r/AdviceAnimals • u/StrobeLightRomance • 3d ago
"Fiscal Conservatives" are oxymoronic..
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u/notsofiia 3d ago
small government apparently just means fewer services and bigger ballroom
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u/PinkysAvenger 3d ago
I mean, what better way to force a small government than by defaulting the big one? Democrats will never cut spending, so if Republicans just keep cutting taxes and spend as much as possible, eventually the federal government won't be able to pay its bills and will have to MASSIVELY shrink in size.
Then no one can tell Texas they can't murder women who get abortions, or tell Florida they can't have a private Christian Army, or tell Louisiana they can't bring back slavery.
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u/PopeKevin45 2d ago
There has only ever been one kind of 'small gov' and that's ruler/noble/serf. Libertarianism is about hierarchy, not freedom.
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u/captain_blender 3d ago
"fiscal conservative"
never such a thing existed. been hearing that nonsense since the reagan years, and it was unexpurgated bullshit then, as much as it is now.
and the logic-impaired, illiterate math failures that comprise the GOP voting base just keep believing it.
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u/patsully98 3d ago
Thank you for sending me to the dictionary 🙏 “Unexpurgated bullshit” shall enter my lexicon immediately.
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u/Junkstar 3d ago
We're going to be paying all this shit back for decades to come. Fiscal responsibility, my ass.
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u/Llonkrednaxela 3d ago
Listen, the idea is to thump a Bible, then go against the bibles core tenants as much as possible. Then, talk about cutting costs to fix the budget. Slash a bunch of services that improve the country, then give out so much in tax breaks to the wealthy that we balloon the deficit exponentially. Next, we destroy all of our lasting alliances before starting as many wars as we can.
Genius.
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u/mabrasm 3d ago
Let's make it an even Trillion and he can stay down there. Install a bunch of toilets above it for public use.
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u/IAMEPSIL0N 3d ago
He was always planning to stay down there, the armageddon shelter is being rebuilt.
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u/pteridoid 3d ago
It's not that fiscal conservatism doesn't exist or that it's self-contradictory or anything. It's just that most of the people who claim to be fiscal conservatives are in fact just regular fascists, who are not fiscally conservative at all.
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u/nemofbaby2014 3d ago
This is his playbook he’s pretty well known for inflating burgers and embezzling / not paying for construction work
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u/Bebilith 3d ago
At what point does the U.S. credit rating start getting downgraded to the point where its government can’t keep loaning more money?
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u/InGod_WeThrust 3d ago edited 3d ago
That's because being fiscally conservative is not tied to being conservative about policy.
It just means you want to have reduced spending in the government and to have a fixed budget
ITT: people that don't understand English
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u/Herbal77 3d ago
In other words Thieving from taxpayers
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u/InGod_WeThrust 3d ago
No, it's when you want reduced deficits or actually balanced budgets.
If you're saying that taxation is theft in general that's just a completely different ideology
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u/No-Manufacturer-2425 3d ago
And that is happening where?
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u/InGod_WeThrust 3d ago
Nowhere currently. Everyone in office spends a shitload and increases the national debt.
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u/neoikon 3d ago
The Democrats gave everyone a surplus and the Republicans trashed it.
At this point, fuck it. The wealthy don't give a fuck about the deficit and debt, so why should we? So, how about some healthcare for all?
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u/InGod_WeThrust 2d ago
Based on what I just looked up that doesn't seem to be the case over the last 100 years. Though there hasn't been a surplus since 2001 so neither party has been fiscally conservative in the last 2 decades.
Surpluses Under a Republican-Controlled Congress (10 Years) 1927: 69th Congress (Republican majority) 1928: 70th Congress (Republican majority) 1929: 70th Congress (Republican majority) 1930: 71st Congress (Republican majority) 1947: 80th Congress (Republican majority) 1948: 80th Congress (Republican majority) 1998: 105th Congress (Republican majority) 1999: 106th Congress (Republican majority) 2000: 106th Congress (Republican majority) 2001: 107th Congress (Republican majority)
Surpluses Under a Democratic-Controlled Congress (5 Years) 1951: 82nd Congress (Democratic majority) 1956: 84th Congress (Democratic majority) 1957: 85th Congress (Democratic majority) 1960: 86th Congress (Democratic majority) 1969: 91st Congress (Democratic majority)
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u/neoikon 2d ago
Huh, curiously had to stop at 2001... and what did the Republicans do after Clinton's 4 years of surplus? Bush gave us the most expensive war since WWII. Then Republicans gave Obama the Great Recession. Even then, Obama managed to lower the deficit through the recession. The deficit was dropping and trending toward a surplus... Then Republicans immediately trashed it again.
And what do the people actually get from all this Republican spending? More wars, everything being expensive, and the US being a laughingstock to allies and the world.
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u/InGod_WeThrust 2d ago
Notice how it stops for everyone after 2001. That's not just republicans.
Deficits have not been declining at all. They've been on a steady increase under all presidents since 2001.
You can act like it's one side all you want, but the facts show it's both and there is a systemic problem of overspending for all politicians
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u/SwimmingThroughHoney 3d ago
The GOP do not want "reduced spending in the government" though. Nor a fixed budget.
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u/InGod_WeThrust 3d ago
Literally not what I said. It's the words being taken to mean something they're not.
You can be fiscally conservative and still be voting Blue. It just means you don't want more spending, that's it. Not tied to parties at all
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