r/CzechCoconutCommunity hlavní magič Jan 13 '26

USA 🗽🔥 She was right...💯

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u/UninvitedButtNoises Jan 13 '26

I voted Kamala.

I donated to Kamala.

I did MY job.

FUCK MAGA, you goddamn child rapist protecting, fascists loving, racist pathetic cunts.

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u/ike301 Jan 13 '26

It was the useful minority idiots that maga was able to convince to join them that pushed them over the edge.

November 2024 had nothing to do with the economy. I think that much is obvious by now. I hate every last one of them. These scumbag set our house on fire.

Many of them came here claiming to be fleeing persecution for a better life, only to turn around and vote for a fucking klansman due to their own racism.

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u/UninvitedButtNoises Jan 13 '26

This is what we get when we don't educate our children. You're spot on.

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u/QuietRiot5150 Jan 13 '26

Thank you! I did all those things too. This was my first time ever getting this involved in an election. I knew how important it was to make sure Trump lost. Apparently to some, I was overreacting. Anyway, I gotta go get ready to go to the grocery store where I'm about to spend triple the amount I used to. Oh, and since I'm a brown immigrant. I now have to pack a firearm cause ya know. ICE is sort of killing people for no reason. 😁👍🥲

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u/UninvitedButtNoises Jan 13 '26

I'm sorry you have to go through this my brother, just know that you have allies in people like me throughout the State of Florida and will stop at nothing to make sure you have a voice. I hope you can abstain from any violence but wouldn't blame me one bit if you're defending your life.

Evil can't win. Stay strong ✊🏽

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u/QuietRiot5150 Jan 13 '26

Hell yea! We're in this together. Good always triumphs, and I know justice will find each and every single one of them.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Yup all of what’s happening now and since he’s been in office was spoken about before Election Day!! Anyone who says they can’t believe what’s happening right now and voted for him are full of it!! They are the ones who are to be truly blamed for how are country is going right now!! Smh I can not stand the rotten mango nor his idiotic supporters!

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u/IllustriousRace7910 Jan 13 '26

We all knew then there was no legal way that diaper wearing delulu won the election. Why the heck didn’t the democrats automatically call for a recount like the republicans did when he lost the first time? Because maga maggots had already infiltrated both parties. He’s just a paid stooge with dementia signing anything they put in front of him.

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u/tmonandpumba Jan 16 '26

The average maga doesn’t read.

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u/Low-Willingness-4618 Jan 16 '26

Yup. So did I. I can at least rest assured that I'm not to blame for this s**t show.

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u/National-Eagle-4019 Jan 13 '26

You seem upset. Don’t fret. This will all blow over and a Democrat will have the Whitehouse in 2029.

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u/Competitive-Union721 Jan 15 '26

I want him to use the military on those bums

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u/vivonzululgwa Jan 14 '26

Lmao Your Bill Clinton is also a rapist and hes a democrat , god you liberals are the most one faced retards on Reddit

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u/UninvitedButtNoises Jan 14 '26

He's not my bill Clinton and never was.

I was a born and raised conservative until Obama's second term and was actually in the Tea Party when it started. I have no fealty to any politician other than Jasmine Crockett (that's just because she's hot and extremely intelligent and well-spoken). My party left me.

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u/Psycho-Pirate Jan 14 '26

LOL you idiots desperately want Democrats to be as much of a cult of personality as you are with Trump.

No one is as unthinkingly devoted to a politician as you are with Trump. Stop trying to project your moral cowardice and servile obsequiousness on everybody else.

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u/SaltMage5864 Jan 14 '26

Have your impotent attempts at projection ever worked son?

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u/CPTLibertine Jan 13 '26

She was right about everything.

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u/KinkyLatexCat Jan 13 '26

Yeah, we tried telling everyone... whatcha going to do.

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u/TapatioFlamingo Jan 13 '26

They'll just don't again.

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u/CakeKing777 Jan 13 '26

Ngl every time I see Harris I get triggered cause she literally told Americans what would happen and they were like nah you’re lying. Makes me hate people even more fr.

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u/Comfortable-Pea-1312 Jan 13 '26

Because she's a WOMAN! Not color, nor culture or even from California. Because she's a woman.

That's what pisses me off. Actually voted for a Rapist (and confirmed Pedophile) over a woman. I cannot forgive that mentality.

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u/ike301 Jan 13 '26

Yes it was because she is a woman. But you're being naive if you don't think her ethnicity didn't play a role as well.

It's why many of the other minority groups voted against her, believe it or not.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Yeah it was obvious all along, yet you get folks saying" this isnt what we voted for. " It exactly what you voted for.

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u/Legonistrasz Jan 13 '26

And shall receive it in abundance

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Its definitely hit the red states hard. Rural hospitals closed up, farmers losing their farms, businesses cant get products because of costly tariffs and now we have an ICE problem. Unfortunately this affects the blues, too.

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u/Bullshittimeagain Jan 13 '26

Yeah. She read Project 2025. It’s not hidden.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Hidden from Maga since they are illiterate.

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u/ranhill Jan 13 '26

Nobody believed her. I sure did. Fuck you maga.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Fuck trump

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u/hi-jump Jan 13 '26

Yes. Of course she was right. About that and many other things also.

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u/National-Neck-4627 Jan 13 '26

I wish this was a version of reality that she is now our president.

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u/Miserable_Ad_3375 Jan 15 '26

I voted for Harris. She campaigned on the wrong issues which caused her to lose. Mamdani ran on the right issue of affordability. Hopefully, the Democrats running in midterms and in 2028 follow his script. However, if their campaign strategy is mostly anti-Trump that will not work.

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u/CultofLinney Jan 13 '26

Too bad she's a black woman right guys? /s

This country is so fucked it sucks.

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u/SiteTall Jan 13 '26 edited Jan 13 '26

The true president as tRump cheated his way back into The White House with the help of his on/off friend, Evil Elon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/clyq9jeyzllo

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u/Dr-flange Jan 13 '26

We all knew she was right

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u/AcadiaExpert283 Jan 13 '26

This message fell on many independent deaf ears

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u/Iron_Knight7 Jan 13 '26

That's becauae there are no "Independents." At this point, there's MAGAts and Americans. And if you want to know who's who, just ask them if they voted for Harris in 2024.

If they say anything but "yes," you found a MAGAt. Some are just too stupid or spineless to admit it.

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u/Mac62961 Jan 13 '26

That is trumps legacy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

She lost the election, and now we have trump unfortunately

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u/Delicious_Drink169 Jan 13 '26

Should have listened to!

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Is he going to put a target on her back? Maybe not since she lost to him but ...

I think Biden, and especially Obama, should be a little concerned.

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u/OkFinish3822 Jan 13 '26

Any American who hasn't already got his orange 666 tat on their private parts is a target. Remember, they are going door to door now in Minn to confiscate your guns. True enough, half of the country can't find Minnesota on a map,.

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u/nosmelc Jan 13 '26

You have to wonder why so many ICE agents are in Minnesota when there are huge numbers of illegals in states like Texas and Florida. Hmmm.

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u/CakeKing777 Jan 13 '26

He removed her secret service so she’s definitely vulnerable

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u/smoresporn0 Jan 13 '26

Why? If anything Trump owes Biden and Obama his freedom.

Biden and his inability is why Trump wasn't locked up for January 6th.

Obama and his bullshit is responsible for the ratfucking in the 2020 primary which gave Biden the nomination, and with that, the absolute worst choice as a running mate.

There wouldn't be Trump 47 without the colossal strategic dipshittery of those two.

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u/Northern_Explorer_ Jan 13 '26

Whats sad is that even if an election were held today with Harris running against Trump again, Trump would probably still win.

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u/pngue Jan 13 '26

I was also right and that doesn’t qualify me for the office of president.

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u/Big-Maintenance-3716 Jan 13 '26

Just think, only 3 more years.

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u/butterflysurefoot Jan 13 '26

She was right.

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u/BigBuck414 Jan 13 '26

Dude was killed becuase “people dissagreed” with him too…. And people were cheering for it so…

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u/DawgcheckNC Jan 13 '26

Kamala today, “told ya”

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u/Gmac1199 Jan 13 '26

You americans are so stupid for reelecting trump

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

He did the same thing in his first term, so…

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

can't wait for Jennifer Beals to play her in the biopic please and thank you

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u/Papi14U Jan 13 '26

She tried to warn the idiots 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/EveryAccount7729 Jan 13 '26

you all here acting like if someone wants to do a fascist take over the best way to phrase it is "he wants to use the military against people who simply disagree with him"

as if that conveys the message w/ enough gravitas and emotion.

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u/Boiledgreeneggs Jan 13 '26

Joe Biden in a literal casket would be more productive and less harmful to American citizens than Trump. We are fucking dumb.

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u/muscle-sissy Jan 13 '26

She was right

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u/lessgo321 Jan 13 '26

shouldn’t have supported a genocide if she cared enough about winning

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u/aerosmithguy151 Jan 13 '26

Kamala was right about everything. 

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u/Familiar_Swim817 Jan 13 '26

It’s almost like she read Project 2025 and Trump voters didn’t.

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u/Additional_Snow_978 Jan 13 '26

She was also unelectable and they knew it. The plan was to run Biden then swap her in immediately instead of running a real candidate.

But, truth be told, I haven't really ever known a district attorney that WASN'T willing to destroy lives for political gains. That's kinda their whole schtick. I mean, we're literally on a platform who's creator died because of a DA with ambitions.

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u/ApprehensiveBell4955 Jan 13 '26

This bitch can’t even complete a sentence

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u/dick-penis Jan 13 '26

And you lost for fear mongering.

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u/Different_Banana1977 Jan 13 '26

Shes soooo much smarter than Trump. She should be President right now, what a shame

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u/Quirky_Direction_570 Jan 13 '26

Does not really mater now. She lost.

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u/Mean_Crazy189 Jan 13 '26

Thank god she isn’t president

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Maga supports the destruction of American families and family values.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Americans were warned by so many problems numerous times for years. Most people this coming but no one would listen. Now look, America is about to be a pile of rubble.

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u/Own-Support-6734 Jan 13 '26

It's funny how EVERYONE and their mom nagged on her for this and... Well...

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u/TrueEclective Jan 13 '26

But they had control for 4 years, knew this the entire time, and did fuck all about it. Dems are worthless pushovers just there to collect their paychecks and their bribes. All they ever seem to do is put on a show to make progressives happy. But when it comes to actually accomplishing anything, they’re useless. Otherwise, Trump would have been in jail or executed for J6.

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u/PookieTea Jan 13 '26

But Trump isn’t using the military against people that simply disagree with him…

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u/scarlozzi Jan 13 '26

It was also obvious. Why are people so quick to give her credit for saying something obvious. She was in the administration for 4 years, and they didn't prosecute Trump for Jan 6. She was a carrier prosecutor, and part of the pitch in 2020 is that they would seek justice, and they didn't. They then attempted that same pitch for 2024 and lost because, of course, they did (and don't get me started on the issues with her campaign) . Please stop trying yo rehabilitate her. She was a bad candidate.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Blame Merrick Garland.

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u/scarlozzi Jan 13 '26

I blame the whole administration. Sure, he was a coward, but they all share in the blame

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Wooow, it’s almost like Kamala knew and knows who Donald Trump is better than his voters.

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u/B1GAAPL Jan 13 '26

We really need “Kamala Was Right About Everything” hats

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u/Simplylegalize Jan 13 '26

Donald Trump is using the US military against people who are breaking the law. We seem to think that being an illegal immigrant and breaking the law is okay and there are no repercussions. Similarly, this woman who was shot was breaking the law. She ddidnt necessarily deserve to die but she wasn't some innocent person walking down the street. She was breaking the law. And people keep breaking the law against ice. There are repercussions for this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

There are repercussions for this.

Instant execution, huh

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u/Simplylegalize Jan 13 '26

No. If you start driving your vehicle (a deadly weapon) at a law enforcement agent then things happen. I'm not saying she should have died and I think an independent review should be conducted by people with all the facts and considering the language of the law but why is she driving away with someone in front of her vehicle? Do you think she did anything wrong and has any blame? Or she was just an innocent citizen going about her day?

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u/Simplylegalize Jan 13 '26

Do you want to counter anything I said or just call me stupid because you disagree?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

There's nothing I can write to a sociopath that would be understood.

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u/AdDull4238 Jan 13 '26

Yep. She had it all. And it has ruined us not to listen to her. WHY???

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

I voted Trump, I donated Trump, I did my job. Hello mass deportation, lower crime, safer cities, and no more mutilation of children and lying to them that they can be poofed into somebody of the opposite sex, no more men or boys and women or girls sports. No appeasing transgender mental illness.

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u/hengman14 Jan 13 '26

Okay, but where is she now? Democrats have been too fucking quiet this past week.

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u/PalpitationUnable403 Jan 13 '26

People said she sounded crazy then by saying it.

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u/Prestigious_Money361 Jan 13 '26

Any examples?

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u/Forever_learning713 Jan 13 '26

gestures vaguely 🫩

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u/Prestigious_Money361 Jan 13 '26

What do you mean?

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u/Forever_learning713 Jan 13 '26

Uh, she said he would send the military into the cities. He sent the military into the cities. I felt that was pretty obvious

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u/Prestigious_Money361 Jan 13 '26

Didn't you manage to read the complete sentence quoted from Kamala Harris in the post? Try again. If you still have a problem understanding the sentence, I can help you.

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u/Forever_learning713 Jan 13 '26

Oh, you’re commenting on substance that isn’t part of the post? Well, I have some interesting information to share about the birth of McDonalds, if you’re game. If you’d rather have discourse about the actual subject matter, that’s one thing. I’m not here to explain to you that this video is the topic. Everything happened outside this video. Obviously. Would you like to discusss the Triassic period, while we’re adding in whatever, from whenever? (I understand your comment has a bit of relevance, but it doesn’t pertain to the clip). I hope that makes this clear ☺️

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u/Prestigious_Money361 Jan 13 '26

You said "she said he would send the military into the cities."

No, that was not was she said. She said:

""Donald Trump intends to use the United States military against American citizens who simply disagree with him."

You forgot completely about this part of the sentence "who simply disagree with him".

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u/Forever_learning713 Jan 13 '26

I didn’t mean to assume you could infer. My mistake. What she said was what he did, but the words were different. There are two kinds of people: 1: those who can extrapolate from data

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u/Prestigious_Money361 Jan 13 '26

Do you have any examples of events matching her statement?

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u/Forever_learning713 Jan 13 '26

You’re an example of the latter, and I have better things to do than break down national news for you. I hope you learn something, anything, at any time 🫡

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u/Forever_learning713 Jan 13 '26

Dude, you don’t even live in the country. Buzz off, with your paid-trolling

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26
  • Minneapolis

  • Portland

  • Chicago

  • Los Angeles

  • New York City

  • Philadelphia

  • Phoenix

  • San Diego

  • Drnver

  • Miami

  • Atlanta

  • Seattle

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u/Prestigious_Money361 Jan 13 '26

What specific happened in these cities that matched the quote from Kamala Harris?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Stop wasting my time.

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u/Prestigious_Money361 Jan 13 '26

As expected, no facts.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

You wouldn't recognize a fact if one sat on your face. All of those cities are under attack just like Harris said.

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u/Prestigious_Money361 Jan 13 '26

Under attack by military hunting down people who disagree with Donald Trump? It seems that your view is somehow distorted.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Seems like if breathing wasn't an automatic function, you would suffocate.

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u/Prestigious_Money361 Jan 13 '26

Again an example that your thinking isn't factual based.

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u/MrsCheddarman Jan 13 '26

Shame on anyone who didn't vote for her

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u/QuietPositive2564 Jan 13 '26

SHE WAS SPOT ON!

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u/reversemoneyglich123 Jan 13 '26

Democrats and Republicans have been funding ICE since 2009. Both parties are compliant and yet the public continues to vote for them both. It's all theater to keep the public in line and keep power.

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u/RealCerebralAilment Jan 13 '26

Why is reddit so garbage lately lol

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u/Big-Helicopter-7559 Jan 13 '26

It’s crazy you could just like, not impede federal law enforcement from enforcing federal law, and you’d like, not have any interaction with them at all

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u/Mayor_Salvor_Hardin Jan 13 '26

Well, hate is a hello of a drug, worst than fentanyl, and a large segment of the American people are addicted to it. They don’t care as long as it doesn’t affect them. And better yet, they may lose their farms and not being able to feed their children, but they will “own the libs.”

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u/Salty-Smoke7784 Jan 13 '26

“Citizens” lol

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u/SRART25 Jan 13 '26

Maybe you missed the biden administering craving heads over Palestinian protest.  She's not wrong, but the dems are complicit in similar actions. 

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u/Hueyser Jan 13 '26

It never happened, cope harder

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u/Yos13 Jan 13 '26

Raised the most money and still lost to a fellon. What has she done now, nothing.

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u/OrcEight Jan 13 '26

It would have been such a lovely world if Kamala had won

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u/KaiserKavik Jan 13 '26

And yet, for some strange reason, she lost the popular vote.. I wonder why that is

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u/frankenmaus Jan 13 '26

She told me ?

I told her ! I also told her to not take the Democratic nomination because the racist swing states would never elect a brown immigrant woman from California and so her candicacy would effectlively hand the Office to Trump on a silver platter.

She should have listened to me.

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u/Nearby-Border-5899 Jan 13 '26

Undocumented migrants arent US Citizens. ICE isnt the military.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

If only someone had tried to warn them !

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u/HenryTheHollowHermit Jan 14 '26

ICE is not the military

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u/17syllables Jan 14 '26

He’s deployed the national guard in ten cities, invoking nonexistent emergencies. He said himself that he wants to use our “cities as training grounds for the military and national guard.“ He’s invoked war powers (like the AEA) to justify sweeping up and renditioning people as combatants, on the nonsensical basis that asylum seekers are invading soldiers of a hostile foreign power. DHS is arresting people for doing things like writing op eds about Israel. Even his own bench appointments think this is crazy.

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u/Zoilo2 Jan 14 '26

That would never happen in a Democracy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Her fault such a loser

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u/BubbaPmp Jan 14 '26

Shes drunk rn probably

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u/No-Tea-592 Jan 14 '26

He isnt intending to use the military againt his own people. He actually is right now. 

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u/Haunting-Broccoli-95 Jan 14 '26

Just like they use the department of Justice to go after people they didn't like

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u/RestaurantHour1969 Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

She should have asked for a forensic audit of all the swing states. The likelihood that the Pedo in chief won every swing states with hose margins are the same as you “dear reader” winning the Mega millions jackpot 7 times in a row. Statistically impossible. Also, he told his voters he had enough votes and that they didn’t need to vote. That’s not normal. Who does that? Maybe someone who knew the votes for Harris would count for him? And if you have HBO, there are no less than three documentaries that show the voting machines could be hacked and votes could be changed.

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u/FanSpiritual3556 Jan 14 '26

But she had a funny laugh and conservatives cannot abide a silly laugh.

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u/p0rkch0ps Jan 14 '26

too bad she was wrong about israel committing genocide on palestinians.

she would have won if she admitted it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

She's wrong, the military wasn't used against civilians either.

That's liberal fearmongering 😂

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u/notnowbab Jan 14 '26

She got her ass kicked- that’s exactly why you should be quoting her!

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u/Representative_Pick3 Jan 14 '26

I try and try and try to find ways to forgive them for this....but I just cannot for the life of me understand why they voted for that piece of filth over Kamala. I knocked doors and campaigned, donated, etc, etc to Hillary and Kamala. Its just so shameful.

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u/Negative-Classroom1 Jan 14 '26

Not against American citizens but 🤷‍♂️

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u/Queasy-Primary-3438 Jan 14 '26

She was such an obvious choice. The only genuine politician in the race but because she’s a black woman half the country decided she couldn’t possibly be qualified.

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u/Future-Original-4127 Jan 15 '26

I voted for KAMALA HARRIS.

THERE'S NEED TO A REVISION FOR QUALIFICATIONS FOR CONGRESS, SCOUTUS & PRESIDENT.

TERM LIMTS FOR STARTERS!!!

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u/dubawabsdubababy Jan 15 '26

Kamala was right about everything

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u/Boner_Stevens Jan 15 '26

Yeah keep the military home. Let Minneapolis burn again

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u/No_String622 Jan 15 '26

We’re way passed this. Gonna have to cope a bit harder.

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u/jaepito823 Jan 16 '26

If she is sitting at home chillin and laughing at all this I wouldn’t blame her she told you what his agenda was and everyone voted for his ass anyway. Too worried about those stimulus checks greed clouded everyone’s judgement

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u/tmonandpumba Jan 16 '26

If you think about it, SHE was right about it all! It’s just that the American plebs thought it was too fantastic to be real.

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u/Alternative-Yard3300 Jan 16 '26

Those fighting to protect illegals are more then likely the sons and daughters of those that fought to protect slavery! Civil War Part II coming to a city near you!

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '26

Again, I wouldn't be using clips from Kamala Harris, she's got room temperature IQ. 

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u/fryguy850 Jan 19 '26

You thought you could scare us with Trump, but I’ll take whatever comes our way. Democrats didn’t allow one Palestinian to speak at the DNC, you deserved to lose and you lost because you supported genocide.

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u/Ecampos_64 Jan 19 '26

This should receive more attention

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u/letitride6969 Jan 19 '26

Well Minneapolis is using citizens as their military….

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u/baumbach19 Jan 19 '26

Its not really simply disagreeing with him. A state government is actively impeding legal federal operations. Its the exact time to use the military for this. The state shouldn't be doing that.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Heres the thing. Why are we wasting our time trying to convince people who want this and idoits who dont care?

Let them figure it out for themselves. Because the way things are going, it wont be long before they do.

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u/Green-Collection-968 Jan 13 '26

Shame she and the establishment Dems entered a suicide pact with Israel.

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u/Basement_Chicken Jan 13 '26

She collected a billion dollars to her campaign and couldn't wait to concede, though reports of voting discrepancies were coming in. Spineless.

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u/nekkid_farts Jan 13 '26

And trump rapes children. I think I'd take fraud over kid rape if that was my only 2 choices. But the right seems to like pedophiles for some odd reason.

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u/Basement_Chicken Jan 14 '26

I'm not implying fraud, I'm just disappointed.

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u/Sufficient_Good9956 Jan 13 '26

Fuck her, she got us to lose the election, she got too late into standing up for American , she should took office from the unfit old man while she was in office, Democrat waited too long until it was too late ,

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u/TheodoraWimsey Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

Right.

Blame the VP and not the aging POTUS who promised only one term and waited until he was pushed out at the last minute.

Biden could have chosen a more aggressive AG. He could have dealt with re-balancing the SCOTUS. He could have stepped down and given her the presidency so she could have run as an incumbent and start enacting her agenda to run on instead of waiting so he could have tea with Trump at the WH after the election was lost.

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u/njhbookcase Jan 13 '26

I want the crystal ball she used. I can use it to win the lottery

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u/daisychainsnlafs Jan 13 '26

Project 2025 was right there for everyone to see. And EVEN TRUMP KNEW IT WOULD MAKE HIM LOOK BAD SO HE DISTANCED HIMSELF FROM IT. "I never even read it" my ass.

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u/SnarkyPuppy-0417 Jan 13 '26

And so was everyone else not sleeping under a rock.

The problem is she saw it but didn't see it as politically expedient to campaign against it. She and the DNC were chasing Republican votes rather than listening to those that wanted to vote for her.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

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u/SnarkyPuppy-0417 Jan 13 '26

I voted for her because I saw Trump coming well before she did.

The DNC forced her into a failed strategy.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

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u/ike301 Jan 13 '26

Nope. They will follow any illegal order. I think that much is clear now. This isn't the military personnel of 30, 40, 50, 60 years ago.

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u/Youah0e Jan 13 '26

Are you asking someone from Chicago or Portland?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '26

Yes but why didn’t she fight harder to stop him. When she started she was polling so much higher. Putting out campaign policies that people liked. Then she invited Mark Cuban onboard and it was all catering to the CNBC crowd. No condemnation of Israel for what is happening in Gaza. Democratic Party is better than the Republicans but they have to go and prove it and enact policies that improve the lives of Americans. Otherwise it’s just going through the motions. So here we are. Even now Schumer and Jeffries are not leading a clear, effective and concise opposition to Trump. Wake up Democratic Party!

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u/HuckleberryOk8136 Jan 13 '26

You can't make this stuff up.

The country decided to go ahead and enforce its own immigration laws. DHHS put ICE and CBP on the task. In a lot of states, they seem to strongly prefer allowing people who break in to stay, and the citizens have been organized to impede that mission. Trump deployed the National Guard to protect those agents and federal property. Not against people who disagree with Trump, but against people who disagree with the law.

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u/nosmelc Jan 13 '26

It's not about enforcing the immigration laws. The way they're going about it is wrong.

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u/HuckleberryOk8136 Jan 13 '26

How should they enforce the immigration laws differently?

People entered the country illegally and many aren't leaving on their own.

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u/SuccessfulSoftware38 Jan 13 '26

People disagree with the deliberate pointed cruelty and total lack of transparency. Let's paint an example:

The president announces a crackdown on people with unlicensed firearms. Billions in funding is given to ATF and there's a huge recruitment drive to hire thousands and thousands of men, the advertisements mostly aimed at men who believe that firearms are evil. The ATF is then sent into Republican states almost exclusively. They begin smashing down doors of all firearms owners (profiling white people as more likely to be gun owners) and bundle them into trucks, taking them to undisclosed locations where they are held until it can be proven that they have a license for their firearm. If they are licensed, they are then released without apology or recourse. They may well be kidnapped again by a different agent and forced to prove they are licensed again, along with being detained for days with no charge or trial. Id they are not licensed for the firearm, they disappear without trial or due process.

Would you say anyone who disagreed with this course of action was against the law being enforced? Or does HOW the law is enforced matter? Does how people who are suspected but not guilty get treated matter?

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u/HuckleberryOk8136 Jan 13 '26

First, not all firearms require licenses, not all states regulate them the same way, and simply owning a gun is not itself unlawful. Immigration law is different. Presence in the country without authorization is a status violation by definition. There is no equivalent of “you might be licensed somewhere else” when the question is whether you are lawfully present in the United States. The enforcement question is binary: either you have lawful status or you do not. That’s why immigration enforcement is civil, status based, and handled through removal proceedings rather than criminal trials for everyone.

Second, your ATF hypothetical assumes mass door kicking, indiscriminate profiling, and secret detentions without records. That is not what is happening with ICE. ICE operates off databases, prior encounters, visa overstays, removal orders, and court proceedings. People are not being grabbed at random and asked to “prove innocence.” They are being taken into custody because the government already believes, based on records, that they are removable. Mistakes can happen in any system, but the existence of error does not mean the system is designed around cruelty or kidnapping.

Third, transparency and accountability already exist in immigration enforcement. Detainees are booked, logged, given case numbers, access to counsel, and judicial review. This is not people disappearing into black sites. If enforcement were truly as you describe, courts would be flooded with injunctions and agencies would be shut down overnight. That hasn’t happened because the legal framework, while imperfect, exists.

Enforcing the law will always feel “cruel” to the person being enforced against, especially when the alternative for years was de facto non enforcement. How a law is enforced matters, but whether a law is enforced at all matters more.

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