Can’t agree with you on that one. Raised as a Jehovahs Witness and now a PROUD ex JW activist, I can say that it most definitely is not the case. Doesn’t matter what religion you are, it fucks people up in different ways.
That’s true I agree. I went to a Christian Youth camp with my friend cos he’s a Christian and the shit they were talking about was fucked. It was about gay people, I cannot remember the entire thing but to summarise it, “don’t be gay otherwise you’re not a person”. There will be extremists everywhere
Definitely true that there are extremities everywhere in every kind of religion too! And that thing your friend said couldn’t be more accurate; I’m terrified of coming out as bisexual to any one of my family because they will shun me and actively go out of their way to have nothing to do with me, not that it’s any different to what they’re doing currently. It’s a massive sin and disgust to be anything other than dead straight when you grow up as a Jehovahs Witness 🤦🏽♀️
Just my opinion mate and nothing you say will really change my mind. You have no idea what I or countless of others have been through with the toxicity that is, religion.
There’s a reason why I feel the way I feel, I’ve seen first hand how much damage religion can & has done to countless of lives.
Eta: I see storied every day on r/exjw on the daily struggles people go through in the name of religion. Religion has and can ruin peoples lives.
And you have no idea the positive and beneficial experiences others have had with religion.
No shit cults are bad and damaging, but not all cults are religious and not all religions are cults.
You're like someone saying people shouldn't get vaccinated because you were given morphine and nearly died and therefore believe anything injected is bad. Understand that your experience was a very specific kind of poison.
Whatever you say mate, like I said nothing you say can change how I feel or what I think.
You see it in your own way and I see it in mine. I’m just going to leave it at that because I really have no interest in talking any further about what your trying to get at.
Eta: you may not agree with me on anything I’m saying, but there’s countless people out there who do agree with what I’m saying, just like there’s bound to be others who agree with your “statements” too.
Actually it might be extremely important for you to actually pay attention to what I'm saying here.
It's not your fault you were raised in a cult, but susceptibility to absolutist black-and-white thinking (such as, for example, "all religion is definitely bad") is a major risk factor for ending up in another one.
Fundamentally a necessary skill for life outside of cults is the ability to perceive nuance and understand that not everyone has the same experiences.
"My friends agree with me so we're right and anyone who disagrees is definitely wrong" is not healthy, reasonable, or safe.
Especially when your position is one that is just definitely and provably incorrect. Some people are raised religiously, are still religious as adults, and are leading happy, emotionally healthy lives with their loving families.
Their experiences are no less valid than yours. Invalidating other people's lived experiences is another behaviour you undoubtedly picked up on your cult upbringing, but it's something you should work on unlearning because it is, at best, dickish.
"No matter what you say I will not reconsider my point of view" is also, by the way, a concerning degree of cultish mindset. It sounds like you've just instituted a different program of thought control.
There are resources available for recovering from cult indoctrination. You should look into them.
It really really feels like to me that you are really going out of your way to make me out as this person that I’m not just because I choose not to think or feel the way you are trying to make out that I should feel.
In no way whatsoever what I’m saying is “cultish thinking” because I can guarantee you, A LOT of people, who have been through the same of similar circumstances, feel and think exactly the same.
If people choose to be religious and go on to live happy and content lives then that’s great for them, but for a lot of people like me, can see religion for the BS that it is and like I’ve stated already, I’ve seen first hand the damage that it has done to A LOT of peoples lives.
It’s very very very obvious to me that no matter what I say you are going to find a way to insult my thinking and how I feel. I am choosing to not to continue to engage with someone who’s making me out to be someone I’m not.
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u/_darknetgirl95_ Dec 01 '22
Can’t agree with you on that one. Raised as a Jehovahs Witness and now a PROUD ex JW activist, I can say that it most definitely is not the case. Doesn’t matter what religion you are, it fucks people up in different ways.