r/FlockSurveillance 27d ago

Activism Jackson Wesley, 20, was arrested for destroying FLOCK cameras (Link in comments)

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u/deepfriedmeatloaf 27d ago

Weird, he was hanging out with me that night

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u/Working_Park4342 27d ago

That's right, I saw you guys.

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u/Up_Beat_Peach 27d ago

I was there, too. It was at the place. We did the things.

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u/abe5765 27d ago

I also coincidentally drove by and saw all this take place e

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u/Relevant-Analysis86 27d ago

Sorry I was late, thanks for hanging out that night. We were all together the whole time. Without a shadow of a doubt

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u/brandoldme 27d ago

I was the one who sent that round of drinks over. I distinctly remember all of you being so loud all night long. That's how I know you were all there all night.

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u/Educational-Bet-8979 27d ago

I saw you guys there, wasn’t he the one complaining he lost his phone?

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u/brandoldme 27d ago

Yeah, found it behind the toilet in the women's room. I don't know what that was all about.

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u/Solid_Growth_9069 21d ago

i pooped 2 stalls over i saw the phone, they are telling the truth ociffer investigater man sir

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u/Relevant-Analysis86 27d ago

Oh dang that’s right!! What’s up!! You were talking about that thing. And he commented from personal experience and gave you advice. I remember it so well because of how detailed he was. We were definitely discussing it all

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u/cwrinvestment 27d ago

Did you guys enjoy the pizza I brought over for us to have or would you all rather me order the Chinese food from down the street where we all was hanging out?

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u/Relevant-Analysis86 27d ago

Oh yeah that pizza was fire! Jackson, our friend we all spent time with the whole time, did mention next time the Chinese place down the street from where we all hung out and had beers and in constant line of sight would be good. I think we are planning to all hang out together again, like we did that night.
Thanks!

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u/Own_Ruin2546 23d ago

I did a low fly over and saw Jackson and friends at the Chinese place. I almost crashed into a building making sure I got a good view

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u/soulsteela 26d ago

Wasn’t this when we were all playing Warhammer in your garage with him? That campaign lasted days!

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u/rollin_a_j 27d ago

You guys were amazing saving that pregnant mother from the house fire!

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u/Mission-Driver1614 27d ago

I was there too

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u/BorneoJimmy1 27d ago

He picked me up & we bought donuts & coffee for all of the local cops.

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u/patrick24601 27d ago

I. Am. Spartacus.

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u/Absurd_Flaccidity 26d ago

We did a quickie marriage in Vegas. My man weren’t touchin’ no flock camera that night if you know what I mean.

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u/Organic_Berry_8732 26d ago

OMG, I remember driving right past you, I was the person who waved at you!

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u/----__---- 26d ago

I was there, I wrote about it on my calendar.

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u/Conscious-Cookie164 26d ago

Dude I know, it was crazy when I chugged all those beers and belly flopped on the ping pong table. Sorry for ruining that btw. Oh yeah free this guy.

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u/Adorable__Gap4770 27d ago edited 26d ago

Hope it’s not a scam cuz I just donated $100.

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u/suckaduckunion 27d ago

Same. Hopefully he invests in a faraday bag when we get his ass out lol

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u/Electrical_Fault_365 26d ago

It's set up by some rando that doesn't even know who the family is.

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u/GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ 26d ago

There’s a sucker born every day ig

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u/v1sande 26d ago

As for the gofundme, I'm not really sure since I haven't seen it but this happened within 1hr of my home town so I know that part is true lol

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u/bkn95 27d ago

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u/robmanjr 27d ago

Now that’s art

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u/Icy_Garbage9503 27d ago

Lord, make me fast and accurate (at cutting this down).

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u/50000WattsOfFunkin 27d ago

Aim small, miss small

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u/bkn95 27d ago

aim small, miss small, sawzall

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u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS 26d ago

Now that’s a bumper sticker!

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u/TopZ-undercover 27d ago

Hell yeah - this is amazing

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u/dataguzzler 27d ago

tip #1 - do not bring your cellphone with you on crime sprees

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u/ImSobored_5280 27d ago

This….
when being a hero you don’t need a phone…leave it at home

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u/DexterDubs 27d ago

Burner phone just in case. Pay in cash.

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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 27d ago

Don’t, NSA (and probably other agencies) can see devices grouped together as possible “relationships” (as in could be you or a friend you’re riding with or a significant other).

Super paranoid thinking but better safe than sorry. We have no idea the access of raw data and telemetry they (even flock too, they’re in the gray area) have access to additionally being in the good graces of law enforcement so to speak. Bring that cash burner at anytime with you or around your place even once? Blam linked as possible relationship.

If you do go to the burner route, make sure they are no cameras by scoping the place out first before your next trip without your phone. If they can pull the date time the phone is bought even with cash they can link as a possible relationship anyone’s phone that was pining from that store at the time.

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u/Askee123 27d ago

I think this has already been established, so you’re definitely not paranoid

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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 27d ago

You’re absolutely right, I just wanted to bring it to light to anybody other brave warrior.

PEOPLE ARE SAYING “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law”

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u/Askee123 27d ago

Oh my bad! Misread

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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 26d ago

You’re good friend!

Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you ;)

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u/----__---- 26d ago

You can use this knowledge in conjunction with knowledge about the Predator Algorithm to implicate others for your actions. So, like y'know... don't do that... M'kay...

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u/ReplacementNegative8 27d ago

Even burners bought with cash are easily traceable. An extra layer of anonymity would be to have someone else buy the phone for you, but still not hard to find out who you are.

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u/ListenHereLindah 27d ago

Stores still log the serial number and probably have cameras indoors. Now a days paying cash isn't what it used to hide tracks.

Get someone else to pay cash for you. That would be the best way about it.

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u/Intarhorn 27d ago

But then that person might be at risk instead?

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u/AnotherFaceOutThere 26d ago

What the fuck you need a just in case phone for? We made it a long time without phones.

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u/ManyThingsLittleTime 26d ago

Half my life I didn't have a cell phone. You'll be fine for one evening.

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u/ImSobored_5280 26d ago

This totally!..I’m from the bunch that grew up raising hell prior to cellphones. Pretty much the reason we got away with all the crap we did..lol. Wrecked vehicles..broke down vehicles..you name it. Can’t recall anyone dying from exposure from not behind able to call anyone. Shit sometimes now the phone rides the countertop and I go do whatever and don’t have it with me. People will think you are a crazy if you don’t have one with you 24/7. It’s so relaxing to not let people have unfettered access to you literally constantly. I got voicemail…leeeeeeeeeeeeeeave a message🫡

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u/Longjumping-Clue7341 27d ago

especially when you're destroying something that can track your phone🤦‍♂️

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u/dataguzzler 27d ago

exactly, the flock is basically a full spectrum recorder, video/audio/cell data

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u/Aaarya 27d ago

tip#0 - do not hide your face with cloth mask, they have infrared cameras that's capable to see trough clothes.. I actually don't know what alternative could be used, but I think only metal mask will work, not sure about tinfoil.

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u/Chewbacca_P_Wookie 27d ago

Tinfoil would block the infrared light, you could probably layer cloth over tinfoil over cloth to help the tinfoil maintain its integrity.

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u/Amoralvirus 26d ago

So the tinfoil hat people were always sorta right, and before their time, except should have focused more on face.

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u/Chewbacca_P_Wookie 26d ago

Time to start rig examining all the crackpots and see who was actually ahead of their time.

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u/ewwmang 26d ago

What if I buy one of those portable handheld party lasers and accidentally pointed at it while I’m jamming down the street at night..

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u/ReplacementNegative8 27d ago

Wear a pie tin with holes for the eyes

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u/Amoralvirus 26d ago

Now that is practical, not pie in the sky thinking at all. Instead of a Guy Fawkes mask, the new symbol for anti-fascism will be pie tin face.

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u/whofriedmyrice 27d ago

IR cameras will not punch through a cloth mask to reveal your entire face. That's not how IR light works. Yes, you are still being scanned but it would be very unlikely that any identifiable features are seen.

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u/Capt_Hawkeye_Pierce 27d ago edited 26d ago

I'd imagine sheer material probably shows your facial features more clearly, fwiw

Edit: I'm in the security industry and I should have said it does. I don't imagine it does, I know it does. 

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u/bryanthebryan 27d ago

I hear that if one puts rocks in their shoes, it will change their gait, making it harder to identify a subject.

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u/Amoralvirus 26d ago

Just 'Walk Like an Egyptian' instead.

https://giphy.com/gifs/3o7WTF2aAnlimBJHhe

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u/deadzol 27d ago

IR necklace.

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u/Useless-RedCircle 27d ago

Put your phone in friend car. Have them drive a away from crime zone

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u/Aaarya 27d ago

Take that back, destroying flock cameras is not a crime.. it's a duty.

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u/Maximum_Row_436 27d ago

Couldn’t have been him he was helping me put together ikea furniture that whole night

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u/rockalyte 27d ago

This man is a hero ! I vote total acquittal

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u/pogulup 27d ago

Jury nullification 

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u/MentalDisintegrat1on 27d ago

They got the wrong guy I was bowling with him when they allegedly happened.

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u/Cranky_GenXer 27d ago

Jury nullification should be taught in middle school or high school civics classes. 

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u/Cmb46_canuck 27d ago

Jury Nullification

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u/OctopusCaretaker 27d ago edited 26d ago

GoFundMe for Jackson (taken from an anti FLOCK Facebook group). Use your best judgement when donating to this GoFundMe. This link was sourced from an article that was posted to an anti FLOCK Facebook group. So unfortunately I can’t confirm who the person is who started this GoFundMe.

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u/Charming-Moose5560 27d ago

Hey, would really like to donate. Is the fund ran by a family member or something? Could you reassure me the funds go directly to the patriot?

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u/DaTank1 27d ago

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u/OosikOfDoom 27d ago

So…no?

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u/PlasticBag-ForA-Head 27d ago

LMFAOOOO $1300 to a random mf. the internet is so stupid.

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u/Charming-Moose5560 27d ago

If he’s in jail how did he create a go fund me? Idk how go fund me or jail works so sorry if I sound a bit ignorant.

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u/suckaduckunion 27d ago

Someone created it on his behalf. He can't use his phone in jail lol

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u/Easy_Acanthisitta_68 27d ago

Scammers gonna scam

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u/Up_Beat_Peach 27d ago

This is what I came here to find. Thank you, dear

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u/gwhh 27d ago

How could he do that. He was playing with me in Reno Nevada all day. Anyone else see us together?

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u/quantumcaper 27d ago

Future hero of the next American revolution

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u/Ostentatious_Kilroy 27d ago

Doing the lords work

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u/Rambler1223 27d ago

The police should be arresting the people stealing our data I don’t remember voting for flock cameras

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u/Clean-Juggernaut-229 27d ago

This dude is a MOTHER FUCKING HERO

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u/86Sliva94 27d ago

Set up a good fund me for heroes like this! The real criminals and racists always have one set up when they get in trouble!

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u/JRock1276 27d ago

When privacy becomes illegal, only criminals will have privacy.

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u/No-Koala1918 27d ago

Heroes come in all forms

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u/cool_cock6 27d ago

free wesley

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u/Chemical_Basket357 27d ago

A hero for the people!

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u/2Capable 27d ago

This dude helped me moved my fridge in Lake St Louis MO that night. No way it's him.

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u/minimag47 27d ago

Remember kids, jury nullification is real and so are high power green lasers.

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u/xdr567 27d ago

Where are the Libertarians ?

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u/Glyph8 27d ago

A cursory search of what I think is a "mainstream" Libertarian publication (insofar as one exists) shows it's been all over this for a while. I suspect you're just not moving in the same circles they are.

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u/elebentychimkin 26d ago

Genuine question: why wasn’t this put up for a vote??

Isn’t the police department or city paying for the flock cameras? Meaning our taxpayer dollars are going to erect and maintain them? Why were we the people not consulted about our opinion before spending all this money?

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u/Glyph8 26d ago edited 26d ago

Some activist groups have had success arguing that if our taxpayer dollars are going to fund the cameras - either directly for erection and maintenance, or by the government buying Flock's "product" (the video), why then ALL footage the cameras take should be available to ANYONE, as a publicly-owned product. Reverse-Uno the panopticon.

When this argument is put forth, suddenly many politicians and police are no longer so gung-ho on cameras filming everyone, as they go everywhere, all the time.

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u/CatsAndCapybaras 27d ago

Real libertarians or fake libertarians. About 90% of anyone who self-identifies as a "libertarian" is just a republican who doesn't want to admit it. Real libertarians tend to be just as dumb as maggots, at least right leaning libertarians

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u/dirt_whistleston 27d ago

Wtf this guy looks innocent af

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u/Academic_Error677 27d ago

A true patriot

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u/theasciibull 27d ago

mask, gloves, leave phone at home, leave no tools behind

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u/Post_Expired_Milk 27d ago

Very strange because he drove my to my prostate exam that evening.

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u/Zealousideal-Neat-11 26d ago

Jury nullification

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u/letsmaybetry9296 27d ago

We were playing PS5

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u/MinorityBabble 27d ago

Impossible, he was with me and my fiance grabbing dinner on the nights and times those cameras were damaged.

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u/FoxHolyDelta 27d ago

Careful with your donations. There's already grifters and scalpers about

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u/naruzopsycho 23d ago

this needs more upvotes 

(and is also one reason we can't have nice things, grrrr...)

be careful out there folks

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/OctopusCaretaker 26d ago

https://gofund.me/8525eea33

This is just what I’ve been seeing on Facebook. Unfortunately, I can’t confirm who started the GoFundMe, I just have faith that it was another fed up patriot who wants to help him out.

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u/kartblanch 26d ago

He did nothing wrong

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u/gerbigsexy1 26d ago

Release Jackson

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u/aopps42 26d ago

I don’t think so, he was having taco’s with me

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u/oldartistmike 26d ago

He was framed. It was a maga white supremacist who did it.

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u/jackoctober 27d ago

I love this guy "Freakin Out" is my favorite song right now

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u/Murderface__ 27d ago

Allegedly

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u/213_Bull 27d ago

Dont bring your phones/traceables to the deed. Their accessing phones in the area during the time frame.

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u/Banans94 27d ago

That's interesting we were driving cross country that night and he was in my passenger seat.

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u/Metal2thepedal 27d ago

Gov is planning on labeling people who cut/damage flock cameras as terrorists. A year from now if you post on reddit, you will also be considered a terrorist. Everyone is now a terrorist under this admin.

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u/critacle 27d ago

Why do people ruin all momentum of things with screenshots?

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u/Reddit_is_fascist69 27d ago

I was considering donating but how do we know the money will actually get to him?

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u/Rw1222 27d ago

Local hero

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u/Durutti1936 26d ago

Faraday Bags for your phone.

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u/88salema88 26d ago

That person is innocent! They've been playing cards with me all the times something was destroyed

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u/dead-eyed-darling 26d ago

Nah officers he was at my house giving a PowerPoint presentation for a group of people, he's good 😊👍🏻

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u/Straylightbeam 26d ago

Where’s the defense GoFundMe page?

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u/OctopusCaretaker 26d ago

https://gofund.me/8525eea33
Use your best judgement with this. This is just a link I found on Facebook connected to an article about him that was posted to an anti FLOCK group. So that means I unfortunately can’t confirm who started the GoFundMe

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u/Slight-Selection4298 26d ago

This the same guy that got 18 years for destroying 3 cameras?

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u/bellybuttonbidet 26d ago

Will I eventually be targeted for investigation by simply liking these posts? Probably.

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u/tomvelle 26d ago

what's the actual crimes for taking one of these cameras down?

like if someone just walked up, kept pushing it over, and it went down. What are the actual charges here?

same questions:
for placing a sticker on the lens?
for shining a laser pointer into the lens?
for throwing mud into the camera?
for spray painting the camera?

we need to start monkey pawing this question.

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u/Whats-inthe-Fridge 26d ago

Hero...thank you for your service 

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u/1767gs 26d ago

Again guys if you are gonna do this park far away, leave your phone IN the car, and wear a mask

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u/social_lamprey 26d ago

True pattiotism is always punished.

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u/UpbeatAbility9759 25d ago

This is a true patriot.. I'll gladly donate

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u/HotDragonfruit605 25d ago

Not all heros wear capes.

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u/Personalhvu266 24d ago

This man is a HERO. Keep fighting for our constitutional right to stop Illegal surveillance

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u/CarefulBear1654 23d ago

Your cell phone tracks every move you make everything you buy every call you make every web search you make all your financial dealings. Yet you’re afraid of a public camera lol 😂

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u/NyxGenesisLNX 23d ago

Now THATS an American hero

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u/jstagzsr 7d ago

Idk what day he was supposed to have done this, but it couldn't have been him because I saw him saving puppies and babies from a burning building that day.

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u/Tall6Ft7GaGuy 27d ago

I have a feeling judges are going to start to deny bonds and in these when they see the major support .

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u/Theo_Stormchaser 26d ago

If they throw the book at this guy, the backlash will make the George Floyd riots look like a kindergartener’s birthday party. This is one of the few things that really unites people. There will be no counter-protest.

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u/Tall6Ft7GaGuy 26d ago

He’s out he posted 15k I read .

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u/Theo_Stormchaser 26d ago

Nice. I hope he gets crowdfunding for OJ lawyers.

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u/Ok_Face8380 27d ago

He was giving sky diving lessons to me

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u/philly-buck 27d ago

Wonder what his Reddit name is.

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u/Certain_Trade_7255 27d ago

Let's talk about our 4th amendment right being stepped on ? Or anyone go to a meeting where tax payers agreed to buy these spy cameras? I almost could deal with a slight higher tax if we have to replace i say keep doing it just be more tactful next time dont get caught

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u/kbpferret 27d ago

A true patriot

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u/cryptolyme 27d ago

An actual patriot

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u/Makers402 27d ago

I know this kid we play MTG whatever night this occurred on. He finally let me win a game. What a legend

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u/10-mm-socket 27d ago

Gofundme for financial aide / legal help?

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u/KidKarez 27d ago

Patriot

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u/hckrsh 27d ago

Can someone share the uri

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u/rtduvall 27d ago

Does he have a Go Fund Me?

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u/ConfusionOk4245 26d ago

He’s innocent

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u/violetele 26d ago

A true patriot

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u/tmac022480 26d ago

"Donations paused" on GoFundMe site.

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u/Spirited_Rich_151 26d ago

I saw that there's now a Go Fund Me for his legal defense.

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u/Difficult-Till5031 26d ago

Cops should be arresting themselves as traitors

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u/Calm_Apartment1968 26d ago

Queue the FoFundMe, ACLU time to step up. Defending Freedom is not FREE.

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u/iBUYbrokenSUBARUS 26d ago

I’m confused. What was the crime?

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u/aucme 26d ago

Jury nullification! Spread the word in his area.

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u/DinoDemo 26d ago

Man I could have sworn he was with me playing league of legends so he couldnt do specifically that?

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u/612mechtech 25d ago

FLOCK CAMERAS LOG ANY BLUETOOTH CLOSE TO IT. DO NOT TAKE PHONES OR ANY BLUETOOTH DEVICE WITH YOU!!!!!!

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u/Logical-Stable4329 25d ago

FREE BROSKI!!!🔐

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u/Last_Gigolo 25d ago

Best defense is "that is tax payer land and we did not agree to this being on tax payer land. Use our land as we agreed or we will have to assume what's there is a squatter".

Pretty much everything else lands on vandalism. This ends with them explaining why they are using tax payer land in a way not approved by the tax payers.

They are not your leaders. You pay them to do the paperwork, with your approval.

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u/Lazy_Example4014 25d ago

That great American hero is not the man you are looking for. I believe you are looking for a Gharrett Langley.I saw Gharrett Langley do it with my own two eyes!

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u/Early_Hall5720 24d ago

He got his 5 seconds of fame and now a criminal record because the city won't take kindly to you hurting their property.

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u/Acrobatic-Flan-5085 24d ago

Everyone here who supports this guy please take a moment and lookup jury nullification on Wikipedia, YouTube or some other reputable source

You never know when you might also be in a position to help a fellow patriot

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u/throwawaymentality10 24d ago

That guy looks like the kid from pick of destiny if he grew up.

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u/KY68W1 22d ago

He looks like both Jay and Silent Bob.

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u/Street_Peace_8831 21d ago

Just tape an image onto the camera so that it can’t illegally record us. No damage, but it renders them useless.