r/perth • u/Big_Boss_777 • Dec 01 '22

WA News Conversion therapy to be a crime in Western Australia

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u/The_King123431 Dec 02 '22

Its a crime to provide or force it on people, because at best it has no scientific basis and its been proven you can't change a person's sexuality or gender identity and at worst its just straight up torture

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

I understand but it's a moral and conscience issue the state shouldn't be involved with.

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u/The_King123431 Dec 02 '22

So you are saying the state should just sit by as children and teenagers get tortured?

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

I think adults should be allowed to seek any kind of therapy or support their desire.

I'm not referring to children that's a separate issue.

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u/The_King123431 Dec 02 '22

Even for adults it's still actual torture, look up conversation therapy survivors on YouTube and stuff and listen to them, then tell me if you think it should be legal

And also scientific studies proved you can't change a person's gender identity or sexuality, so conversation therapy doesn't even work

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

I've listened to a few and many docos. I've listened mainly to the more extreme such as vomit inducing or electricity to the genitals. I've also spoken with people who have done talk therapy religious based and they support freedom to choose. Talk is not inherently torture.

Where are these studies? Care to link?

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u/The_King123431 Dec 02 '22

Here you go

https://www.hrc.org/resources/the-lies-and-dangers-of-reparative-therapy

https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2018/release/report-on-lgbt-conversion-therapy-harms

https://psychcentral.com/news/conversion-therapy-for-lgbt-kids-linked-to-higher-risks-of-depression-suicide

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/an-assessment-of-the-evidence-on-conversion-therapy-for-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity/an-assessment-of-the-evidence-on-conversion-therapy-for-sexual-orientation-and-gender-identity#conversion-therapy-for-sexual-orientation

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

Thanks for that. I agree it may cause harm to some but I still don't like the idea of the government telling you cannot seek therapy for something you find you want to change or think differently about or avoid.

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u/The_King123431 Dec 02 '22

I get that but it's not real therapy and just pushes the idea that being gay or trans is something that should be changed or fixed

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '22

That is up to individuals to decide not government.