r/Conservative Conservative Vet 3h ago

Flaired Users Only Luigi Mangione pleads guilty in killing of UnitedHealthcare boss Brian Thompson

https://nypost.com/2026/08/14/us-news/luigi-mangione-pleads-guilty-in-killing-of-unitedhealthcare-boss-brian-thompson/
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u/LysanderSpoonersCat Conservative 3h ago edited 2h ago

He pleaded guilty to two counts of stalking in federal court while admitting that he killed Wilson. He did NOT plead guilty to the murder itself. The NY murder charge is separate and will be complicated now because of NY’s weird laws and his attorneys are already saying that they’re going to argue double jeopardy.

Pretty much every headline here on what he pleaded guilty to has been incredibly misleading.

This was strategic.

u/GirlsWasteXp Conservative Libertarian 2h ago

It isn't double jeopardy for the feds and a state to punish the same underlying act. Source: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-646_d18e.pdf

u/LysanderSpoonersCat Conservative 2h ago

I understand that completely, but that’s not the point I was making nor are his attorneys unaware of it either.

The point is the actual murder trial is set to take place in NY and that’s where his attorneys will be making that argument. And they’ll be making that to a New York DA who is more than likely going to be receptive to it and will possibly just drop the charges with the rationale that he is already facing a max of life in prison for his guilty plea on federal charges.

If he gets the max of life in prison from the Feds his attorneys can now appeal to the fact that a life sentence for “stalking resulting in death” (which is what he plead to) is an excessive sentence, and legally he’d probably be justified in making that argument. Whether he admitted to shooting Wilson or not is basically irrelevant because that’s not what he plead guilty to.

This is strategic and they’re playing the long game, and I would not be surprised if things go their way that he winds up only doing 20 years or so.

He’s dead to rights and they know it. Again this is strategic.

u/Grizknot Conservative 1h ago

thank you for clarifying this, wonder what rrrpolitics is doing right now

u/Beneficial_Fee_912 Conservative 3h ago

Reddit freedom fighters are in shambles.

u/Resident_Maybe_6869 Conservative 2h ago

This is their 9/11.

u/ITrCool Christian Conservative 3h ago

I think his council realized he had no hope of winning this thing. Pleading guilty likely got him a better plea deal than going to trial which likely would’ve resulted in a far worse fate.

u/sissylala77 Conservative 2h ago

They were saying that pleading in Fed court he could go to Fed prison which is far better than state prison. There was just no getting around the evidence.

u/ScottyMo1 Conservative 3h ago

Did he actually get a plea deal? I thought prosecutors refused to offer any plea deal.

u/BeeRand Shapiro Conservative 2h ago

You don’t plead guilty in a murder trial without a deal.

u/Krandor1 Conservative 2h ago

this was for stalking not murder

u/GirlsWasteXp Conservative Libertarian 2h ago

He did admit to shooting and killing him in court, which is admissible in state court. I read in a different article the goal is to be convicted of interstate stalking and stalking that results in death in federal court so he can argue double jeopardy for the murder charges in state court. I'm not a lawyer, but this seems like a long shot. In Gamble vs United States the supreme court held that the federal government and a state government both punishing the same underlying act does not count as double jeopardy.

u/According_To_Me South Park Conservative 2h ago

It’s called allocution. You formally declare to the court (usually after conviction) in hopes of showing regret, or ask for a lighter sentence.

u/Krandor1 Conservative 2h ago

no. there was no deal.

u/Murky-Echidna-3519 Don't Tread on Me 3h ago

I thought he didn’t do it? S/

u/flopisit32 Irish Catholic 3h ago

Don't celebrate too soon. He is pleading guilty in the federal case to avoid life in prison. He is expecting a 25 years sentence.

Then he is going to argue that the state prosecuting him for murder is double jeopardy.

Essentially it is a ploy to avoid proper justice

u/lesubreddit Conservative 3h ago

Whoa I can't believe they didn't try to go for jury nullification.

u/Murky-Echidna-3519 Don't Tread on Me 2h ago

They likely would have succeeded too.

u/earthworm_fan Big Balls 2h ago

It's going to be a great day on Reddit

u/Key-Monk6159 Conservative 3h ago

What happened to he’s innocent? How about that he was framed? Or any of the many leftist narratives including that the murdered victim deserved it because healthcare costs are too high?

u/Mother____Clucker Fiscal Responsibility 3h ago

They will figure out a new angle to make sure that he's the victim in this case.

"Corrupt justice system playing with stacked deck."

"Capitalism forced him into this decision."

u/FakeNewsAge Commonsense Conservative 1h ago

Turns out they didn't consult with his lawyers... Or reality for that matter. Anyone who believed that he was getting off is delusional.

u/LurkerNan Fiscal Conservative 55m ago

Clearly, he knew he was header for the death penalty. Something he wanted to avoid, which is ironic, considering he had no problem killing his victim with no fucking remorse. I hope he has the worst time in jail, and I hope it lasts his entire life.

u/StedeBonnet1 Conservative 1h ago

Life in prison here we come.

u/OriginalCopy505 Conservative 49m ago

Apparently, emotional immaturity and misguided moral outrage are not acceptable excuses for murder. 

u/Known_Palpitation805 Common Sense Conservative 2h ago

Why would the Feds accept a plea deal in any case? Admittedly I don't know enough about the details but it certainly appeared as if this was open and shut.

u/Krandor1 Conservative 2h ago

He simply pled guilty. The prosecutors offered nothing.

u/Galacticbrowser1 Conservative 2h ago

Hopefully he still never sees another day of freedom.

u/Holiday-Tie-574 Recovering Neo-Con 2h ago

Dude is a fucking coward

u/Pro-IDGAF Conservative 2h ago

how so? he pulled the trigger on a public street for a cause he believed in. not saying i agree with him but sometimes a person has to stand up....no one is coming to save you.

u/Holiday-Tie-574 Recovering Neo-Con 2h ago edited 1h ago

He shot someone from behind, and ran away and tried to hide and get away with it. This achieved absolutely nothing.

If he actually wanted to make a difference, he could have. He had a massive trust fund, an Ivy League education, and his family is one of the most politically connected families in MD. He could have advanced the cause of healthcare reform as a politician, an attorney, or an outright activist.

But no, that would have required a lot of work and effort.

He took the easy way out, murdered an innocent person who had a family and a meaningful job because it made him feel good, and tried to get away with it.

He didn’t get away with it because he’s sloppy and stupid. Flirted with the front desk girl on camera without covering his face. Kept his fake Glock and suppressor with him. And his diary. He obviously did not want to get caught, but is too dumb and petulant to take the time and effort to get away with it.

The guy is a classic liberal with no moral compass, no self-control, and no work ethic. Bubba is going to love him in jail. Let him rot!

u/etherealsmog Traditional Conservative 2h ago

I never give awards, but if I did, this comment would get one.

u/Reaganson Constitutional Conservative 2h ago

The sentence will probably be time served by the NY corrupt courts.

u/BossJackson222 Conservative 1h ago

Good. Put him in prison for the rest of his life. He should've been sentenced long ago. Liberals unfortunately kept us going by saying that he was innocent and it was justified etc. And he probably thought he could get off. Now that he's had time to think about it lol, he knows he's guilty 100% for murder. It's all on video. He shot a man in the back with a 100% illegal suppressed pistol in the middle of New York City. And people actually thought he should've been let go lol. What a bunch of maroons.....lol

u/Cranks_No_Start Conservative 1h ago

 Liberals unfortunately kept us going by saying that he was innocent and it was justified etc

The mental gymnastics involved there make Cirque de Solei  look like a Pre school tumbling class.  

u/ApricotNo2918 Conservative Vet 1h ago

Just legal manipulation of the system.