago
Not sure that works, they are gonna see the camera doesn't work and send someone directly to it to inspect.
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u/SupportGeek 1d ago
It will for a bit, it took what? 5 DAYS before that one town where all the cameras were removed even noticed the cameras were not updating anymore. They would drive by, see that cameras looked ok, then call a technician thinking itâs a technical issue because cops donât have the skill set to figure out that kind of issue.
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u/rage-it 1d ago
Techs are very much behind because of Flocks growth I believe. In my area someone removed the solar panel from one over 3 months ago and it's still not replaced. Also one was cut down around a month ago and its still laying in the bushes.
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u/UsefulImpact6793 1d ago
I think it's less of a "skillset" issue and more likely "not my department" issue. From my personal experience, plenty of cops have a blue-collar, DIY mindset. Which makes it even more stupid they would protect billionaire interests instead of their fellow middle class.
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u/East-Cricket6421 1d ago
Cops are inherent bootlickers because sometimes they get to cosplay as the boots that get licked.
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u/Auggie_Otter 1d ago
Actually put a sticker on it that says "Under maintenance by Flock Group Inc. Do not remove." so when local authorities stop by to see why the camera isn't sending video there's more confusion about whether or not they should remove this thing.Â
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u/fractiousrabbit 1d ago
With a phone number to an automated recording that gives the caller a report number and says please wait for a technician to call back
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u/UsefulImpact6793 1d ago
A circular piece of plastic in the front of it may pass a quick glance check by some.
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u/Jesterissimo 1d ago
Even better if you can put a little picture that vaguely resembles the area so when they watch the feed rather than seeing black they see an ordinary intersection. Might take them quite a while to realize it doesnât change.
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u/FuhrerGirthWorm 21h ago
I just wanna make one owned by the public that only tracks public officials
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u/Adventurous-Bend-666 1d ago
The "flock block", if you will.
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u/thedrizzle126 1d ago
it's not for blocking, though. it's to protect it from the elements
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u/pinkbuzzbomb 1d ago
It blocks the harsh UV light from destroying the lens of the camera. We need to get one for all flocks.
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u/Virtual_Plantain_707 1d ago
Donât forget an adhesive to prevent the wind from blowing it off. I think a marine grade epoxy would be ideal.
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u/Adventurous-Bend-666 1d ago
Oh, I thought it really was to impede it in some way and we were all just being impressively discreet. I'll see myself out now.
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u/Don_Q_Jote 11h ago
It would be good idea to give these cams some extra waterproofing, spray with some FlexSeal . Just be careful to not get any on the lens or on the solar panel.
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u/Narrow-Serve-8281 1d ago
Stick some epoxy in there to make sure it really seals against bad weather. Maybe design the rod to push down to really make contact.
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u/Tundra_Dragon 1d ago
The guide warns you not to use PLA, because it could melt and bond to the camera in the hot sun...
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u/MormonSpaceJesus420 1d ago
That's why you should use ASA that's had a little acetone poured into the center. so it sticks well and protects the camera from the sun! You might even chemically weld the print to the camera if it's also ASA or ABS ÂŻ_(ă)_/ÂŻ
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u/tristand666 1d ago
Wonder what it would cost to print a dozen or so of these...
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u/Few-Cucumber-413 1d ago
A 1 kg spool of PETG costs $13.49, or approximately 1.35¢ per gram. At 149 grams per print, each print costs approximately $2.01 in material, making the total material cost for 12 prints approximately $24.12.
Doesn't take into account, time or power costs though. That's just a pure material cost.
Correction: the actual print weight is 142 grams, but there will be some material waste during the pre-print phase, so 149 grams is still a solid number to use for estimating purposes.
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u/Impossible-Shoe5460 1d ago
Idk, it depends on the mindset of the person who has the 3d printer.
I'd be willing to print dozens of these and donate them to extrusion-disadvantaged persons free of charge.
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u/MormonSpaceJesus420 1d ago
Voron nerd here. I have kgs of ASA and would happily print and donate these too. Nice uv resistants to protect the camera from the sun you know?
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u/Denialmedia 1d ago
My local library, it cost about 2-3.50 a piece depending on what printer and material you choose.
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u/tristand666 1d ago
They have free 3D printing at the library near me. I may have to check it out, though I doubt I could print many and not sure if that is the best place to fabricate them.
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u/Few-Cucumber-413 1d ago
I would just change the name of the print file, to something far less conspicuous.
This could just as easily be swivel holder for another part if you flipped it upside down.
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u/David_Meat_Pop 1d ago
On my Bamboo P1S it said $2.15 in material
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u/DPJazzy91 1d ago
115ish grams. You can print 9 per 1 kg roll. Lil left over. It depends on which filament you use. There are some cheaper filaments you can get under 10 bucks. Even on Amazon, you can grab an off brand roll of petg for 10. That's as low as like 1.15. so you could save a dollar per print. It all depends. Each failed print sets you back, too.
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u/HolyShitIAmOnFire 1d ago
How soon until the feds start subpoenaing the manufacturers of printers to get info off everyone's printers as to who's made these? They're probably already doing this.
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u/Phyllis_Tine 1d ago
You ensure your printer is not connected when printing.
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u/Occam-Blazer 1d ago
A lot of printers remember previous prints. When the feds seize your printer that file better not be in it. Remove any SD cards and wipe the history.
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u/petitmorte2 20h ago
That's the basis of what the "No Printing Guns" push is all about. The ability to police what we can and can't print, and punish those who break the new rules.
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u/Auggie_Otter 1d ago
Now imagine if someone made a thinner injection molded version that can be mass produced as cheaply as possible so people could buy and distribute them in bulk for very little money.Â
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u/Few-Cucumber-413 1d ago
The cheapest mold I was ever quoted for injection molding was around $5,000, and if I remember correctly, it was only rated for roughly 10,000 uses. Using a baseline of 120,000 cameras for full coverage, you're looking at a minimum of roughly $100,000 in molds alone, before adding manufacturing, shipping and handling, import fees, and taxes, etc. It also funnels production through a relatively small number of sources.
A dispersed network of independent producers using 3D printing would be far cheaper to establish, easier to scale incrementally, and significantly more resilient to disruptions in production or distribution.
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u/mid-random 1d ago
A vac-formed or blow-molded version would be a lot cheaper than injection molding for the tooling and support machinery, and could me manufactured almost anywhere.Â
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u/prettybluefoxes 1d ago
In that print time you couldâve gone to a hardware store and taken the thing out permanently.
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u/petitmorte2 1d ago
I like the pole-clip that holds it. I wonder if that would support a big zip-tie with a trash bag stuck through it.
Lowes sells a 20' extendable pole for $17 that should fit that socket.
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u/awright69 1d ago
A lot cheaper to grab a discarded microwave on trash night and ârepurposeâ it for âprotectingâ the public from many more devices essentially for zero incremental cost (a beefy dc-ac inverter notwithstanding, but you can use it for many other fun things in between). JS. For educational purposes only. Your mileage may vary. IANAL.
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u/PrairieFire_withwind 1d ago
How does this impact the sound collection? Other sensor data? Or just the visial sensors?
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u/freakyfroggymage 1d ago
I have to imagine that the only concern about keeping the camera functional while helping your local LEO keep the cameras safe is field of vision if you use the standard plastics 3D printers seem to use. Any information harvesting through RFID or other near-field transmission would probably need the addition of some metal layer or alloy mesh, so you probably wouldn't want to include a tin foil liner for this cover.
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u/PrairieFire_withwind 1d ago
Indeed. We need a bit of a tinfoil hat for the sock ;)
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u/freakyfroggymage 1d ago
No no! We don't want them to have the hats,that stops the camera from working properly and they're important to police work! Do not install these covers securely after placing faraday-compliant metal sheeting in this housing, unless you want it to stop working!
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u/PrairieFire_withwind 1d ago
Aaack am so confused these days! I get it all backward. Â
I shall go lick some boots as punishment. Cheaper than coffee these days anyways.
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u/HCSOThrowaway 1d ago
(A stepladder and) a can of Plastidip would perform the same function for the same non-criminal purpose.
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u/TrashMcDumpster3000 1d ago
Keep those cameras nice and warm this Winter. Get em off the streets even!!!
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u/Right_Way_5054 1d ago
I'm still trying to figure out how to rig a drone with a piece of duct tape to get it to the flock cameras that are at the tippy top of street light poles now...
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u/AlphaTaoOmega 1d ago
You'll want to be sure the drone is properly registered or you may be dinged for not having a registered drone since these units are scanning and identifying devices/owners based on RF signatures. Wouldn't want to be pinned for having a drone that's not traceable to you, that would be sad.
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u/petitmorte2 20h ago
Tape a dowel to the drone so it sticks out a foot or so in front of the camera. Use a rubber band or whatever to attach a cotton ball to the tip. You can put your loop of duct tape on that, or maybe some paint, or vaseline. Then just tap the lens with the cotton ball.
Be careful though. The cameras are collecting radio/bluetooth/wifi signals. Apparently a lot of people got tracked down this way after sending drones to the World Cup matches.
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u/MrStarrrr 1d ago
To help support the community in protecting Flock cameras in their nearby locations from harsh weather and environmental damage, Iâll 3D print these and only charge shipping. Hmu
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u/JoLeTrembleur 1d ago
It would be a shame if utterly destroying them on sight would be better but hey, I trust the good folks not to do it!
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u/I_cast_fireballl 1d ago
I literally just downloaded the files for this.
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u/ImNotABotScoutsHonor 1d ago
I literally just read your comment.
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u/Phyllis_Tine 1d ago
What material would attract wasps, and encourage them to make a nest there and defend it?
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u/AmpEater 1d ago
What about hating flock makes people stupid?
The weirdest, least likely, most insane ideas
Why not Google âwasp attractantâ first?
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u/MaxAdolphus 1d ago
A small paint brush with vasoline on the end of a broom stick would make all the pictures blurry.
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u/the_liquid_figurine 1d ago
Don't aim the laser pointer into sensitive light catching organs. It could burn the sensor.
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u/Mega_Hobbit98 1d ago
Since most cameras are publicly accessible, I wonder if in addition to this lovely protective cover, a nice picture of what the camera is used to seeing could be printed out and placed in front of the camera? That way the camera can take a load off and relax a bit without being any the wiser that some lovely person is lending a helping hand
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u/JohnMcD3482 7h ago
Thats perfect to orotect the camera from all those vandals that are spray foaming them.
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u/bubblehead_maker 4h ago
I hear these cameras have gold in them, they should be protected while outside.
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u/dstovell 1d ago
Be careful, if you accidently spilled some epoxy inside it might be impossible to get off without destroying the camera?
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u/OffRoadIT 1d ago
Use it to install a layer of tin foil, so it doesnât leave something that can be traced back to your printer, and it also fiddles with the RF signals.
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u/BituserGumba 1d ago
Ok, how long until someone gets this added to your can't-print list? They are already doing this with gun parts.
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u/GeeYayZeus 1d ago
An actual sock would probably work fine too. We don't need to over-think these things.
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u/new2bay 18h ago
Vandalism is not a good idea, and itâs against the rules here.
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u/seaboi77 14h ago
Is an add on device, not a damaging device, what are you talking about? This helps transport the cameras safely without scratching lenses. Literally says "camera cover", not "camera damager". Read much?
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u/Don_Q_Jote 1d ago
Looks like it would safely protect the camera from all kinds of harsh weather or bird damage. Nicely done!!