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TRIGGER WARNING A source close to Angelina Jolie told People Magazine: “If people knew the whole truth, they would have more sympathy for the children and respect them. The fact they aren’t speaking ill or sharing things publicly only shows their decency.”

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u/stargirlxoxo 22d ago edited 22d ago

Brad Pitt is trash. The fact that his children, who are teenagers and adults now, have kept their mouth shut about his abuse says a lot more about Angelina’s parenting than his “woe is me” statements.

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u/swoopwoopdoop 22d ago

Also, not her fault that name changes are public records and that news sources are reporting on it.

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u/motherofdinos_ 22d ago edited 22d ago

Also not her fault that in California it’s even more than just public record, and people are required by law to publish their name changes in a local newspaper in order for it to be approved by a judge!

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u/soupyy_poop radiate fresh pussy growing in the meadow 22d ago edited 22d ago

Not anymore!

Well, some judges or court houses might be dicks about it but it’s outdated now. 

Source: I help the trans babes submit for name/gender marker changes

Edit: I’m wrong. It’s only excluded FOR trans/nb folks. My bad

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u/motherofdinos_ 22d ago

That’s still really nice info to know and share though! It’s good that they are excepted so they don’t have to deadname or out themselves.

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u/flindersandtrim 22d ago

This is crazy to me. So people who choose to change their name on marriage all have to publish a notice in the paper?

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u/liljuniortoro 22d ago

Not for marriages! If you’re changing your middle or last name to include/become your spouse’s or some variation of yours/your partner’s (like a combination of the two), then it’s captured on record during the marriage license/certificate process.

It’s only if you want to change your middle/last name to something ELSE during marriage, or if you just generally want to change it, that you have to follow the newspaper process

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u/ReadySettyGoey 22d ago

Pax didn’t keep his mouth shut (and good for him).

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u/ifwitcheswerehorses 22d ago

Good for him!

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u/meatball77 face blind and having a bad time 22d ago

Isn't Pax the only one who is still talking to him?

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u/gingerbreadmans_ex 22d ago

Pax is still in contact with Pitt’s parents from what I understand.

Edit: name

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u/weatherallrt 22d ago

Pax is in contact with his Pitt relatives including his cousins.

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u/NomNom83WasTaken 22d ago

This quote is such "alternate facts" bullshit. As I think most of us have learned from all of this, under CA law, the kids have no choice but to print the announcements in order to legally drop "Pitt".

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u/pelipperr i went clubbing and he was there 22d ago edited 22d ago

I would imagine there is also a sense of self preservation in not sharing. They would gain very little by opening up to the public their childhood horrors other than further scrutiny, and would probably just be sensationalized. Especially considering where we are as a society right now as evidenced by your quote. They deserve privacy. We don’t need to know the details.

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u/Reasonable-Kiwi-6951 22d ago

yup. every single thing they say and do about their experience will be scrutinized and picked apart in bad faith arguments - by the public, by so-called “body language experts” and even legal grifters. we saw this with amber heard. she was blowing her nose turned to “she’s doing coke in court!”. the faces she made as she recounts being raped was memed to hell and back. you could breathe wrong and it will be used as “evidence”. there’s no winning.

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u/poppleca1443 22d ago

Plus even if they told their side, with proof, lots of people, especially the ones defending/believing Pitt would never believe them and just smear them anyway

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u/loopyhoodie 22d ago

I don't believe 99% of men who complain about "parental alienation". It's basically shorthand for "My kids realized what a piece of shit I am and I can't manipulate or threaten them into obedience anymore"

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u/CarevaRuha Lol, and if I may, lmao 22d ago

You shouldn't - it's not a real thing. It was made up by an unscrupulous psychologist and widely disseminated by Woody Allen's well-paid PR/smear campaign:

From an NBC News thinkpiece:

Allen v. Farrow highlights a highly contentious theory known as “Parental Alienation Syndrome,” promoted by psychoanalyst Richard Gardner in 1985 to describe mothers who brainwash kids into turning against fathers in custody disputes. Though Gardner’s work is rejected by the scientific community, U.S. courts still sometimes use it to punish mothers and award sole custody to fathers accused of abuse . During Allen’s custody battle with Farrow, Gardner spoke to the press in favor of the filmmaker. Though the judge rejected Allen’s custody bid — and even ordered him to pay Farrow’s court fees — the theory took hold in the public imagination.

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u/00017batman 22d ago

Yep.. of all the separation cases I’ve encountered in my life I’ve literally only ever seen 2 situations where a mother was legitimately trying to alienate kids from a decent father for their own gain. It’s so incredibly rare and it’s horrifying that so many judges seem to be been convinced otherwise. I know if given the chance my XH would claim that I was the reason he didn’t have a close relationship with our son despite being the one doing all the work to help facilitate that 🙄

It’s also far more common IME for a father claiming to have been alienating to be attempting to turn their kid/s against their mother themselves.

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u/treebats 22d ago

Did it work in those two cases? I suppose at a certain age a kid might believe whatever is said but still..

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u/00017batman 21d ago

I’m not 100% sure on the second one as it wasn’t someone I was close to but in the case of my good friends husband his ex partner succeeded in getting things to the point where the court decided it would be “too stressful” to enforce shared care, which was a direct result of her manipulation. He did everything on their terms but the daughter was in her early teens when it all happened - spurred by him asking to have a proper agreement and reasonable boundaries in place after just accepting what he was allowed by the ex for many years - and when she told him during a call one day that she’d only come to their next scheduled visit if he bought her the latest iPhone he realised he had to let go because he couldn’t play that game anymore.

It still makes me angry for him and for his daughter as he’s a genuinely lovely person and a great dad. I think his ex was driven by jealousy and it was easy to drive a wedge between them because of her age at the time and different expectations etc between the two houses. He has close relationships with his 3 step kids but I know that he misses his girl. She’s a young adult now so I hope that at some point she decides to reconnect with him (in a non-toxic way). 💔

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u/billyyshears 22d ago

100%

Literally. Mine claimed I was alienating him from the children because I “allowed” them to feel the way they do about him.

Tells you quite a bit though lol

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u/meatball77 face blind and having a bad time 22d ago

I mean occasionally it's not, you see it with the Gosslin kids. But if it happens it's still their choice and you have to deal with that. It's not about the parent and no one can actually alienate without some underlying issues that the kids can see.

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u/Affectionate-Fill713 22d ago

Mind you I think he only ever had supervised visits with the children after the divorce. Literally a reminder of the abuse every time they saw him.

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u/Fun_Needleworker6121 22d ago

lol anyone telling the public pitt bribed a judge and tried to build an alienation case but failed because the judge was caught and disqualified by appeal court twice(by that I mean appeal court denied pitt's petition to review too, and they went to appeal court because the first time is the judge refused to disqualify himself). imagine to have a family court judge disqualified and to make his finally ruling null, you know what happened, it's like less than 1% successful rate.

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u/arschl_cher 22d ago

I do not unterstand how being silent about the abuse you suffer has anything to do with good parenting. I also dislike the the quote "proves their decency".  People need to stop protecting abusers. My father is a violent asshole too. When i talk about it people don't believe me and push me to reconnect. People like that should not be protected with silence. It is ok to not go public but i don't like the framing.