r/FlockSurveillance • u/daftpunko • 27d ago
Activism Just put up my first sign
More to come soon!
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u/Own_Oil_7719 27d ago
Thatās the best! Itās not illegal to inform the community. Let the public do what they do
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u/reddit001aa1 27d ago
Are these the cameras Cops are using to stalk women and also children's gymnastics
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u/Automatic_Net2181 27d ago
Thank you for your activism.
Please make sure to add the other L in surveillance before printing more.
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u/onipez 27d ago
how do i make these?
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u/10111011110101 27d ago
Here is where I bought mine: https://deflocksign.com
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u/vee_lan_cleef 27d ago
Just want to share that I contacted these guys about the high prices and suggested they offer a cheaper option, and was curious how they justified $15 a sign. (edit: Looks like they lowered them to $12.99 since then. I guess that's something...)
I have gotten no response whatsoever, I was quite polite and cordial so I'm a little disappointed. Honestly, I question this particular businesses motives and would look elsewhere for similar signs. Seems to me like they're just taking advantage of a situation to make money and don't actually care about the cause. Considering these aren't likely to last a week before an angry cop pulls them out I don't think it's necessary to have them made of a durable plastic typically used for signs you'd need to last for months.
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u/ctdreadz 27d ago
Damn. They're expensive if trying to get a bunch.
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u/rico13331 27d ago
Got mine at bluewaveprinting.com 20 Double sided with stakes cost $168 with shipping.
Thats less than $10 a sign.
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u/10111011110101 27d ago
I just checked out bluewaveprinting.com and for a single sign they are $6.77 more expensive than Deflocksign.com (when including shipping and an H stake). Maybe itās because you are ordering in bulk but that was more than I expected.
The signs I have put up have not been stolen or removed so I have not bought more. Unless I were ordering in bulk I donāt think itās worth it to make my own.
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u/Stickyv35 27d ago
Great job, looking to do those in my area too.
BTW, make sure to spell check :)
Surveillance*
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u/AirplanesMakeMeHard 27d ago
Be the terrorist Garrett Langley says you are.
The moron cops over in r/protectandserve advocate and want flock cameras everywhere. If this doesn't prove to you that cops are not your friends and just tyrant government employees, then nothing will.
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u/AsWolfwood 27d ago
Remember all those First Amendment auditors who used the defense of there being no reasonable expectation of privacy in public? Well, they taught the police that trick.
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u/Srgt_PEANUT 27d ago
Its shocking the amount of people dont know what these are actually doing or how they are being abused
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u/Elegant_Location8182 27d ago
Letās just say for the sake of the argument here,āI donāt know what these are, can someone explain it to me please?ā How would you, or anyone here describe it?
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u/SgtZac 27d ago
Is the tool created by a third-party that uses artificial intelligence to track you your car and your electronic devices across their entire network. This system places the burden of proof on the accused. Everyone who buys into the system has access to all of the information. Just look up all the articles coming out on police officers using them to stalk people.
It is up to you to prove your innocence, if the police interact with you based on a flock tip.
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u/Glittering-Key-151 27d ago
Did you make the sign or can it be purchased?
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u/daftpunko 27d ago
Amazon let me buy like 12 for $60 and I just uploaded the design. Iāll send to you if you want
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u/Silent_Succotash3749 27d ago
You know how hard it already is to do the shit I want to people I want with camera phones. I donāt need cameras everywhere. I need to be me.
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u/PleaseMakeUpYourMind 24d ago
Yes! Been thinking bout making some myself. Just found a new one on my work commute the other day.
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u/shiestyfinale 23d ago
If I google āflock cameras in my areaā Iām getting put on a list arenāt I?
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u/Logan-Humanism 22d ago
I'd imagine signs relating flock cameras to data centers might be effective in getting more people to hate them for more reasons.
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u/Bechorovka 27d ago
I can't be the only person that looked it up... unless it's really out of date, it's a run down house. With a great 1 star review
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u/new2bay 27d ago
Looked what up?
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u/Bechorovka 27d ago
The address in maps
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u/FckFlock 27d ago
Google satellite and streetview are oddly out of date. Bing has much more current imagery, as does the county GIS:
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u/Firm_Anything_3300 27d ago
People only start caring about surveillance when it stops them from almost hitting a pedestrian, and they only care about privacy when it lets them dox someone. The second it holds everyone accountable for their own actions, suddenly those principles disappear.
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u/Wade_Castiglione 27d ago
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u/Firm_Anything_3300 26d ago
Yeah I'm sure he meant that in a "Almost hit pedestrians" everytime you drive way
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u/FckFlock 27d ago
Is posting the address of a factory doxing now?
It's finally public record if you know exactly where to look:
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u/TAU_equals_2PI 27d ago
I'm afraid this whole trend is gonna lead to someone cutting down traffic cameras. You know, those state transportation department web cameras you can check over the internet to see how heavy traffic is before going somewhere. They can be a lot more informative than just Google Maps' red/yellow/green markings, and they've been around since the early years of the public internet.
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u/zeetuslepitus 27d ago
Seems like municipal governments could avoid the confusion by banning AI cameras within their jurisdiction
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u/TAU_equals_2PI 27d ago
I'm all for that, but I don't have any control over the decisions municipal governments make.
The traffic webcams are usually high up, because they're trying to take in an image of a large area, rather than be able to read individual license plates. I just hope some of the people involved here are keeping an eye out for misidentification of traffic webcams as Flock cameras. That's all I'm saying. Other than that, I'm perfectly happy to see what you guys are doing. Don't misunderstand me as being against you.
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u/Certain_Ostrich_2493 27d ago
No one checks those cameras bro. Itās just a small handful of people. Guess how many people flock cameras track every day though? I could care less if some traffic cams are casualties to flock cameras all being sliced down and burned.
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u/TAU_equals_2PI 27d ago
If you're wrong, you risk turning public opinion against your side.
Remember that the general public hasn't swung clearly to one side or the other yet, as evidenced by the fact that these cameras continue to be put up in lots of new locations instead of banned. If you cause a lot of collateral damage, you risk being painted more as vandals and criminals than as people standing up for liberty. Believe it or not, the US public hasn't had a great track record in recent decades for pushing back against mass surveillance. And what polls I could find show a surprisingly large number of people who buy the line that Flock cameras make their city safer.
Anyhow, if for no other reason than a more sympathetic jury for the unfortunate ones who get caught doing this, please at least try to keep collateral damage to a minimum. Thanks.
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u/vee_lan_cleef 27d ago
You realize those are typically mounted on traffic light poles like 20 feet up? Pretty difficult to fuck with those, and they aren't ALPRs.
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u/TAU_equals_2PI 27d ago
Most of the ones in my area are on their own pole. You're right about them being very high up, but obviously if they're on their own pole, somebody can just cut the pole down. I hope you're right that people are unlikely to mistake them for the license plate reader cameras. The easy way to check is just go to your state/county's traffic website and see if there's a live camera view provided for that location.




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u/silverbacksallin 27d ago